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Repulicans pushing official Ten Commandments weekend

I'm not an American citizen, however...

I would support this move. I do not think it violates the first amendment, as much of the basis for the law/social values and core principles in the United States (and many other western countries for that matter) is based on the Ten Commandments. So if these values/laws are allowed, then why not a Ten Commandments Day? Why not take a day in the year to look back to our roots? Might get some skeptics thinking. :chin

About the National Day of Prayer....I'm also supporting it. However I know little details about what religions it's aimed at.
 
Nick said:
I'm not an American citizen, however...

I would support this move. I do not think it violates the first amendment, as much of the basis for the law/social values and core principles in the United States (and many other western countries for that matter) is based on the Ten Commandments. So if these values/laws are allowed, then why not a Ten Commandments Day? Why not take a day in the year to look back to our roots? Might get some skeptics thinking. :chin

About the National Day of Prayer....I'm also supporting it. However I know little details about what religions it's aimed at.
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Think about the first two commandments, I don't think they jive with freedom of religion in America, personally I think it is a waste of money and time. I thought tea partiers wanted less government?
 
taromina2003 said:
Think about the first two commandments, I don't think they jive with freedom of religion in America, personally I think it is a waste of money and time. I thought tea partiers wanted less government?
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Well that is true that they are Christian values, of course. And I'm not so keen on the first amendment anyway ;)

However, it is part of the US's history and values, and I don't think it woudl be a bad thing. Then again I can think of many more things that money could be spent on. Health and education would be top of my list.

And I try not to think about the tea party too much.
 
I tried to do a search for "days of recognition" that are endorsed by the U.S. government, but I came up empty. With all of the days that are "National ---- Awareness Day" for one reason or another, I would guess there are some endorsed our government that don't represent all of America. So, why not have a Ten Commandments Day?
 
Nick said:
I'm not an American citizen, however...

I would support this move. I do not think it violates the first amendment, as much of the basis for the law/social values and core principles in the United States (and many other western countries for that matter) is based on the Ten Commandments. So if these values/laws are allowed, then why not a Ten Commandments Day? Why not take a day in the year to look back to our roots? Might get some skeptics thinking. :chin

About the National Day of Prayer....I'm also supporting it. However I know little details about what religions it's aimed at.
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I too support national prayer day. I believe it is for all religions in USA.
 
Mike said:
I tried to do a search for "days of recognition" that are endorsed by the U.S. government, but I came up empty. With all of the days that are "National ---- Awareness Day" for one reason or another, I would guess there are some endorsed our government that don't represent all of America. So, why not have a Ten Commandments Day?
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Good points.
 
Maybe I missed something. Ok, official Ten commandments weekend. And then what? What does it mean? What happenes? Do federal workers get another day off? Oh, this site does not seem slow at all to me, in fact it is faster than some other forums I visit.
 
Riverwolf said:
Maybe I missed something. Ok, official Ten commandments weekend. And then what? What does it mean? What happenes? Do federal workers get another day off? Oh, this site does not seem slow at all to me, in fact it is faster than some other forums I visit.
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I think it's just my stinkin old computer!:bigfrown

But anyway it is to be observed on a weekend. I'm not sure what exactly the point of it is either.
 
Ten commandments day sounds like propoganda. Why do people who think like this always appear to be republicans? The Old Testament laws are a testimony to the sin in mankind, not for the sake of giving lip service to God. Therefore it would be hypocritical to celebrate this "Ten Commandments" day as if anybody ever kept these commandments. Love fufills the law, not the law fulfills Love. I have nothing against the laws as long as people know it was instituted for those who don't abide in Love.
 
childeye said:
Ten commandments day sounds like propoganda. Why do people who think like this always appear to be republicans? The Old Testament laws are a testimony to the sin in mankind, not for the sake of giving lip service to God. Therefore it would be hypocritical to celebrate this "Ten Commandments" day as if anybody ever kept these commandments. Love fufills the law, not the law fulfills Love. I have nothing against the laws as long as people know it was instituted for those who don't abide in Love.
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Are there any of them you disagree with? Rhetorical question. Yes, we have His Grace, but it is wrong that sometimes I create idols that I'm not aware of, and I need to shift my focus. Anyway, I don't think too much needs to be read into a proposal such as this. Any reminder of God's Authority would serve as an discussion starter at least.
 
