Gabbylittleangel
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What would Moses need a ship for? He just parts the water and walks through!
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Gabbylittleangel
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Imagican said:
God often speaks to, and through 'nut jobs'.
1Cr 1:27 But God hath chosen the foolish things of the world to confound the wise; and God hath chosen the weak things of the world to confound the things which are mighty;
Lewis W said:
I could either confirm or deny alasdair's post.
I live in Florida.... as do many of the folks that I continuously request prayer for; against; about; because of; and in spite of. Now there is a clue, for those of you who are familiar with my problem people.
There is no doubt in my mind that Florida is under judgement. Eight hurricanes in two years, (four of them came two weeks apart in 2004). Florida has had many prophesies, and I wish I could find the ones that were given a decade or so ago. They basically said to repent or else.
I believe His prophesy to New Orleans was "Enough is enough". I have no reason to believe that He is not going to give a similar word to Florida, if He has not already done so.
Many complacent Christians believe that God will not send judgment on a land where they live, and use Lot as an example. Scripture shows that God sent messengers to tell Lot to get out of town, and Lot obeyed. I pray that if, and when the time comes that God calls His people out they will listen.
Rev 18:4 And I heard another voice from heaven, saying, Come out of her, my people, that ye be not partakers of her sins, and that ye receive not of her plagues.
Something else I have noticed about the story of Lot. All of the bad guys were bundled up together in a convenient location. Anyone ever read an end times verse about what tares that are bundled together?
Gabbylittleangel
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Just thought I would mention again, the earthquake that reportedly occured in the Gulf of Mexico a few weeks ago.
It is also worth a mention that there is a bunch of oil drilling going on around the Gulf coast. I can't help but wonder, :-? what happens if you hit a fault line with a big drill bit?
It is also worth a mention that there is a bunch of oil drilling going on around the Gulf coast. I can't help but wonder, :-? what happens if you hit a fault line with a big drill bit?
Gabbylittleangel
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Just thought I would mention again, the earthquake that reportedly occurred in the Gulf of Mexico a few weeks ago.
It is also worth a mention that there is a bunch of oil drilling going on around the Gulf coast. I can't help but wonder, :-? what happens if you hit a fault line with a big drill bit?
It is also worth a mention that there is a bunch of oil drilling going on around the Gulf coast. I can't help but wonder, :-? what happens if you hit a fault line with a big drill bit?
destiny
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I think more and more we will see God lift His hedge of protection from this nation.
Thats all He has to do is stop protecting us and leave us subject to the elements, and the whims of a few tyrant rulers who would like nothing better than to see our destruction.
I feel the whole world is subject to God ...nothing gets past Him, and if nothing gets past Him then why did He allow what happened in New Orleans or the World Trade Center when He could have easily prevented it?
Where was His protection? A better question is, 'why didn't He intervene when He could have'?
Has our wickedness tested His patience? I feel He has been warning us and we aren't listening.
Thats all He has to do is stop protecting us and leave us subject to the elements, and the whims of a few tyrant rulers who would like nothing better than to see our destruction.
I feel the whole world is subject to God ...nothing gets past Him, and if nothing gets past Him then why did He allow what happened in New Orleans or the World Trade Center when He could have easily prevented it?
Where was His protection? A better question is, 'why didn't He intervene when He could have'?
Has our wickedness tested His patience? I feel He has been warning us and we aren't listening.
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I revisted the Book of Revelation today and was looking at the Church of Philedelphia and wondered why this church did not receive rebuke from Jesus. Then it hit me. This Church is a Bible based Church. So many have gotten away from the Bible that they don't know anymore than than the the man in the moon does.
So what is the problem? The loony left political party headed by guys like Ted Kennedy, whose father was involved with the Mafia. They say they are for the poor, but make people even poorer. They think that Abortion is fine. They want same-sex marriage. They want separation of church and state. They approve of teaching Evolution in schools. Need I say more. But all this must happen. The Liberals will probably take over the House and Senate, and be ready for more storms, earthquakes, and Terror attacks, and probably a Nuclear Attack.
God will not put up with an ungodly nation. The birth pains will become more severe. Anyway, this is how I see it. Alarming, isn't it. We need to be guided by the Word of God more than ever.
