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26 "And after the sixty-two weeks Messiah shall be cut off, but not for Himself; And the people of the prince who is to come Shall destroy the city and the sanctuary. The end of it shall be with a flood, And till the end of the war desolations are determined.
- Messiah shall be cut off, but not for Himself. - 33 AD
Verse 26 teaches that the Temple was destroyed, which history tells us occurred in 70 AD.
- And the people of the prince who is to come Shall destroy the city and the sanctuary. - 70 AD
27 Then he shall confirm a covenant with many for one week; But in the middle of the week He shall bring an end to sacrifice and offering. And on the wing of abominations shall be one who makes desolate, Even until the consummation, which is determined, Is poured out on the desolate." Daniel 9:26-27
He in verse 27 refers to the last person mentioned - "the prince who is to come".
Verse 27 shows us another Temple in which the prince who is to come, [future to 70 AD] will confirm a covenant for a 7 year period.
Clearly 70 AD could not fulfill this scripture, as it would require the destruction and rebuilding of the temple in that year.
JLB
Daniel 9:25-26 “… the Messiah pthe Prince shall be seven weeks, and threescore and two weeks: the street * shall be built again, and the * wall, qeven * in troublous times. And rafter threescore and two weeks sshall oMessiah be cut off, * * tbut not for himself: * and uthe people of the prince that shall come vshall destroy the city and wthe sanctuary …”
JBL wrote: “Clearly 70 AD could not fulfill this scripture, as it would require the destruction and rebuilding of the temple in that year.”
Answering what JBL is proposing in these verses Edward J. Young argues as follows: Edward J. Young The Geneva Series of Commentaries page 211:
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the reason I like those two is that they take the lesson from matthew 24 and apply for the audience. "this is how jesus felt about that and look to ad 70 and we see what happened, don't do that because his coming back" simple easy and ya cant fail in that. ie be HOLY!
Yes, but there is a problem. It is too easy. It is just as easy to say all of Matt 24 is fulfilled. And then all of Revelation is fulfilled. And then Jesus is coming back for some other reason you have to invent. And then the only reason to question what you are doing is in the creeds and in soteriology where you then need to contradict yourself. Once you start down that road what is there to stop you from becoming full preterist?
jesus was asked by whom about the end? the audience who asked him then. if they are the YOU, why are they dead then? there shall be some of you standing here that shall not see death till all these come to pass. where is these men and women today? dead.Yes, but there is a problem. It is too easy. It is just as easy to say all of Matt 24 is fulfilled. And then all of Revelation is fulfilled. And then Jesus is coming back for some other reason you have to invent. And then the only reason to question what you are doing is in the creeds and in soteriology where you then need to contradict yourself. Once you start down that road what is there to stop you from becoming full preterist?
ok so that makes most of matthew 24 as far as being anything but fulfilled.
But I do not think God needs to destroy America and support for Israel so that all the nations can come against it. That's silly.
jesus was asked by whom about the end? the audience who asked him then. if they are the YOU, why are they dead then? there shall be some of you standing here that shall not see death till all these come to pass. where is these men and women today? dead.
Preterism and Redirectionalism are not the same thing at all. I consider Preterism Heresy, I cannot find anything from keeping a Partial Preterist from becoming a Full Preterst to then become a Hyper Preterist. Can you? If you cannot then I think it is heresy. Redirectionalism is a form of Idealism, but not the kind of Idealism that has already been defined by Christianity. I am saying it is about ideas more then it is about specific points in time, God's ideas.
"Matthew 24:14 And this gospel of the kingdom shall be preached in all the world for a witness unto all nations; and then shall the end come."
Do you know about all the verse that say that happened? I will assume you do. Rather than look them up and list them here I will answer your question further "...how does this verse fit into the picture?".
When I read Matt. 24:14 I read it in the perspective of my world. And I would say only God knows when the Gospel has been preached into all the world for a coming and end that He might be concerned with today. Jesus could come at any moment, but I would plan that He may come 100 years from now and keep building the church.
But I do not think God needs to destroy America and support for Israel so that all the nations can come against it. That's silly.
In this day and age, Matthew Henry, Adam Clark, Wesley, Bunyan, Calvin, Spurgeon, would have all been called partial preterists it seems because of their views about Daniel 9, in fact almost all of Daniel was thought to be in past. Almost all the Reformation people thought that way.
Their views of Revelation were very different.
It's called the Historical view. None of them became Full Preterists or Hyper Preterists (whatever that is).
Could you state your argument for believing that if one is partial preterist they Will become......
They did not believe in a 'rapture' apart from the resurrection of the saints and the Second Coming.
They believed that Revelation was talking about the RRC and the pope. (Rome)