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Prophets of Jesus time vs Prophets of 21st Century

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Is it even possible to compare these two?
Were peter, paul and them more in tune with God than us?
Did their message hit home more than ours?
 
In the sense of the kind of prophets the apostles were, I believe that, not only is there no comparison, I believe there is no comparison because prophets of that kind no longer exist, and haven't since the canon was closed in 96 AD. There is no new prophetic utterance, because God has said to us corporately all He needed or wanted to say. That is not to say that we cannot have specific personal revelation revealed to us, but it doesn't require a "great prophet" to do so. Mine come to me in moments of meditation and prayer.
 
In the sense of the kind of prophets the apostles were, I believe that, not only is there no comparison, I believe there is no comparison because prophets of that kind no longer exist, and haven't since the canon was closed in 96 AD. There is no new prophetic utterance, because God has said to us corporately all He needed or wanted to say. That is not to say that we cannot have specific personal revelation revealed to us, but it doesn't require a "great prophet" to do so. Mine come to me in moments of meditation and prayer.

I like what you said here, even though it is rather sad but still, beautiful sir. This makes sense because the Bible has already been written. What does God expect of his prophets now in this new century? Blessings.
 
Paul spent half of his life in jail, was ship wrecked multiple times, was tortured multiple times, and traveled into hostile regions. Regions that severely rejected Christianity.

Let's put this into modern comparison, and see if you can find a Christian that you know that does this. Get on a plane, and travel to the middle east. Go to the most hostile regions, stand on the street, and preach the gospel. After you are tortured many times and released, turn around and do it again. (rinse and repeat until death)

Can you think of a modern Christian like that? Most Christians huddle in their churches, only preaching in places that welcome them. You don't go where you are wanted, you go where you are NEEDED! Paul and Peter understood this, but they also had it different. Some of these Prophets saw Jesus himself, which may have been the inspiration to do such "brave" things.

I will be the first to admit, that I am one of those Christians who goes where they are wanted, not necessarily needed. I can admit that I don't have the courage of Paul or Peter. But that could also be because I have never physically seen Jesus. Maybe I would be different if I had.
 
not that many of the present believers cannot be true Saints like the 12 apostles, but the problem till now was in the mass apostasy through the world tendency/tradition of (the) human(666) spirituality/religion, because how it was/is easy for the believers to be good people just direct exhorting each other on benignity in the true God and Jesus, but how many of them chose to pamper things like: misbeliefs, idols, idolatries, satanism, flippancy, drool, malice, haughtiness, envy, jealousy, contempt, avarice/rapacity, self-interest, strife, rivalry, judgments, revenge, slanders, curses, violations, defilements, abuses, embezzlement, oppression, supremacy, unforgiveness, etc., they were able to work only for the overall salvation in God and Jesus, but preferred the perdition and found spiritual teachers/leaders after the lusts of their own hearts

Blessings
 
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First off, the age of prophets being dominate ended with John the Baptist. Jesus said he was the greatest prophet up to that point. What's funny is that he didn't prophecy more than Isaiah or Jeremiah. Those two and many more had more prophecies. It was John's message that made him greater. His prophecy (John's) was that Jesus was coming and soon. Isaiah prophecised the Jesus was coming too. But John's was more to the point and more to the hour.

We cannot allow ourselves to be confused by the difference between Apostles and Prophets either. Paul, Peter and John all has prophecies, but they held a higher office. They were apostles. Such can give prophecies. But because they were ambassadors for Jesus, they could "ad lib" (for lack of a better term) and still speak in Jesus' stead. Prophets only could speak what God told them. Do you see the difference? The difference is that while both are annointed by God, the Apostles had more lee-way. God left it up to them -- under the guidance of the Holy Spirit -- to speak in Christ's stead. They could determine what to teach (remember Paul said many times that he spoke by "permission")

In Jesus' day, prophets still should've been listened to. Jesus, Paul, Peter, John all had prophetic messages and that means messages about the future events. But they were also apostles. The difference is that a prophet will tell you what's coming, and an apostle will tell you what it means and the best way to react to it. Prophet's do that a little, but the office of an apostle is more explicit. John the Baptist gave directions: Repent! The Apostles explained how to repent and how to go on after it.

But we have to realize something. Paul, Jesus, Peter and John all described in one way or another that something greater was coming. Jesus said "greater shall these [miracles] shall ye do. Paul said that the holy men of old desired to look into the latter day. Peter said be established in the present truth (which is always changing). John no doubt saw today and beyond.