May God bless, golfjack
I revisted the Book of Revelation today and was looking at the Church of Philedelphia and wondered why this church did not receive rebuke from Jesus. Then it hit me. This Church is a Bible based Church. So many have gotten away from the Bible that they don't know anymore than than the the man in the moon does.
So what is the problem? The loony left political party headed by guys like Ted Kennedy, whose father was involved with the Mafia. They say they are for the poor, but make people even poorer. They think that Abortion is fine. They want same-sex marriage. They want separation of church and state. They approve of teaching Evolution in schools. Need I say more. But all this must happen. The Liberals will probably take over the House and Senate, and be ready for more storms, earthquakes, and Terror attacks, and probably a Nuclear Attack.
God will not put up with an ungodly nation. The birth pains will become more severe. Anyway, this is how I see it. Alarming, isn't it. We need to be guided by the Word of God more than ever.
May God bless, golfjack
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alasdair said:
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alasdair
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Thanks for your comments! Jesus = God, God = Jesus. One of the teachings of Jesus was his death on the cross. He did that to show that those who are innocent of sin die because of the sins of the guilty (the wages of sin is death). Our modern day sin bearers are mostly the 2.5 billion people living on less than $2 a day - these are the people who Jesus came to represent.
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MrVersatile48
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Just time to link verdict on both Alasdair threads:-
http://www.christianforums.net/viewtopi ... 911#296911
Ian
http://www.christianforums.net/viewtopi ... 911#296911
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MrVersatile48
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Sorry I ran out of time on Sunday
Must correct the convoluted number-crunching @ 2039 too
Jesus said, 'No-one knows the day or the hour - not the Son - but the Father only' (when He will return)
But He & OT prophets pinpoint this climax generation of all history as starting with the rebirth of Israel after global scattering of Jews - see Matt 24 Jeremiah 31 & Ezekiel 36 etc - that was fulfilled in May 1948
A Bible generation is no more than 70 years, but we don't have that long
Jesus said this generation will be cut short - by the instant airlift Rapture rescue of all who love Him - as in Matt 24:30-31 & 1 Corinthians 15:51-58 & 1 Thessalonians 4:13-5:11 etc
Also, note how Jesus replied when His friends asked what signs would show the end to be near, in Matt 24
Matthew 24 (New International Version)
Signs of the End of the Age
1Jesus left the temple and was walking away when his disciples came up to him to call his attention to its buildings. 2"Do you see all these things?" he asked. "I tell you the truth, not one stone here will be left on another; every one will be thrown down."
3As Jesus was sitting on the Mount of Olives, the disciples came to him privately. "Tell us," they said, "when will this happen, and what will be the sign of your coming and of the end of the age?"
4Jesus answered: "Watch out that no one deceives you. 5For many will come in my name, claiming, 'I am the Christ,[a]' and will deceive many.
6You will hear of wars and rumors of wars, but see to it that you are not alarmed. Such things must happen, but the end is still to come. 7Nation will rise against nation, and kingdom against kingdom. There will be famines and earthquakes in various places. 8All these are the beginning of birth pains.
9"Then you will be handed over to be persecuted and put to death, and you will be hated by all nations because of me.
10At that time many will turn away from the faith and will betray and hate each other, 11and many false prophets will appear and deceive many people.
12Because of the increase of wickedness, the love of most will grow cold,
13but he who stands firm to the end will be saved. 14And this gospel of the kingdom will be preached in the whole world as a testimony to all nations, and then the end will come.
15"So when you see standing in the holy place 'the abomination that causes desolation,' spoken of through the prophet Danielâ€â€let the reader understand 16then let those who are in Judea flee to the mountains. 17Let no one on the roof of his house go down to take anything out of the house. 18Let no one in the field go back to get his cloak.
19How dreadful it will be in those days for pregnant women and nursing mothers! 20Pray that your flight will not take place in winter or on the Sabbath.
21For then there will be great distress, unequaled from the beginning of the world until nowâ€â€and never to be equaled again.
22If those days had not been cut short, no one would survive, but for the sake of the elect those days will be shortened.
23At that time if anyone says to you, 'Look, here is the Christ!' or, 'There he is!' do not believe it.
24For false Christs and false prophets will appear and perform great signs and miracles to deceive even the electâ€â€if that were possible. 25See, I have told you ahead of time.
