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Elijah674
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Replacement Theology?? I see God telling us of REPEATED History as an requirement. Here is something that I did some time back on another board, see if it causes one to 'see' better? ;)
By Elijah:
What does the Godhead 'DOCUMENT'?? What do They SAY WITH THEIR Eternal WORD?? (Matt. 4:4, 2 Tim. 3:17, Isa. 28:10) The below verses could straighten out much of satans false doctrines of the Rev. 17:5 Abomination of the Earth ones, [IF GOD WAS REALLY BELIEVED BY THEM!] But that would mean that most would be required to [TOSS OUT] much of their life's work & start [all over again!] Like Saul did to become the Paul of the New Testament in Acts 9:4-6.. where Christ told him what.. [HE MUST DO!]
Here in Jer 4 is an EXACT repeat of Earth from its created birth to its recreated birth! We think of Christ's [DOCUMENTED WORDS] in John 3:3 that 'WE MUST BE BORN AGAIN?? But here and elsewhere, we see that it is not just mankind, but EARTH AS WELL! Where ever sin has 'touched' will require the Godhead's Recreated, and a type of Born Again's recreation! Even the lower heavens where man has been trying to get into outer space! The below verses are so plain & simple that even the Heb. 5 'milk/fed ones could be straightened out if they would just BELIEVE ALL OF GOD'S Truth.
Jeremiah 4
[21] How long shall I see the standard, and hear the sound of the trumpet?
(compare this with 1 Thess. 4:15-16)
[22] For my people is foolish, they have not known me; they are sottish children, and they have none understanding: they are wise to do evil, but to do good they have no knowledge.
(compare with Hosea 4:6!)
[23] I beheld the earth, and, lo, it was without form, and void; and the heavens, and they had no light. (compare with 2 Peter 3:9-12 & *2 Peter 2:4!)
[24] I beheld the mountains, and, lo, they trembled, and all the hills moved lightly.
[25] I beheld, and, lo, there was no man, and all the birds of the heavens were fled.
(The Word of God does not play games or lie! This verse is as clear as it can be [documented by the Godhead!!] )
[26] I beheld, and, lo, the fruitful place was a wilderness, and all the cities thereof were broken down at the presence of the LORD, and by his fierce anger.
(Again, seen right back to the time before creation, A WILDERNESS! And this time period of when this takes place is again clearly told, [AT THE PRESENCE OF THE LORD,] His Second Coming!)
[27] For thus hath the LORD said, The whole land shall be desolate; yet will I not make a full end.(An DESOLATE VOID HEAVEN AND EARTH is the Godheads 'Documentation!' With nothing here but satan & his evil angels.. as before They CREATED IT!!) And then we see the verse saying 'Yet I will not make a full End'. All are DEAD of sinful mankind when Christ return's the Second time, and the Saints are resurrected to leave with Christ & the living Saints together into heaven until the 1000 years are over. And the only ones that could live on earth are the same ones who 'kicked out of heaven' & were sent here before its creation.
Just an Eternal 'Documentation' of the Godheads thought!
If one cannot follow God's quoted Truth of Eccl. 1:9-10 & Eccl. 3:15 as the Word of God, stated CLEARLY, and in a way that even most of Heb. 5's 'milkfed' ones can even get something from. I suggest that you shy away from Ph.D'ism, the arm of flesh & the Greek, Latin, & Heb., & stick with just one King James translation itself. The BOTTOM line is, is that ALL of these others ways of finding 'some' truth, are the real reasons that have caused the BIGGEST MESS OF DIS/UNITY that the GOSPEL ALONE prophesied of! See Rev. 17:5
And I realize that there are & were some who could not understand Paul's wording of inspiration & that it is scripture that also says that.... 'which they that are unlearned and unstable wrest, as they do also the other scriptures, unto their own destruction'. 2 Peter 3:14-17 in part.
Forum: Lets start with Eccl. 3:14.
"I know that, WHATSOEVER GOD DOETH, IT SHALL BE FOREVER: NOTHING CAN BE PUT TO IT, NOR ANY THING TAKEN FROM IT: ..." (in part)
Actually it is just about a repeat even in Wording, as seen in Rev.'s closing verses!
The verses are a WARNING about adding to or removing any part of the Word of God! And the BOTTOM line is that ones name would be removed from the Book of Life. Now for the rest of the 14th verse. "... THAT MEN SHOULD FEAR BEFORE HIM."
For one to say that the Eccl. verses do not mean what they say, is doing just that!
Now look at the verse following verse 14. Verse 15 says.. "THAT WHICH HAS BEEN IS NOW; AND THAT WHICH IS TO BE HAS ALREADY BEEN; AND GOD REQUIRETH THAT WHICH IS PAST." GOD'S WORD says that it is so!
Take note: If it is not to be, God say that it will not be. Example: 'Sin will not arise a second time' Nah. 1:9. And we all know about the world flood not happening a second time? So, there are so very few times that history does not repeat, and that God does the easy thing for [us] by pointing out the lesser number. (by the way, Rev. is full of O.T. Sanctuary! see Ps. 77:13)
If anyone would BELIEVE THE *GODHEAD'S INSPIRED WORD (ALL OF IT! See 2 Tim. 3:16 & Matt. 4:4) they would find Few reasons for mixed up doctrinal folds.
