Qustion for trinitarians

[Packrat]

As to the question of whether Jesus is Yahweh/Jehovah, see Zechariah 12:1, 10.

 

[shad]

clearly this post by dad of 10 is enough, shad stop doing that posting half quotes, that is deceptive. post the whole thing.

I just did what you told me to do and you are saying it is deceptive to show the posts?
Isn't it more deceptive to lie and say that the half of the post I didn't quote says something that it DOESN'T?

uh no, if you read on i said that i was posting when you posted yours, and you still didnt look for where the catholics (dad of 10)here did state clearly the jesus was the yhwh.

the verse you hate, jn 20:28
clearly supports that.

Jason,

be a dear and look up where the Catholics here state clearly the jesus was the yhwh.

 

[Free]

The poll is showing you have three kinds of trinity views.

I am proving so many ways you guys are confused and divided.

God is not God of confusion and chaos.

The poll shows three choices, two of which are not trinitarian and only shows your confusion on the matter, so you have proved nothing.

And we really did not need another Trinity thread. :gah

 

[shad]

As to the question of whether Jesus is Yahweh/Jehovah, see Zechariah 12:1, 10.

pacrat,

This thread is about the confusion of trinity doctrine among trinitarians.

 

[Pard]

The poll is showing you have three kinds of trinity views.

I am proving so many ways you guys are confused and divided.

God is not God of confusion and chaos.

Accept 77% of the people are voting for the correct answer. The other 22% voted for something that is not the Trinity, obvious they are confused as to what it is they believe in...

Furthermore, this is hardly a proper poll, for instance you could have voted in it. You can give me your word you didn't, but that doesn't mean much to me, as you clearly aim to demonize...

 

[Packrat]

As to the question of whether Jesus is Yahweh/Jehovah, see Zechariah 12:1, 10.

pacrat,

This thread is about the confusion of trinity doctrine among trinitarians.

Confusion? I'll try not to be so enlightening next time then. Sorry. :D

 

[shad]

The poll is showing you have three kinds of trinity views.

I am proving so many ways you guys are confused and divided.

God is not God of confusion and chaos.

The poll shows three choices, two of which are not trinitarian which only shows your confusion on the matter, so you have proved nothing.

And we really did not need another Trinity thread. :gah

Free,

This thread is about the confusion of trinity doctrine among trinitarians.

I asked trinitarians, and they answered. Three different kinds of trinity. I guess you can say if they dont believe the way you do, they are not trinitarians. Another strange comment.

 

[jasoncran]

shad you provided that for me,if the lord is called that name,as the verse states in jn 20:28
thomas called him MY LORD and MY GOD, that means if by your thinking only the father is God, and jesus didnt rebuke thomas saying that, that means the very names used by the father in hevean by default aslo apply.

jesus(yahshua) yahweh saves

 

[Free]

The poll is showing you have three kinds of trinity views.

I am proving so many ways you guys are confused and divided.

God is not God of confusion and chaos.

The poll shows three choices, two of which are not trinitarian which only shows your confusion on the matter, so you have proved nothing.

And we really did not need another Trinity thread. :gah

Free,

This thread is about the confusion of trinity doctrine among trinitarians.

I asked trinitarians, and they answered. Three different kinds of trinity. I guess you can say if they dont believe the way you do, they are not trinitarians. Another strange comment.

Shad, anyone could have picked the other two choices, not just trinitarians. Your second and third choices are, by definition, not trinitarian. So, like I said, you have proved nothing about any confusion regarding the doctrine of the Trinity.

This thread is going no where and should not have been started. There are too many going already.

 

[jasoncran]

i see no further need to keep it open, be my guest.

even though for the sake of shad i will add this.

John 10:33........ The Jews answered him: “We are stoning you, not for a fine work, but for blasphemy, even because you, although being a man, make yourself a god.â€
My guess is this is the New World mistranslation.Did Yahshua say he was a god, or did he say he was Yahwah?

Since "my God" is YHWH to Thomas, and Jesus verified Thomas' statement, Jesus claims to be YHWH. Simple, huh?