26"So if anyone tells you, 'There he is, out in the desert,' do not go out; or, 'Here he is, in the inner rooms,' do not believe it.
27For as lightning that comes from the east is visible even in the west, so will be the coming of the Son of Man.
28Wherever there is a carcass, there the vultures will gather.
29"Immediately after the distress of those days
" 'the sun will be darkened,
and the moon will not give its light;
the stars will fall from the sky,
and the heavenly bodies will be shaken.'[c]
30"At that time the sign of the Son of Man will appear in the sky, and all the nations of the earth will mourn. They will see the Son of Man coming on the clouds of the sky, with power and great glory. 31And he will send his angels with a loud trumpet call, and they will gather his elect from the four winds, from one end of the heavens to the other.
32"Now learn this lesson from the fig tree: As soon as its twigs get tender and its leaves come out, you know that summer is near.
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The fig tree was used several times in the Bible as a symbol of Israel, just as the cedars of Lebanon
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33Even so, when you see all these things, you know that it[d]is near, right at the door. 34I tell you the truth, this generation[e] will certainly not pass away until all these things have happened. 35Heaven and earth will pass away, but my words will never pass away.
The Day and Hour Unknown
36"No one knows about that day or hour, not even the angels in heaven, nor the Son,[f] but only the Father.
37As it was in the days of Noah, so it will be at the coming of the Son of Man. 38For in the days before the flood, people were eating and drinking, marrying and giving in marriage, up to the day Noah entered the ark; 39and they knew nothing about what would happen until the flood came and took them all away. That is how it will be at the coming of the Son of Man.
40Two men will be in the field; one will be taken and the other left. 41Two women will be grinding with a hand mill; one will be taken and the other left.
42"Therefore keep watch, because you do not know on what day your Lord will come.
43But understand this: If the owner of the house had known at what time of night the thief was coming, he would have kept watch and would not have let his house be broken into. 44So you also must be ready, because the Son of Man will come at an hour when you do not expect him.
45"Who then is the faithful and wise servant, whom the master has put in charge of the servants in his household to give them their food at the proper time? 46It will be good for that servant whose master finds him doing so when he returns. 47I tell you the truth, he will put him in charge of all his possessions.
48But suppose that servant is wicked and says to himself, 'My master is staying away a long time,' 49and he then begins to beat his fellow servants and to eat and drink with drunkards.
50The master of that servant will come on a day when he does not expect him and at an hour he is not aware of. 51He will cut him to pieces and assign him a place with the hypocrites, where there will be weeping and gnashing of teeth.
He forecast all kinds of disasters - natural, social & spiritual - intensifying & accelerating like birthpains, to bring on that Great Delivery
We are not yet in the Great Tribulation because Revelation 6:8 says 25% of mankind die thru wars, famines, earthquakes & by the wild beasts of Earth
Nor is that total Armageddon, for Rev 9:15-18 says a third of mankind die by war begun @ R Euphrates, so Revelation prophesies the classic escalation pattern
Rev 6:8 is like 500 times 9/11 & Armageddon is like 2000+ times, as there are @ 6.5 billion folk on Earth: as 2 Peter 3 says, Earth is reserved for destruction by fire
"NOW is the day of salvation"
Don't miss the Rapture: don't be left behind to face the worst time on Earth
The Coming of the Lord
13Brothers, we do not want you to be ignorant about those who fall asleep, or to grieve like the rest of men, who have no hope. 14We believe that Jesus died and rose again and so we believe that God will bring with Jesus those who have fallen asleep in him.
15According to the Lord's own word, we tell you that we who are still alive, who are left till the coming of the Lord, will certainly not precede those who have fallen asleep.
16For the Lord himself will come down from heaven, with a loud command, with the voice of the archangel and with the trumpet call of God, and the dead in Christ will rise first. 17After that, we who are still alive and are left will be caught up together with them in the clouds to meet the Lord in the air. And so we will be with the Lord forever. 18Therefore encourage each other with these words.
1 Thessalonians 5 (New International Version)
1Now, brothers, about times and dates we do not need to write to you, 2for you know very well that the day of the Lord will come like a thief in the night. 3While people are saying, "Peace and safety," destruction will come on them suddenly, as labor pains on a pregnant woman, and they will not escape.