But the bottom line is that even the Virgin Fold is going after the fate of Virgin Israel of old!! (same history) They are once again Christ/less. See Rev. 3:9 or Rev. 17:5! And the nasty repeat for them is VERIFIED in Eze. 9.
Try reading Rev. 12:17 S-L-O-W-L-E-Y! And in Christ's day, who do you think took over the 'DESOLATE' fold that Christ was put out of? It was Christ that stated that 'Your house (fold) is left unto you DESOLATE'. Matt. 23:38.
So, this is what will be the final fate of Spiritual Virgin Israel! (the 666 thing'y is for the world's testing) See 1 Peter 4:17 FOR WHO IS JUDGED FIRST.
Back to Chapter 1:9-10 of Eccl. Lets check to 'see' (if we can) if God made a mistake?
We do remember that we were told that 'IT SHALL BE FOR EVER and that NOTHING CAN BE PUT TO IT NOR ANYTHING TAKEN FROM IT.' (chapter 3:14-15)
"THE THING THAT HATH BEEN IS THAT WHICH SHALL BE; AND THAT WHICH IS DONE IS THAT WHICH SHALL BE DONE: AND THERE IS (NOTHING) *NO NEW THING UNDER THE SUN. v.9
IS THERE [*ANY THING] WHERE OF IT MAY BE SAID, SEE, THIS IS NEW? [IT HATH BEEN ALREADY OF OLD TIME, WHICH WAS BEFORE US.]" v.10
Now what are we going to hear, huh??
Notice that after the GodHead's question, that Their Inspiration came quickly before 'ignorant' man could botch up the question!! But what does one hear today?? Should we do the 'foolish' (Matt. 25) thing and read & study the 'earthly' educated ones reams & reams of commentaries, with hardly any two alike?? (false fold/wise at least)
Lets just add another 'documented' fact here with these two verses.
In Gen. 41:32 the Lord gave Pharaoh a vision 'TWICE'.[/color] (remember now, that we see TWICE at least in the Eccl. 1:9-10 & Eccl. 3:15 that history is to be repeated) Also note that God has 'inspired' this thought ... "And for that the dream was [doubled] unto Pharaoh [twice]; it is [because the thing is established by God], and God will shortly bring it to pass.
So bottom line: If you want to know Truth, find it in the past history for the furture history to be! All the way from the 666 test to where God 'tested' His own in the past before they were to enter their land of their Canaan. And the crucifixion of Christ a second time? See Heb. 6:6!
--Elijah
By Elijah:
What does the Godhead 'DOCUMENT'?? What do They SAY WITH THEIR Eternal WORD?? (Matt. 4:4, 2 Tim. 3:17, Isa. 28:10) The below verses could straighten out much of satans false doctrines of the Rev. 17:5 Abomination of the Earth ones, [IF GOD WAS REALLY BELIEVED BY THEM!] But that would mean that most would be required to [TOSS OUT] much of their life's work & start [all over again!] Like Saul did to become the Paul of the New Testament in Acts 9:4-6.. where Christ told him what.. [HE MUST DO!]
Here in Jer 4 is an EXACT repeat of Earth from its created birth to its recreated birth! We think of Christ's [DOCUMENTED WORDS] in John 3:3 that 'WE MUST BE BORN AGAIN?? But here and elsewhere, we see that it is not just mankind, but EARTH AS WELL! Where ever sin has 'touched' will require the Godhead's Recreated, and a type of Born Again's recreation! Even the lower heavens where man has been trying to get into outer space! The below verses are so plain & simple that even the Heb. 5 'milk/fed ones could be straightened out if they would just BELIEVE ALL OF GOD'S Truth.
Jeremiah 4
[21] How long shall I see the standard, and hear the sound of the trumpet?
(compare this with 1 Thess. 4:15-16)
[22] For my people is foolish, they have not known me; they are sottish children, and they have none understanding: they are wise to do evil, but to do good they have no knowledge.
(compare with Hosea 4:6!)
[23] I beheld the earth, and, lo, it was without form, and void; and the heavens, and they had no light. (compare with 2 Peter 3:9-12 & *2 Peter 2:4!)
[24] I beheld the mountains, and, lo, they trembled, and all the hills moved lightly.
[25] I beheld, and, lo, there was no man, and all the birds of the heavens were fled.
(The Word of God does not play games or lie! This verse is as clear as it can be [documented by the Godhead!!] )
[26] I beheld, and, lo, the fruitful place was a wilderness, and all the cities thereof were broken down at the presence of the LORD, and by his fierce anger.
(Again, seen right back to the time before creation, A WILDERNESS! And this time period of when this takes place is again clearly told, [AT THE PRESENCE OF THE LORD,] His Second Coming!)