What's my point? Today's preacher, Apostle, minister.... Whatever, has a greater responsiblity and a greater power than those of Jesus' day. Honestly, I can't wrap my brain around any greater prophecy than what John the Baptist said.... "Jesus is coming!" Actually, I can. Because Jesus came and he's still here! He's just in a body of many. Just like Paul said. And if Jesus was right, it's more powerful.

John, Peter, Paul.... They went out into the wilderness not knowing what each other wrote fully. If history is correct, Paul and Peter died some 30 years before John finished preaching. Furthermore, it's doubtful that any of these men knew what the other was preaching at the time. That is why I know it was ordained by God, because without them knowing, their message lines up. But just imagine is Paul had instant access to what Peter was telling his congregation! Just imagine in each of these men had access to the Bible!

That's why we live in a greater day. Even Martin Luther who I believe to be a great man of God, didn't have the resources and access to the Truth like we do.

Yet, while Jesus said there was no greater Prophet that John, I understand that it's all circumstancial. In reality, Isaiah was better. He had more and he knew Christ was coming. But John had a more sure understanding. That's what made him greater than Isaiah.

Today, we have prophets. Some of them may even be annointed by God, but many of them are false. Just like in the days of Isaiah and even Jesus. But there also true prophets today. What makes us better (Not saying overall we are, but rather what we have in our favor) is a more true WORD of prophecy. We got the Bible! And Adam, Seth, Enoch, Noah, Abraham, Isaac, Jacob, Levi, Judah, Joseph, Moses, David, Solomon, Elisha, Isaiah, Jeremiah, Daniel, John the Baptist, Jesus, John, Peter and Paul are all looking on us to see what we are going to do with their work and labor!

So today, the stakes are greater and the men who carry the Word are greater. Not better. Not more important, just that it's more critical in this day. It was utmost importance back then, and I suppose it is of utmost importance now. Just as they had to get it right, we do too.
 
I like what you said here, even though it is rather sad but still, beautiful sir. This makes sense because the Bible has already been written. What does God expect of his prophets now in this new century? Blessings.
I believe the "prophets" of this age are to "forthtell" (the meaning of the Greek prophetes) God's truth as He gave us in His word. I think of Billy Graham, Chuck Swindoll, David Jeremiah, Tony Evans, Charles and Andy Stanley, Ravi Zacharias, and others too numerous to mention, as being the great prophets of today, in that sense of the word. They "forthtell", or preach, with certainly and truth, the word of God. Our own pastors do the same. I have a great pastor who does an outstanding job of accurately dividing the word and making it come alive for us every Sunday. The pastors and teachers of today uphold the tradition of the prophets by putting forth the word with love, accuracy and blessing.
 
Coffin - Body
Mummy - Mind/Spirit/Soul
Secure Lock - Inheritance in Heaven

Take a picture of any mummy inside a coffin with a secure lock. Ok, now say your living in sin and walking this earth. What's inside your body? Your mind/spirit/soul! The mummy that's inside your body is your mind/spirit/soul dead to God and alive in sin. Well, when we believe that Jesus is our Lord and Savior, God the Father fills up the coffin/our body with his Holy Spirit and his Word until redemption/death. The tables are now reversed. You are now alive in God and dead to sin. The secure lock that God is using is the promise of our inheritance in Heaven. The coffin is your body and God is the one that's putting the lock on the coffin. The mummy that's inside the coffin is no longer a mummy. Your mind/spirit/soul are now alive in God! God the Father fills the inside of the coffin/your body with the Holy Spirit and his Word! in which these things are now eternal! This is the good news and the gift of salvation!!

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Paul spent half of his life in jail, was ship wrecked multiple times, was tortured multiple times, and traveled into hostile regions. Regions that severely rejected Christianity.

Let's put this into modern comparison, and see if you can find a Christian that you know that does this. Get on a plane, and travel to the middle east. Go to the most hostile regions, stand on the street, and preach the gospel. After you are tortured many times and released, turn around and do it again. (rinse and repeat until death)

Can you think of a modern Christian like that? Most Christians huddle in their churches, only preaching in places that welcome them. You don't go where you are wanted, you go where you are NEEDED! Paul and Peter understood this, but they also had it different. Some of these Prophets saw Jesus himself, which may have been the inspiration to do such "brave" things.