4But you, brothers, are not in darkness so that this day should surprise you like a thief. 5You are all sons of the light and sons of the day. We do not belong to the night or to the darkness. 6So then, let us not be like others, who are asleep, but let us be alert and self-controlled.
7For those who sleep, sleep at night, and those who get drunk, get drunk at night. 8But since we belong to the day, let us be self-controlled, putting on faith and love as a breastplate, and the hope of salvation as a helmet.
9For God did not appoint us to suffer wrath but to receive salvation through our Lord Jesus Christ. 10He died for us so that, whether we are awake or asleep, we may live together with him. 11Therefore encourage one another and build each other up, just as in fact you are doing.
Pass it on to all you love & care about: tell even your enemies
God bless!
Ian
Must correct the convoluted number-crunching @ 2039 too
Jesus said, 'No-one knows the day or the hour - not the Son - but the Father only' (when He will return)
But He & OT prophets pinpoint this climax generation of all history as starting with the rebirth of Israel after global scattering of Jews - see Matt 24 Jeremiah 31 & Ezekiel 36 etc - that was fulfilled in May 1948
A Bible generation is no more than 70 years, but we don't have that long
Jesus said this generation will be cut short - by the instant airlift Rapture rescue of all who love Him - as in Matt 24:30-31 & 1 Corinthians 15:51-58 & 1 Thessalonians 4:13-5:11 etc
Also, note how Jesus replied when His friends asked what signs would show the end to be near, in Matt 24
Matthew 24 (New International Version)
Signs of the End of the Age
1Jesus left the temple and was walking away when his disciples came up to him to call his attention to its buildings. 2"Do you see all these things?" he asked. "I tell you the truth, not one stone here will be left on another; every one will be thrown down."
3As Jesus was sitting on the Mount of Olives, the disciples came to him privately. "Tell us," they said, "when will this happen, and what will be the sign of your coming and of the end of the age?"
4Jesus answered: "Watch out that no one deceives you. 5For many will come in my name, claiming, 'I am the Christ,[a]' and will deceive many.
6You will hear of wars and rumors of wars, but see to it that you are not alarmed. Such things must happen, but the end is still to come. 7Nation will rise against nation, and kingdom against kingdom. There will be famines and earthquakes in various places. 8All these are the beginning of birth pains.
9"Then you will be handed over to be persecuted and put to death, and you will be hated by all nations because of me.
10At that time many will turn away from the faith and will betray and hate each other, 11and many false prophets will appear and deceive many people.
12Because of the increase of wickedness, the love of most will grow cold,
13but he who stands firm to the end will be saved. 14And this gospel of the kingdom will be preached in the whole world as a testimony to all nations, and then the end will come.
15"So when you see standing in the holy place 'the abomination that causes desolation,' spoken of through the prophet Danielâ€â€let the reader understand 16then let those who are in Judea flee to the mountains. 17Let no one on the roof of his house go down to take anything out of the house. 18Let no one in the field go back to get his cloak.
19How dreadful it will be in those days for pregnant women and nursing mothers! 20Pray that your flight will not take place in winter or on the Sabbath.
21For then there will be great distress, unequaled from the beginning of the world until nowâ€â€and never to be equaled again.
22If those days had not been cut short, no one would survive, but for the sake of the elect those days will be shortened.
23At that time if anyone says to you, 'Look, here is the Christ!' or, 'There he is!' do not believe it.
24For false Christs and false prophets will appear and perform great signs and miracles to deceive even the electâ€â€if that were possible. 25See, I have told you ahead of time.
26"So if anyone tells you, 'There he is, out in the desert,' do not go out; or, 'Here he is, in the inner rooms,' do not believe it.
27For as lightning that comes from the east is visible even in the west, so will be the coming of the Son of Man.
28Wherever there is a carcass, there the vultures will gather.
29"Immediately after the distress of those days
" 'the sun will be darkened,
and the moon will not give its light;
the stars will fall from the sky,
and the heavenly bodies will be shaken.'[c]
30"At that time the sign of the Son of Man will appear in the sky, and all the nations of the earth will mourn. They will see the Son of Man coming on the clouds of the sky, with power and great glory. 31And he will send his angels with a loud trumpet call, and they will gather his elect from the four winds, from one end of the heavens to the other.