[27] For thus hath the LORD said, The whole land shall be desolate; yet will I not make a full end.(An DESOLATE VOID HEAVEN AND EARTH is the Godheads 'Documentation!' With nothing here but satan & his evil angels.. as before They CREATED IT!!) And then we see the verse saying 'Yet I will not make a full End'. All are DEAD of sinful mankind when Christ return's the Second time, and the Saints are resurrected to leave with Christ & the living Saints together into heaven until the 1000 years are over. And the only ones that could live on earth are the same ones who 'kicked out of heaven' & were sent here before its creation.
Just an Eternal 'Documentation' of the Godheads thought!
If one cannot follow God's quoted Truth of Eccl. 1:9-10 & Eccl. 3:15 as the Word of God, stated CLEARLY, and in a way that even most of Heb. 5's 'milkfed' ones can even get something from. I suggest that you shy away from Ph.D'ism, the arm of flesh & the Greek, Latin, & Heb., & stick with just one King James translation itself. The BOTTOM line is, is that ALL of these others ways of finding 'some' truth, are the real reasons that have caused the BIGGEST MESS OF DIS/UNITY that the GOSPEL ALONE prophesied of! See Rev. 17:5
And I realize that there are & were some who could not understand Paul's wording of inspiration & that it is scripture that also says that.... 'which they that are unlearned and unstable wrest, as they do also the other scriptures, unto their own destruction'. 2 Peter 3:14-17 in part.
Forum: Lets start with Eccl. 3:14.
"I know that, WHATSOEVER GOD DOETH, IT SHALL BE FOREVER: NOTHING CAN BE PUT TO IT, NOR ANY THING TAKEN FROM IT: ..." (in part)
Actually it is just about a repeat even in Wording, as seen in Rev.'s closing verses!
The verses are a WARNING about adding to or removing any part of the Word of God! And the BOTTOM line is that ones name would be removed from the Book of Life. Now for the rest of the 14th verse. "... THAT MEN SHOULD FEAR BEFORE HIM."
For one to say that the Eccl. verses do not mean what they say, is doing just that!
Now look at the verse following verse 14. Verse 15 says.. "THAT WHICH HAS BEEN IS NOW; AND THAT WHICH IS TO BE HAS ALREADY BEEN; AND GOD REQUIRETH THAT WHICH IS PAST." GOD'S WORD says that it is so!
Take note: If it is not to be, God say that it will not be. Example: 'Sin will not arise a second time' Nah. 1:9. And we all know about the world flood not happening a second time? So, there are so very few times that history does not repeat, and that God does the easy thing for [us] by pointing out the lesser number. (by the way, Rev. is full of O.T. Sanctuary! see Ps. 77:13)
If anyone would BELIEVE THE *GODHEAD'S INSPIRED WORD (ALL OF IT! See 2 Tim. 3:16 & Matt. 4:4) they would find Few reasons for mixed up doctrinal folds.
But the bottom line is that even the Virgin Fold is going after the fate of Virgin Israel of old!! (same history) They are once again Christ/less. See Rev. 3:9 or Rev. 17:5! And the nasty repeat for them is VERIFIED in Eze. 9.
Try reading Rev. 12:17 S-L-O-W-L-E-Y! And in Christ's day, who do you think took over the 'DESOLATE' fold that Christ was put out of? It was Christ that stated that 'Your house (fold) is left unto you DESOLATE'. Matt. 23:38.
So, this is what will be the final fate of Spiritual Virgin Israel! (the 666 thing'y is for the world's testing) See 1 Peter 4:17 FOR WHO IS JUDGED FIRST.
Back to Chapter 1:9-10 of Eccl. Lets check to 'see' (if we can) if God made a mistake?
We do remember that we were told that 'IT SHALL BE FOR EVER and that NOTHING CAN BE PUT TO IT NOR ANYTHING TAKEN FROM IT.' (chapter 3:14-15)
"THE THING THAT HATH BEEN IS THAT WHICH SHALL BE; AND THAT WHICH IS DONE IS THAT WHICH SHALL BE DONE: AND THERE IS (NOTHING) *NO NEW THING UNDER THE SUN. v.9
IS THERE [*ANY THING] WHERE OF IT MAY BE SAID, SEE, THIS IS NEW? [IT HATH BEEN ALREADY OF OLD TIME, WHICH WAS BEFORE US.]" v.10
Now what are we going to hear, huh??
Notice that after the GodHead's question, that Their Inspiration came quickly before 'ignorant' man could botch up the question!! But what does one hear today?? Should we do the 'foolish' (Matt. 25) thing and read & study the 'earthly' educated ones reams & reams of commentaries, with hardly any two alike?? (false fold/wise at least)
Lets just add another 'documented' fact here with these two verses.
In Gen. 41:32 the Lord gave Pharaoh a vision 'TWICE'.[/color] (remember now, that we see TWICE at least in the Eccl. 1:9-10 & Eccl. 3:15 that history is to be repeated) Also note that God has 'inspired' this thought ... "And for that the dream was [doubled] unto Pharaoh [twice]; it is [because the thing is established by God], and God will shortly bring it to pass.
So bottom line: If you want to know Truth, find it in the past history for the furture history to be! All the way from the 666 test to where God 'tested' His own in the past before they were to enter their land of their Canaan. And the crucifixion of Christ a second time? See Heb. 6:6!
--Elijah
