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Reasons why women/men stay in abusive relationships

I didn't like the movie at all.

It was sad to see Michael Douglas and Kathleen Turner in such a horrid movie after their fun movies "Romancing the Stone" and "Jewel of the Nile"
 
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There are many more 'helps' to women today than 30- 40 years ago... Law is more help... there are safe houses...
 
It's funny what we put up with from boyfriends/girlfriends or husbands/wives, isn't it? A long time ago when I was dating an abusive woman (not physical just very verbally abusive and very conniving) I realized one day that all I had to do was picture her in my mind as just another guy that I was friends with. Then from that viewpoint I would ask myself, if another guy did or said this to me, would I put up with it? I gave her the "opportunity" to leave my life shortly after that. To be honest, there were few potential spouses that passed that test, but it kept me out of many bad relationships.

I wonder, how many people would choose as a roommate someone of the same gender who abuses them? No one I know would. So why choose an abusive person to be a spouse? There's no reason a woman can't put her man to the same test before she ever marries him and gets stuck into a bad marriage.

As for separating from the person who changes and become abusive after marriage, that's a hard and confusing decision to make in regards to God's will. A pastor and I were talking about that one time. He's a conservative, Bible believing type, not a liberal at all. But his take on it was that it's perfectly OK for a person to separate from an abusive spouse for their own safety or for the safety of their children, and that there is no time limit on how long that separation can last as long as the spouse is unrepentant. He did not believe it was scriptural grounds for divorce unless the other spouse decided to find a new partner and commit adultery, but it was OK to stay separated indefinitely if there was no true repentance.
 
There are many more 'helps' to women today than 30- 40 years ago... Law is more help... there are safe houses...

But when she goes back it usually just starts all over again. That's the statics, even when there is counseling.
 
Go back? NOPE ...... I can see if it was the first time either spouse was violent the second nope..
 
I didn't like the movie at all.

It was sad to see Michael Douglas and Kathleen Turner in such a horrid movie after their fun movies "Romancing the Stone" and "Jewel of the Nile"

Didn't they kiss and make up in the end ?
 
A friend lived with us for a while early 70s .... At that time she go zero help from the cops...
 
It's funny what we put up with from boyfriends/girlfriends or husbands/wives, isn't it? A long time ago when I was dating an abusive woman (not physical just very verbally abusive and very conniving) I realized one day that all I had to do was picture her in my mind as just another guy that I was friends with. Then from that viewpoint I would ask myself, if another guy did or said this to me, would I put up with it? I gave her the "opportunity" to leave my life shortly after that. To be honest, there were few potential spouses that passed that test, but it kept me out of many bad relationships.

I wonder, how many people would choose as a roommate someone of the same gender who abuses them? No one I know would. So why choose an abusive person to be a spouse? There's no reason a woman can't put her man to the same test before she ever marries him and gets stuck into a bad marriage.

As for separating from the person who changes and become abusive after marriage, that's a hard and confusing decision to make in regards to God's will. A pastor and I were talking about that one time. He's a conservative, Bible believing type, not a liberal at all. But his take on it was that it's perfectly OK for a person to separate from an abusive spouse for their own safety or for the safety of their children, and that there is no time limit on how long that separation can last as long as the spouse is unrepentant. He did not believe it was scriptural grounds for divorce unless the other spouse decided to find a new partner and commit adultery, but it was OK to stay separated indefinitely if there was no true repentance.
Yes,I think it is Biblically ok to separate from an abusive spouse.There are legal separations and the spouse can receive benefits.
 
Didn't they kiss and make up in the end ?

Nope... they both fall, talk, and when he reaches out to touch her hand before he dies, she slaps his hand away with her last breath. So they both died.
 
Yes,I think it is Biblically ok to separate from an abusive spouse.There are legal separations and the spouse can receive benefits.

Yeah I think an abusive spouse should be treated as per Mathew 18.
 
But when she goes back it usually just starts all over again. That's the statics, even when there is counseling.
The abuser usually has a pattern.They say they are sorry and they say they will never ever do it again and they can not do enough for you.......then....BAM....it starts all over again.
 
It's funny what we put up with from boyfriends/girlfriends or husbands/wives, isn't it? A long time ago when I was dating an abusive woman (not physical just very verbally abusive and very conniving) I realized one day that all I had to do was picture her in my mind as just another guy that I was friends with. Then from that viewpoint I would ask myself, if another guy did or said this to me, would I put up with it? I gave her the "opportunity" to leave my life shortly after that. To be honest, there were few potential spouses that passed that test, but it kept me out of many bad relationships.

I wonder, how many people would choose as a roommate someone of the same gender who abuses them? No one I know would. So why choose an abusive person to be a spouse? There's no reason a woman can't put her man to the same test before she ever marries him and gets stuck into a bad marriage.

As for separating from the person who changes and become abusive after marriage, that's a hard and confusing decision to make in regards to God's will. A pastor and I were talking about that one time. He's a conservative, Bible believing type, not a liberal at all. But his take on it was that it's perfectly OK for a person to separate from an abusive spouse for their own safety or for the safety of their children, and that there is no time limit on how long that separation can last as long as the spouse is unrepentant. He did not believe it was scriptural grounds for divorce unless the other spouse decided to find a new partner and commit adultery, but it was OK to stay separated indefinitely if there was no true repentance.

If there is no legal divorce that person can do anything they want. They can kidnap the children because they have just as much parental rights as the one who is not the abuser and the law can't help you because you never got custodial rights. So to get them back one has to kidnap them back. Or do you leave your children with a violent person. They can run up all kinds of debt that both are responsible for. And as far as the abuser is concerned he still feels like he has all the rights he had before. I know someone who was separated because of abuse, there was a legal restraining order. He broke into the house and raped her, it was his right as her husband is what he said.
 
If there is no legal divorce that person can do anything they want. They can kidnap the children because they have just as much parental rights as the one who is not the abuser and the law can't help you because you never got custodial rights. So to get them back one has to kidnap them back. Or do you leave your children with a violent person. They can run up all kinds of debt that both are responsible for. And as far as the abuser is concerned he still feels like he has all the rights he had before. I know someone who was separated because of abuse, there was a legal restraining order. He broke into the house and raped her, it was his right as her husband is what he said.
Alot of restraining orders mean nothing.There have been women killed who had restraining orders.
 
Yes,I think it is Biblically ok to separate from an abusive spouse.There are legal separations and the spouse can receive benefits.

I've never had to do that (I am divorced, but it was due to an adulterous spouse) but I think the hard part over time would be the idea of still living like you are married as far as other relationships are concerned. Even after it becomes apparent that you are probably not going back, you still are not free to pursue another relationship because you are still married. All the more reason to be very careful who you marry in the first place. I saw way to many people get married just because it was the thing to do after they graduated from high school, or just because they wanted to have kids, or just craved the big show of being the bride in the fancy dress. So many never stopped to understand the long term consequences

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Nope... they both fall, talk, and when he reaches out to touch her hand before he dies, she slaps his hand away with her last breath. So they both died.

Ah yeah the irony :D

Oliver Rose: And you better get yourself a damn good lawyer!

Barbara Rose: Best your money can buy!

I liked it but that was years ago I watched it.
 
Turmoil such as was in that movie, I find disturbing. So I didn't care at all for the movie, despite being Kathleen Turner/Michael Douglas movies' fan.
 
Oky doky fair enough. I tend to like comedic irony but you're right the movie was full on.
 
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