32"Now learn this lesson from the fig tree: As soon as its twigs get tender and its leaves come out, you know that summer is near.
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The fig tree was used several times in the Bible as a symbol of Israel, just as the cedars of Lebanon
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33Even so, when you see all these things, you know that it[d]is near, right at the door. 34I tell you the truth, this generation[e] will certainly not pass away until all these things have happened. 35Heaven and earth will pass away, but my words will never pass away.
The Day and Hour Unknown
36"No one knows about that day or hour, not even the angels in heaven, nor the Son,[f] but only the Father.
37As it was in the days of Noah, so it will be at the coming of the Son of Man. 38For in the days before the flood, people were eating and drinking, marrying and giving in marriage, up to the day Noah entered the ark; 39and they knew nothing about what would happen until the flood came and took them all away. That is how it will be at the coming of the Son of Man.
40Two men will be in the field; one will be taken and the other left. 41Two women will be grinding with a hand mill; one will be taken and the other left.
42"Therefore keep watch, because you do not know on what day your Lord will come.
43But understand this: If the owner of the house had known at what time of night the thief was coming, he would have kept watch and would not have let his house be broken into. 44So you also must be ready, because the Son of Man will come at an hour when you do not expect him.
45"Who then is the faithful and wise servant, whom the master has put in charge of the servants in his household to give them their food at the proper time? 46It will be good for that servant whose master finds him doing so when he returns. 47I tell you the truth, he will put him in charge of all his possessions.
48But suppose that servant is wicked and says to himself, 'My master is staying away a long time,' 49and he then begins to beat his fellow servants and to eat and drink with drunkards.
50The master of that servant will come on a day when he does not expect him and at an hour he is not aware of. 51He will cut him to pieces and assign him a place with the hypocrites, where there will be weeping and gnashing of teeth.
He forecast all kinds of disasters - natural, social & spiritual - intensifying & accelerating like birthpains, to bring on that Great Delivery
We are not yet in the Great Tribulation because Revelation 6:8 says 25% of mankind die thru wars, famines, earthquakes & by the wild beasts of Earth
Nor is that total Armageddon, for Rev 9:15-18 says a third of mankind die by war begun @ R Euphrates, so Revelation prophesies the classic escalation pattern
Rev 6:8 is like 500 times 9/11 & Armageddon is like 2000+ times, as there are @ 6.5 billion folk on Earth: as 2 Peter 3 says, Earth is reserved for destruction by fire
"NOW is the day of salvation"
Don't miss the Rapture: don't be left behind to face the worst time on Earth
The Coming of the Lord
13Brothers, we do not want you to be ignorant about those who fall asleep, or to grieve like the rest of men, who have no hope. 14We believe that Jesus died and rose again and so we believe that God will bring with Jesus those who have fallen asleep in him.
15According to the Lord's own word, we tell you that we who are still alive, who are left till the coming of the Lord, will certainly not precede those who have fallen asleep.
16For the Lord himself will come down from heaven, with a loud command, with the voice of the archangel and with the trumpet call of God, and the dead in Christ will rise first. 17After that, we who are still alive and are left will be caught up together with them in the clouds to meet the Lord in the air. And so we will be with the Lord forever. 18Therefore encourage each other with these words.
1 Thessalonians 5 (New International Version)
1Now, brothers, about times and dates we do not need to write to you, 2for you know very well that the day of the Lord will come like a thief in the night. 3While people are saying, "Peace and safety," destruction will come on them suddenly, as labor pains on a pregnant woman, and they will not escape.
4But you, brothers, are not in darkness so that this day should surprise you like a thief. 5You are all sons of the light and sons of the day. We do not belong to the night or to the darkness. 6So then, let us not be like others, who are asleep, but let us be alert and self-controlled.
7For those who sleep, sleep at night, and those who get drunk, get drunk at night. 8But since we belong to the day, let us be self-controlled, putting on faith and love as a breastplate, and the hope of salvation as a helmet.
9For God did not appoint us to suffer wrath but to receive salvation through our Lord Jesus Christ. 10He died for us so that, whether we are awake or asleep, we may live together with him. 11Therefore encourage one another and build each other up, just as in fact you are doing.