 

[shad]

shad you provided that for me,if the lord is called that name,as the verse states in jn 20:28
thomas called him MY LORD and MY GOD, that means if by your thinking only the father is God, and jesus didnt rebuke thomas saying that, that means the very names used by the father in hevean by default aslo apply.

jesus(yahshua) yahweh saves

This thread is not about debating doctrine. We have already done that tons of time. We dont have to rehash it a gazillion times.

My point is in how confusing and devided you guys are with your own doctrine which you cannot agree upon among yourselves.

 

[shad]

And we really did not need another Trinity thread. :gah

Free,

This thread is not about debating doctrine. We have already done that tons of time. We dont have to rehash it a gazillion times.

My point is in how confusing and devided you guys are with your own doctrine which you cannot agree upon among yourselves.

 

[jasoncran]

actually shad, i agree with francis and dad of 10.

never ever has it occured to me that they were wrong on the trinity.

i believe that the name of yhwh applies to both father and son.


you get confused more then we do.

 

[Free]

And we really did not need another Trinity thread. :gah

Free,

This thread is not about debating doctrine. We have already done that tons of time. We dont have to rehash it a gazillion times.

My point is in how confusing and devided you guys are with your own doctrine which you cannot agree upon among yourselves.

Then, please, please show me how you have shown that we are confused and divided because I just don't see it.

 

[Pard]

I think I'm seeing double...

Shad, why are you so focused on demonizing and destroying the Trinity? You seem to be nice and respectful to the Muslims and the atheists on the board (perhaps it is only because they support your attack on the Trinity?). You are the single person on this board who seeks to demonize and disrespect the beliefs of fellow brothers in Christ. I know you are wrong in not believing the Trinity, it doesn't mean I do not see you as a Christian and it doesn't mean you are not going to make it to heaven. God awards salvation for those who are faithful, He doesn't take it away just because you cannot grasp the Trinity...

 

[watchman F]

This thread is not about debating doctrine. We have already done that tons of time. We dont have to rehash it a gazillion times.

My point is in how confusing and devided you guys are with your own doctrine which you cannot agree upon among yourselves.

Well looks like it backfired on ya, 80% of those voting agree that Jesus is Yahwey. Oddly enough that is what we Oneness believe.

Here is an excerpt of one of my writings.
While I confess that the deity of the Son did pre-exist incarnation, I do not see that deity as the second person of the Trinity, known as " God the Son ", and separate from the Father or Holy Spirit, but rather as the uni-personal God of the old testament. Yahweh, the Father, the Great I Am.''

 

[shad]

And we really did not need another Trinity thread. :gah

Free,

This thread is not about debating doctrine. We have already done that tons of time. We dont have to rehash it a gazillion times.

My point is in how confusing and devided you guys are with your own doctrine which you cannot agree upon among yourselves.

Then, please, please show me how you have shown that we are confused and divided because I just don't see it.

Take a look at the poll, the poll is for trinitarians. Three different kinds of trinity believers answered.

 

[Pard]

Take a look at the poll, the poll is for trinitarians. Three different kinds of trinity believers answered.

Only because you, someone who doesn't even believe in the Trinity posted three different views, and then two people who are not aware that they do not believe in the trinity answered...

Frankly, how do I know you didn't put down answer two? That sounds pretty much like what you believe...

 

[Free]

Then, please, please show me how you have shown that we are confused and divided because I just don't see it.

Take a look at the poll, the poll is for trinitarians. Three different kinds of trinity believers answered.

Do you really think that just because the title of this thread is "Question for trinitarians" that only trinitarians will answer, especially when the title of the poll is "Do you believe Jesus is YHWH and equel with God the Father?"

The Trinity by definition, includes the idea that Jesus is God and equal to the Father but is not the Father. Your last two choices are, on the other hand, not trinitarian.

It would be helpful if those who chose #2 and #3 would just post who they are and whether or not they believe in the Trinity.

 

[watchman F]

Take a look at the poll, the poll is for trinitarians. Three different kinds of trinity believers answered.

If anything I think this poll proves that they (trinitarians) do agree. Seems like you interpret this poll the way you do the bible. Dismissing the obvious and believing whatever you want.