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Desire to be a vessel of honor unto the Lord Jesus Christ?
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Taking the time to pray? Christ is the answer in times of need
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Depending upon the Holy Spirit for all you do?
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How are famous preachers sometimes effected by sin?
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[__ Prayer __] Revival is breaking out !
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What free said and I myself isn't limited to a few .my county is small .not as small as it was thirty years ago but I know the old church persons . I run into them people.
I pass three pentacostals churches to go to mine.two literally are next to each other and share a history.God is in that ?
East of that is a church I had been to for revival .one of five .now it's the only one .irc .
They might have their radio ministry .
I pass three pentacostals churches to go to mine.two literally are next to each other and share a history.God is in that ?
East of that is a church I had been to for revival .one of five .now it's the only one .irc .
They might have their radio ministry .
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Living in the past, with unforgiveness and bitterness towards those who didn’t live up to our expectations will cause us to miss what God is doing in our lives today.
It’s the curse of not seeing when good comes.
Thus says the LORD:
“Cursed is the man who trusts in man
And makes flesh his strength,
Whose heart departs from the LORD.
For he shall be like a shrub in the desert,
And shall not see when good comes,
But shall inhabit the parched places in the wilderness,
In a salt land which is not inhabited.
“Blessed is the man who trusts in the LORD,
And whose hope is the LORD.
For he shall be like a tree planted by the waters,
Which spreads out its roots by the river,
And will not fear when heat comes;
But its leaf will be green,
And will not be anxious in the year of drought,
Nor will cease from yielding fruit.
Jeremiah 17:5-8
And I should just ignore the fact that Paul commanded one not to openly speak in tongues in church ,not even pray .keep silent unless it's a interpreted ?
All that I mentioned do not obey that .
Or how about the fact that I. Titus the qualifucations of a elder pastor ,is a man not a women .
Yet these All ,teach that The Holy Ghost keds women to be elders .
I made it clear with three of the churches I attended as a member so to speak that they weren't apostate .but you can't ignore how far out it gets .
Ever laugh in the Spirit ?
Yup in church in worship .done it .
Ever also sing in that in worship ?
Yup done it.
I can't say they still do that .last time I went .It wasn't . I just know what pentacostals do from experience .you really think that all of sudden the nar thing just came out .it's been around since 1900 in some shape .
The Spanish church I haven't worshipped with .my pastor being fluent in spanish has and played bass .I don't hear him calling them apostate and they have held healing services and prayer vigils .
The last one was the day trump was raided for his classified materials.
It was a fast and prayer time .
Most but not all of the churches I mentioned ,save the three by my church were one the old city utility grid .
It's not good when I have to warn them pay or be cut off .that's a problem .
Just because I criticize the things I now see with pentacostals doesn't mean I operate in bitterness .
I wasnt burned by it but as it happens .I moved on and for good or bad I am fed in my current church.pentacostals or not there is a problem of moving around too much and not planting .
I did that for a bit and decided no more .unless driven out or led to go. I won't exit my reformed church .
Not even close Jason. Paul never told anyone not to pray in the Spirit in Church, that is just absolutely nonsense.
But now, brethren, if I come to you speaking with tongues, what shall I profit you unless I speak to you either by revelation, by knowledge, by prophesying, or by teaching? Even things without life, whether flute or harp, when they make a sound, unless they make a distinction in the sounds, how will it be known what is piped or played? For if the trumpet makes an uncertain sound, who will prepare for battle? So likewise you, unless you utter by the tongue words easy to understand, how will it be known what is spoken? For you will be speaking into the air. There are, it may be, so many kinds of languages in the world, and none of them is without significance. Therefore, if I do not know the meaning of the language, I shall be a foreigner to him who speaks, and he who speaks will be a foreigner to me. Even so you, since you are zealous for spiritual gifts, let it be for the edification of the church that you seek to excel.
Therefore let him who speaks in a tongue pray that he may interpret. For if I pray in a tongue, my spirit prays, but my understanding is unfruitful. What is the conclusion then? I will pray with the spirit, and I will also pray with the understanding. I will sing with the spirit, and I will also sing with the understanding.
1 Corinthians 14:6-15
Standing up in a church addressing the congregation in tongues, without a revelation, or knowledge or teaching does the congregation no good.
These folks needed some correction and guidance, and Paul patiently did so.
What Paul did warn us about, and told us to stay away from, is those who deny the power we receive from the baptism with the Holy Spirit.
having a form of godliness but denying its power. And from such people turn away! 2 Timothy 3:5
But you shall receive power when the Holy Spirit has come upon you; and you shall be witnesses to Me in Jerusalem, and in all Judea and Samaria, and to the end of the earth.” Acts 1:8
This is a direct reference to the baptism with the Holy Spirit with the evidence of speaking in tongues.