I will be the first to admit, that I am one of those Christians who goes where they are wanted, not necessarily needed. I can admit that I don't have the courage of Paul or Peter. But that could also be because I have never physically seen Jesus. Maybe I would be different if I had.

There are many Christians I know personally around the world that are being tortured, thrown in prison and even put to death as Paul was for speaking the word of God. We might not see this here in America as of yet, but for a surety a time is coming. Are we more concerned of what the world will do to us, or should we be more concerned that we have picked up our cross to follow in the footsteps of Christ giving no concern for ourselves, but trusting God in all things of our journey. I truly do not believe in modern day prophets as God has already spoken to us by His prophets everything He is ever going to say for it is finished in God being Alpha and Omega. We are called to be disciples of Christ as the 12 were and to take this world out into the world as commissioned by Christ in Matthew 28:18-20.

duari91, you only fear the unknown as you have seen Christ and know the mind of Christ if you are truly in Him. If you have not seen Christ then you have no persoanl relationship with him.

Matthew 5:15 Neither do men light a candle, and put it under a bushel, but on a candlestick; and it giveth light unto all that are in the house.

John 15:18 If the world hate you, ye know that it hated me before it hated you.

John 16:33 These things I have spoken unto you, that in me ye might have peace. In the world ye shall have tribulation: but be of good cheer; I have overcome the world.
 
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I think the verse you quote, John 16.33, is good to remember. (Seems to me that this is different from the great tribulation mentioned in Matthew 24.21).

Blessings.
 
this: I think this a great explanation about foretelling (as with prophets before the Bible was complete) and forthtelling, as in those who now proclaim the Word. Blessings.
 
There are many Christians I know personally around the world that are being tortured, thrown in prison and even put to death as Paul was for speaking the word of God. We might not see this here in America as of yet, but for a surety a time is coming. Are we more concerned of what the world will do to us, or should we be more concerned that we have picked up our cross to follow in the footsteps of Christ giving no concern for ourselves, but trusting God in all things of our journey. I truly do not believe in modern day prophets as God has already spoken to us by His prophets everything He is ever going to say for it is finished in God being Alpha and Omega. We are called to be disciples of Christ as the 12 were and to take this world out into the world as commissioned by Christ in Matthew 28:18-20.

duari91, you only fear the unknown as you have seen Christ and know the mind of Christ if you are truly in Him. If you have not seen Christ then you have no persoanl relationship with him.

Matthew 5:15 Neither do men light a candle, and put it under a bushel, but on a candlestick; and it giveth light unto all that are in the house.

John 15:18 If the world hate you, ye know that it hated me before it hated you.

John 16:33 These things I have spoken unto you, that in me ye might have peace. In the world ye shall have tribulation: but be of good cheer; I have overcome the world.

I am familiar with those verses. I am also familiar with the fact that there may be people who are born and raised in the danger zones. However; how many Christians do you know who leave the safety of their church, and travel to these danger zones. Places like China, Iran, and Egypt?

Of course, I would wan't to request some sources, because there are no documented prophets in those areas (in modern day). The prophets Jesus spoke of are not of this day. Nearly no Christian who lives outside of the danger zone is following the commands of Jesus.

Just something to think about.
 
I am familiar with those verses. I am also familiar with the fact that there may be people who are born and raised in the danger zones. However; how many Christians do you know who leave the safety of their church, and travel to these danger zones. Places like China, Iran, and Egypt?

Of course, I would wan't to request some sources, because there are no documented prophets in those areas (in modern day). The prophets Jesus spoke of are not of this day. Nearly no Christian who lives outside of the danger zone is following the commands of Jesus.

Just something to think about.

There are thousands who have left the comforts as you call it of their Church to travel all over the world to proclaim the name of Christ in areas like China, Iran, Egypt, India, Africa, Turkey, Pakistan etc. that have found themselves in in all various type of war zones from the military to drug wars to black market slavery. How can you be blind to that. Have you never heard of the term Missionaries. I could give you many horror stories that my friends have told me about their time in such places and I have known some that were even killed for their testimony and witness of Christ. They are not prophets, but servants of God as there are no prophets after that of Christ. Anyone who has come to Christ is a servant just as Jesus was Gods servant while here on Earth to the people and if we are not also servants of God then we are not of God. Not every work we are left to carry on means to go to other countries, but to also be a servant in our own backyard as the Lord leads us and works through us.
 
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