RCIA/OCIA (I'm gonna be Catholic soon)

[donadams]

Yes i have English translations on the earliest manuscripts and so do you. There are many versions. The good versions, that is to say the best versions having a footnote informing us that most manuscripts including all of the old ones do not have The last half of that chapter of Mark. That means early Christians did not have those verses. It was added later is the most likely scenario.

Sacraments are the same as works they're just new Testament versions of laws and entirely negate the spirit of everything Jesus taught.

I was baptized a couple years after I got saved. I wanted to make a public statement about what God had already done for me. Baptism is a symbol of being washed of our sin and raising dead to sins power over us. I was washed of my sins centuries before I was even born.
Abraham was washed of his sins centuries after he died by the very same act. The death of Jesus.

the sacraments are the PROMISES OF GOD!

a sacred promise of God is an oath and an oath is a sacrament!

God's works not ours!
you can't baptize yourself!
you can't enter yourself Jn 3:5 an entrance must be administered unto you 2 pet 1:11

acts 2:38-39

38 Then Peter said unto them, Repent, and be baptized every one of you in the name of Jesus Christ for the remission of sins, and ye shall receive the gift of the Holy Ghost.

39 For the promise is unto you, and to your children, and to all that are afar off, even as many as the Lord our God shall call.

God's promise in ez 36:25-27

25 Then will I sprinkle clean water upon you, and ye shall be clean: from all your filthiness, and from all your idols, will I cleanse you.

26 A new heart also will I give you, and a new spirit will I put within you: and I will take away the stony heart out of your flesh, and I will give you an heart of flesh.

27 And I will put my spirit within you, and cause you to walk in my statutes, and ye shall keep my judgments, and do them.

Christ founded the apostolic church to teach (truth revealed by Christ) and sanctify (administer the grace of baptism) all men unto eternal salvation! Matt 28:19-20
the church has the authority of Christ in union with Christ!

Sacramental life: Jn 1:16 And of his fulness have all we received, and grace for grace. Jn 10:10 The thief cometh not, but for to steal, and to kill, and to destroy: I am come that they might have life, and that they might have it more abundantly.

Baptism: (initiation into the covenant)
Mk 16:16 Jn 3:5
1 Corinthians 12:13
For by one Spirit are we all baptized into one body, whether we be Jews or Gentiles, whether we be bond or free; and have been all made to drink into one Spirit.

The Eucharist: (holy communion)
Mt 26:26-39 Jn 6:51-58 1 Cor 11:23-25

Confession of sins:
Jn 20:23 / 1 Jn 1:9 / 2 cor 5:18

Confirmation
Lk 22:32 acts 8:14-17
acts 14:22

Marriage:
Matt 19:4-6

Holy orders: (priesthood)
Jesus Christ continues HIS ministry in His new covenant church thru His priesthood in Peter, the apostles, and their successors with the same mission, power, and authority!
Mt 10:1-8 Mt 16:18 Mt 28:19 Lk 10:16 Jn 8:32 Jn 13:20 Jn 15:5 Jn 16:13
Jn 20:21-22 acts 1:17 acts 6:4 acts 8:26
2 Cor 5:18 1 Tim 4:14 Eph 2:20

Extreme unction: (anointing with oil)
1 Tim 4:14 James 5:14

only in the The ark of salvation: one, holy, catholic, (universal) and apostolic church founded by Jesus Christ on Peter and the apostles!


The deposit of faith, the entire divine revelation and word of God is given to the church of the apostles by Christ to safeguard against all error!
And to faithfully teach all nations!
Jude 1:3, Matt 28:19 Jn 16:13

thks

 

[GodsGrace]

the sacraments are the PROMISES OF GOD!

a sacred promise of God is an oath and an oath is a sacrament!

God's works not ours!
you can't baptize yourself!
you can't enter yourself Jn 3:5 an entrance must be administered unto you 2 pet 1:11

acts 2:38-39

38 Then Peter said unto them, Repent, and be baptized every one of you in the name of Jesus Christ for the remission of sins, and ye shall receive the gift of the Holy Ghost.

39 For the promise is unto you, and to your children, and to all that are afar off, even as many as the Lord our God shall call.

God's promise in ez 36:25-27

25 Then will I sprinkle clean water upon you, and ye shall be clean: from all your filthiness, and from all your idols, will I cleanse you.

26 A new heart also will I give you, and a new spirit will I put within you: and I will take away the stony heart out of your flesh, and I will give you an heart of flesh.

27 And I will put my spirit within you, and cause you to walk in my statutes, and ye shall keep my judgments, and do them.

Christ founded the apostolic church to teach (truth revealed by Christ) and sanctify (administer the grace of baptism) all men unto eternal salvation! Matt 28:19-20
the church has the authority of Christ in union with Christ!

Sacramental life: Jn 1:16 And of his fulness have all we received, and grace for grace. Jn 10:10 The thief cometh not, but for to steal, and to kill, and to destroy: I am come that they might have life, and that they might have it more abundantly.

Baptism: (initiation into the covenant)
Mk 16:16 Jn 3:5
1 Corinthians 12:13
For by one Spirit are we all baptized into one body, whether we be Jews or Gentiles, whether we be bond or free; and have been all made to drink into one Spirit.

The Eucharist: (holy communion)
Mt 26:26-39 Jn 6:51-58 1 Cor 11:23-25

Confession of sins:
Jn 20:23 / 1 Jn 1:9 / 2 cor 5:18

Confirmation
Lk 22:32 acts 8:14-17
acts 14:22

Marriage:
Matt 19:4-6

Holy orders: (priesthood)
Jesus Christ continues HIS ministry in His new covenant church thru His priesthood in Peter, the apostles, and their successors with the same mission, power, and authority!
Mt 10:1-8 Mt 16:18 Mt 28:19 Lk 10:16 Jn 8:32 Jn 13:20 Jn 15:5 Jn 16:13
Jn 20:21-22 acts 1:17 acts 6:4 acts 8:26
2 Cor 5:18 1 Tim 4:14 Eph 2:20

Extreme unction: (anointing with oil)
1 Tim 4:14 James 5:14

only in the The ark of salvation: one, holy, catholic, (universal) and apostolic church founded by Jesus Christ on Peter and the apostles!


The deposit of faith, the entire divine revelation and word of God is given to the church of the apostles by Christ to safeguard against all error!
And to faithfully teach all nations!
Jude 1:3, Matt 28:19 Jn 16:13

thks

Let's hope the Apostolic church continues....

 

[donadams]

If baptism is only a symbol of being washed...
then is the NT misrepresenting baptism?
The NT states that baptism washes away sin and gifts us with the Holy Spirit.

I'm not saying if we don't get baptized we go to hell...
I'm saying that baptism has to be more than just a symbol...
or it's of no use.

ordinarily required!

meaning if it's readily available we cannot reject it

the nicean creed states
one baptism for the remission of sin.
eph 4:5 & acts 22:16

thks

 

[donadams]

Have you actually asked a follower of one of these religions how they view kneeling before an image and prayers to that image?

they have intent to worship an idol, hindu's etc yes not catholics

 

[donadams]

Let's hope the Apostolic church continues....

upon the promise of Jesus Christ! matt 16:18-19

 

[GodsGrace]

upon the promise of Jesus Christ! matt 16:18-19

We'll see.
The last one didn't work out well.
And he stacked the deck against Tradition.
I never would have believed this could happen...