JLB
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When "revival" happens, that is, when the Holy Spirit moves with power upon people, convicting them of their sin, illuminating their minds and hearts to the falsity and compromise in their lives, and strengthening them to repent, confess and submit to His control, it is a work that spans all generations. I am immediately concerned by the fact that there are so few adults in the "revival" in Kentucky. Young adults are, by virtue of their youth, drawn to the sensational, to the stimulating, to what excites them. This is, in part, why it is so important for older adults, especially ones mature in the faith, well-secured in a deep, rich experience of God, to be involved in the "revival," praying for, and overseeing this "movement of God," and constraining its character within biblical boundaries.
What's always so sad about these events is that they are necessary. Were these kids properly discipled in their faith, they would not need revival. Far too often, though, young adults are just offered information about God, but are not surrounded by older adults in whom the Person of Christ is clearly seen and whose lives are in a constant process of transformation, the power of the Spirit working mightily in and through them. These young adults are led into a Christianity of cold facts, or of hyper-emotion, neither being the abundant life of fellowship with God promised to them in Scripture. Older believers don't lead them into a deeper, personal experience of God because they don't themselves have such an experience of Him. Eventually, "revival" is required. These days, though, "revival" is often no such thing, but just hyper-charismaticism, a search for God by sensual, fleshly means.
What's always so sad about these events is that they are necessary. Were these kids properly discipled in their faith, they would not need revival. Far too often, though, young adults are just offered information about God, but are not surrounded by older adults in whom the Person of Christ is clearly seen and whose lives are in a constant process of transformation, the power of the Spirit working mightily in and through them. These young adults are led into a Christianity of cold facts, or of hyper-emotion, neither being the abundant life of fellowship with God promised to them in Scripture. Older believers don't lead them into a deeper, personal experience of God because they don't themselves have such an experience of Him. Eventually, "revival" is required. These days, though, "revival" is often no such thing, but just hyper-charismaticism, a search for God by sensual, fleshly means.
No.
Thirty people speaking loudly so loud the musicians are overridden that you can't hear the guitar
And no one understanding then why would Paul command pray for interpretation?
Just let it be chaos ?
Your own verses says let them pray for interpretation.
I have heard my pastor then say no,not all these tounges are to legit .
And stop that.
You really haven't heard how loud people are .they get loud . Go to black churches they are loud.
Not quiet in praying but you won't need an amp to hear it.
.that's what Paul means and the church is edified by that
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Jason, and Free, I had a curious thought this morning after reading through this thread, so I created another one. Tell me what you think. Not looking for a debate, just an exchange of thought. I've been around too long to get worked up over this particular subject anyway.
God bless,
- H
Is no interpreter the end of the world?
In general, I agree with the apostle Paul's teaching that interpretation of tongues should be provided for unbeliever's sake, "lest they think we are mad," as he put it. But I just made a curious observation this morning. They thought the apostles were drunk on the day of Pentecost as well, and...
Sounds like there is some immaturity there.
This certainly doesnt mean those people are demon possessed.
What I posted is the norm if they are actually openly allowing it
The ones that don't see in fact the church that Alissa Childers mentioned .chuck smiths calvary chapel movement .a revival .no one openly does that . They claim to be pentacostal .
Pentacostal churches are not seeking quiet worship .
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This is a criticism of Chuck Smith .note cc is pentacostal.
To me when i went to the local one and listened to several live or recorded they weren't what i was used to
Thank God!
Make a joyful shout to the LORD, all you lands! Serve the LORD with gladness; Come before His presence with singing. Psalm 101:1-2
You didn't read that in what I'm used to hearing .
Given my hearing .I couldn't attend the old church .
So loud your ears hurt.three hours of it.
My context of that with the shouts ,and tounge speaking is what I compared it too .
Try worshipping with Jamaican Calypso style music and a key board in a tiny wood frame one hundred years old church .no amps .
Calypso is loud .
Most white pentacostals aren't like that .
Also you have loud worship in non charismatic churches.i should post the loud Haitian worship in the old wabasso church .they aren't to my knowledge pentacostals
I couldn’t take it.
For me, when the presence of the Holy Spirit begins to fill the meeting during worship, I tend to want to get quieter in worship so not to grieve him.
No thanks.
I don’t care for soulish banging and clanging, however if it is inspired by the Spirit it would be beautiful.
Any fleshly, or soulish worship tends to grieve my heart.
JLB