Mike said:
Are there any of them you disagree with? Rhetorical question. Yes, we have His Grace, but it is wrong that sometimes I create idols that I'm not aware of, and I need to shift my focus. Anyway, I don't think too much needs to be read into a proposal such as this. Any reminder of God's Authority would serve as an discussion starter at least.
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I't's the implications that bother me. Those implications are that righteousness can be ascertained by doing them. A false truth which deceives the masses and hides the Gospel truth.
 
childeye said:
I't's the implications that bother me. Those implications are that righteousness can be ascertained by doing them. A false truth which deceives the masses and hides the Gospel truth.
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Or it can lead one to the Gospel. There would be no NT if there was not an OT.
 
theLords said:
Or it can lead one to the Gospel. There would be no NT if there was not an OT.
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Clever statement. Can I come up with a clever rebuttle? Let's see errr, Jesus died to put away the Old Testament? Not bad. Why not have a knowledge of sin day? Or maybe Condemnation day?
 
childeye said:
Clever statement. Can I come up with a clever rebuttle? Let's see errr, Jesus died to put away the Old Testament? Not bad. Why not have a knowledge of sin day? Or maybe Condemnation day?
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There doesn't need to be a clever rebuttle.
The OT has always pointed to the NT and to Jesus. Jesus did not abolish the Law - he fulfilled th Law. Yes, we are under Christ not the Law, but how are we to live in response to Jesus' sacrifice for us? Ten commandments are a good start, and if you look in the NT, very similar stuff is said in the Gospels and the letters.

The point of the Ten Commandments day is to reflect upon the United State's values system. The whole of the West's history is very involved with Christianity, and specifically the Ten Commandments. The day is not about condemming sinners etc. From what I've seen, it's not exactly a Gospel day, although it could indeed stir up some discussions, as it is indeed doing right now.
 
I don't see how this idea would violate the first amendment because it isn't "making a law respecting the establishment of religion" but I also don't see any real purpose in doing this either. It sounds more like just rhetoric gesture than anything else and I think our lawmakers should be focusing on the task at hand and fixing the mess they've already created.
 
Does it violate God's requirements is the question?? (MARK 12:17) And a weekend only? It seems to me that it was Caesar who was needed to execute Christ, they cried 'WE HAVE NO KING BUT CAESAR'. Why was Ceasar needed???

--Elijah
 
Elijah674 said:
Does it violate God's requirements is the question?? (MARK 12:17) And a weekend only? It seems to me that it was Caesar who was needed to execute Christ, they cried 'WE HAVE NO KING BUT CAESAR'. Why was Ceasar needed???

--Elijah
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Romans:13
13:1 Let every person be subject to the governing authorities. For there is no authority except from God, and those that exist have been instituted by God. 2 Therefore whoever resists the authorities resists what God has appointed, and those who resist will incur judgment. 3 For rulers are not a terror to good conduct, but to bad. Would you have no fear of the one who is in authority? Then do what is good, and you will receive his approval, 4 for he is God's servant for your good. But if you do wrong, be afraid, for he does not bear the sword in vain. For he is the servant of God, an avenger who carries out God's wrath on the wrongdoer. 5 Therefore one must be in subjection, not only to avoid God's wrath but also for the sake of conscience. 6 For because of this you also pay taxes, for the authorities are ministers of God, attending to this very thing. 7 Pay to all what is owed to them: taxes to whom taxes are owed, revenue to whom revenue is owed, respect to whom respect is owed, honor to whom honor is owed.
 
childeye said:
Clever statement. Can I come up with a clever rebuttle? Let's see errr, Jesus died to put away the Old Testament? Not bad. Why not have a knowledge of sin day? Or maybe Condemnation day?
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Errrrr, what?

Matthew 5:17 (KJV)
Think not that I am come to destroy the law, or the prophets: I am not come to destroy, but to fulfil.

John 3:17 (KJV)
For God sent not his Son into the world to condemn the world; but that the world through him might be saved.
 
WIP said:
I don't see how this idea would violate the first amendment because it isn't "making a law respecting the establishment of religion" but I also don't see any real purpose in doing this either. It sounds more like just rhetoric gesture than anything else and I think our lawmakers should be focusing on the task at hand and fixing the mess they've already created.
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It's all very well for me to sit here in Australia (well actually I'm currentliy in the UK but that's beside the point) and say that it's a "nice" thing to do, and a good gesture and what not. But our economy is chugging along quite nicely and we haven't been in recession for almost 20 years. But the US and the UK really do need to focus on spending money very wisely at this point, and I would think that more capital investment needs to be undertaken rather than awareness days.
 
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