Qustion for trinitarians

[Pard]

Take a look at the poll, the poll is for trinitarians. Three different kinds of trinity believers answered.

If anything I think this poll proves that they (trinitarians) do agree. Seems like you interpret this poll the way you do the bible. Dismissing the obvious and believing whatever you want.

:biglol

shad, you appear to be looking at the poll the same way you look at people's posts... that is to say, you look at the part that suits you and ignore the rest

 

[shad]

It would be helpful if those who chose #2 and #3 would just post who they are and whether or not they believe in the Trinity.

I know there are many kinds of trinitarians, I have been in a forum that a trinity section only for arguing about the trinity. It is nothing but chaos.

 

[Pard]

It would be helpful if those who chose #2 and #3 would just post who they are and whether or not they believe in the Trinity.

I know there are many kinds of trinitarians, I have been in a forum that a trinity section only for arguing about the trinity. It is nothing but chaos.

There are many kinds...

some are catholic, some protestant. some are white, some are black. some are male, some are female. some are young, some are old.

 

[dadof10]

Here is what Dad says:

by dadof10 on Fri Jul 09, 2010 5:50 pm

shad wrote:
dadof10 wrote:
How many verses does it take to make a doctrine? 3, 4? If more than one, I question why you believe Scripture to be "inspired by God" at all, since it only says so ONCE in the entirety of the NT.

So, Shad, how many?

My point is that you are ignoring too many verses to hang on to your mystic verses like "I am".

I am ignoring NOTHING. I have said repeatedly that YHWH is Jesus' God.

What is wrong with you? Are you trying to totally destroy the tiny amount of credibility you have left here? You know very well I said that Jesus PROCEEDS ETERNALLY from the Father and that in Him are two Natures, the human and Divine. Why would you attempt to show otherwise knowing I wouldn't let it stand? Are you only interested in confrontation?

Sad, really.

 

[dadof10]

clearly this post by dad of 10 is enough, shad stop doing that posting half quotes, that is deceptive. post the whole thing.

i deal with evolution and dont believe in that, but i wont treat the guys that believe in that like that, if they have a point and its the better case, i will concede and look for the counter argument.

heres the post on the case made by dad of 10, scroll down to dad of 10 post you will see

viewtopic.php?f=14&t=48911&p=594443&hilit=+yhwh%2Fjesus#p594443

lol "SCRIPTURES CLEARLY POINT OUT THAT CHRIST CLEARLY CLAIMED DIVINE ATTRIBUTES." that means even the name of lord is the same. wow.

for instance, the first and the last, jesus and the yhwh in isiah state that.

so if they same the thing they must be the same.

edited while you posted yours.

Thanks for the backup, Jason.

 

[dadof10]

Francis,

You also told me that Jesus is not YHWH. I remember all these things because I have been reading many, many trinity arguments.

I did? Could you please cite where I said that, I don't recall saying that, Shad.

Regards

Here it is:

francisdesales on Fri Jul 09, 2010 7:00 pm

shad wrote:

[quote:2zk7vz87]Do you know that protestants are saying YHWH is Jesus? If the verses you guys are using are so clear why so much confusion among trinitrians?

The doctrine of the Trinity is a mysterious doctrine that can be confusing to explain. I am not surprised if a Christian has a difficulty with the specifics on it. I think if you hear "Jesus is God", all Christians would agree, even if they have a difficult time proof texting it. That is not necessary, since the Scriptures clearly point out that Jesus claimed divine attributes for Himself, even in the synoptic Gospels...

[/quote:2zk7vz87]

Another example of confrontation for it's own sake. Could you please point out where Francis even HINTED he believed that "Jesus is not YHWH" in his quote above?

Sadder by the minute...

 

[Vic C.]

Take a look at the poll, the poll is for trinitarians. Three different kinds of trinity believers answered.

If anything I think this poll proves that they (trinitarians) do agree. Seems like you interpret this poll the way you do the bible. Dismissing the obvious and believing whatever you want.

I agree. I say anyone who chose the first statement believes in a Triune God.

Those who chose the other two, are not Triune.

The poll as it is presented indicates little concerning the beliefs of the trinitarian. Joe's posts best explains the relationship between the Divine Father and Son.

The poll is showing you have three kinds of trinity views.

I am proving so many ways you guys are confused and divided.

God is not God of confusion and chaos.

The poll shows three choices, two of which are not trinitarian and only shows your confusion on the matter, so you have proved nothing.

And we really did not need another Trinity thread. :gah

No, we don't. This thread was just a divisive and rather chaotic attempt to disprove a very old and established belief, shown in that light by posts presented by Dadof 10.