public schools in america

[jasoncran]

yes, but the church did educate the kids then.

enough with the history lessons.

trust me i have no love for the goverment schools. they used to be safe for the believer to drop his or her kids and for the parents didnt have to worry that their values being undermined by the system. :verysad Now, this surely isnt the case, for there's its ok to be all manner of things save a christain and actually beleive the bible.

i miss those days when prayer was recited or just a moment of silence(usually the case) and the ten commandment were posted. and thanksgiving was considered a day to remember our christian(puritan) heritage.

 

[Free]

oh, hahahaha, I thought you were talking about the topic itself. lol

I cant speak much for this then. However, I was at a wedding a few weeks ago, and a girl (canadian girl) there just moved to the states. She's in grade 12, came to the wedding and said she couldnt believe how bad the schools were. She said her math class was teaching Grade 8 mathematics. I've heard this from a few other people too, they moved to the states and couldnt believe how all the classes seemed so downgraded.

anyway! that's all I really know about it. If that's true then yes!!!! CHANGE IT!!!!!

I've been hearing such stories my whole life but have never personally experienced any US education. However, I do have a brother-in-law who is a teacher at what is considered the top public school in the city and in one of his English courses, they studied a book which analyzed the American public education system. It stated that in one high-school, one of the courses taught how to pack a picnic. When he told me that my jaw hit the floor. That's insane. To put things in perspective, he has now developed a philosophy course or two for the school.

And our public schooling is all free. The private schools are typically significantly better but significantly more expensive.

 

[jasoncran]

free the schools in canada dont pay the teachers? and there's no cost involved with maintenance? no janitors and cafeterias.

 

[Free]

free the schools in canada dont pay the teachers? and there's no cost involved with maintenance? no janitors and cafeterias.

Everyone is paid and everything gets cleaned. It all goes along with universal health care and such--taxes.

 

[jasoncran]

then's its not free. the schools in florida are funded by the a special property tax, the lotto in part :bigfrown though its not known how much goes where. and also grants from the state and also the feds.

all property taxes are paid by all that own or rent property here, and even if you homeschool or private school the money alloted for your kid goes to the school district. so you are paying twice for that private school in a sense, but if a i had kids i would homeschool.

 

[Pard]

then's its not free. the schools in florida are funded by the a special property tax, the lotto in part :bigfrown /quote]

In Connecticut we have two casinos (Foxwoods & Mohegan Suns) The deal was, they are allowed to function and in return they pay money towards our education. Frankly, I feel like Judah with his blood money whenever I walk into school! The lotto is also supposed to go directly to schools... that doesn't work out, everyone else wants a piece of the check as well and in the end the schools get a fraction of the money. I could careless about that though, less money from gambling that is funding me, the better! Sure tax payers don't feel as happy though.

 

[jasoncran]

you are suprisingly consertive for someome from liberal connecticut. my mom is from beacon falls.

 

[Nick]

I'll just chime in quickly, bearing in mind I come from an Australian PoV.

I think all three (homeschooling, private and public) all have their place, and we need choice. I believe the government should be able to provide pretty much free education to anybody - that should be a fundemental human right. But private schools do offer more facilities, discipline and snobbyness if you like that kind of thing, and if you've got a big wallet. And if you want to shelter your kids and have the utmost control over their education, then homeschool them. No offense to anyone, but that is my blunt way of seeing it. Obviously they all have their pros and cons, and it's a matter of deciding for one's self or one's family where to do education.

Here in Australia, the public schools are way underfunded, and so-called 'private' schools get 40% of the government's education spending. Go figure. We've got this extemely good private school near us, and recnetly it got $3 million from the government to build a second swimming pool. At the same time, one of the public schools with the worst reputation (ie is in a 'dodgy suburb') just got $100,000 from the government for a permenant library it's been campaigning for for 20 years. Yes, reform is needed, both here and in the US. I like the European approach, actually, but I may talk about that later.

 

[Nick]

In some scandinavian countrys, their patrolium industry gets taxed at 78%. The money the government receives from that industry's tax and the relatively high income tax they put into education and health. Quite a good approach. Studies show that countries like the US and Australia's education quality is dropping. So why shouldn't we adopt something like what some European countries have done?



Oh, I forgot - they're all communists!

 

[jasoncran]

because our economy runs on oil! i couldnt afford $10.00 gallon for milk and so on. that would cause us to spend less, and then what!

 

[ronniechoate34]

I wonder if the worldwide governance will be anything like communism, I imagine so. I also imagine that if you want to unite the world then you've gotta get the whole world thinking like you need them to or else those plans will never work.


It would be insanity to start with the youth of the world. How would that ever work? Right?