Pass it on to all you love & care about: tell even your enemies
God bless!
Ian
Vic C.
Member
Someone's been doing too much "cloud-watching".alasdair said:
This is no more than speculation and doesn't reflect collected scientific data.
La Palma Tsunami, The mega-hyped tidal wave story - Canary Islands
La Palma Tsunami, The BBC Horizon program claimed that La Palma, Canary Islands, landslide will cause a mega-tsunami tidal wave. This is not true true.
http://www.lapalma-tsunami.com/tsunami.html
http://www.lapalma-tsunami.com/
This is not true at all, but you decide for yourself:
http://www.floridacdc.org/infofax/020826.htm
...and?
Here is the verse(s) in question: (litv)
Revelation 8
8 And the second angel trumpeted. And as a great mountain burning with fire was thrown into the sea. And the third part of the sea became blood;
9 and the third part of the creatures having souls died in the sea; and the third part of the ships was destroyed.
It says a third part... Florida does not represent a third part of anything.
You've got to be joking, but I think you're not. Does anyone agree that the word Sinabang may mean something totally different in their native language? Is God now giving revelation in English only? Geesh. What's next? I think it's sad that people view these terrorists attacks, hurricaines and floods as God's wrath; God's wrath hasn't begun yet. Plus God promised not to destroy by water flooding again:
Gen 9:15 And I will remember my covenant, which is between me and you and every living creature of all flesh; and the waters shall no more become a flood to destroy all flesh.
Gen 9:16 And the bow shall be in the cloud; and I will look upon it, that I may remember the everlasting covenant between God and every living creature of all flesh that is upon the earth.
No. 8-)Lewis W said:
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Solo
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What a nutcase!! :o But it doesn't surprise me that Imagican was influenced. :D
Vic C.
Member
Me... I was a bit surprised. :oSolo said:
MEC, why did you now decide to throw out that usual rational-minded approach you take with issues like this? Did you weigh any of this against prophetic scripture? Does anyone here believe God's wrath will be poured out on any land before believers are protected or taken out of the way?
destiny
Member
I believe that when a country turns it's back on God....Outright kicks Him out of the public arena in the name of 'sensitivity'and 'tolerance', murders unborn babies by the thousands daily, and whose churches are falling to apostasy and giving way to homosexual leadership and humanism at an alarmig rate; ....is subject to the judgment of God.
We are the ones who forfeit blessing for curse at a national level.
Too me, it's just a matter of what was once under blessing is now under a curse; God will simply stop blessing us and allow us to see what its like without his favor.
I believe that means seeing more things like katrina and 9/11.
Through any national tragedy that might happen, God is still able to keep those who love Him, as Psalm 91 tells us.
I don't think of the things coming to the earth right now as wrath, not yet.
I believe the saints will be removed before that happens.
I believe the things that are coming at this time will serve to purge the church of sin and worldliness, and are warnings of the wrath that is to come.
I believe ther are always consequences directly related to how a nation responds to God.
As far as the prophecy about Florida, I thought it sounded a bit flakey in some parts, but I hate to scoff at it given the sinful condition of America.
2 Chron 7:14 gives us the remedy, but I really don't believe that will happen here in America, not without something causing Gods people to fall on their faces first.
We are the ones who forfeit blessing for curse at a national level.
Too me, it's just a matter of what was once under blessing is now under a curse; God will simply stop blessing us and allow us to see what its like without his favor.
I believe that means seeing more things like katrina and 9/11.
Through any national tragedy that might happen, God is still able to keep those who love Him, as Psalm 91 tells us.
I don't think of the things coming to the earth right now as wrath, not yet.
I believe the saints will be removed before that happens.
I believe the things that are coming at this time will serve to purge the church of sin and worldliness, and are warnings of the wrath that is to come.
I believe ther are always consequences directly related to how a nation responds to God.
As far as the prophecy about Florida, I thought it sounded a bit flakey in some parts, but I hate to scoff at it given the sinful condition of America.
2 Chron 7:14 gives us the remedy, but I really don't believe that will happen here in America, not without something causing Gods people to fall on their faces first.
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Solo
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I fully agree with you, and thank you so much for not claiming to be an archangel!!!!! :odestiny said: