Sabbath is Saturday - Lord's Day is Future. < PERIOD

[tim-from-pa]

I think it's time for you to address the OP.

OK. The OP is correct. I agree with it. I was pointing out the scriptures quoted taken out of context that have to do with something else so to not add confusion to the mix. No need to make things more complicated than they are.

 

[Sinthesis]

Col 2:16-17

Let no man therefore judge you in meat, or in drink, or in respect of an holyday, or of the new moon, or of the sabbathdays: Which are a shadow of things to come; but the body is of Christ.

 

[jasoncran]

Col 2:16-17

Let no man therefore judge you in meat, or in drink, or in respect of an holyday, or of the new moon, or of the sabbathdays: Which are a shadow of things to come; but the body is of Christ.

agreed, I have done channukah and will also do Christmas. feel free do one or the other or none.

 

[Rollo Tamasi]

And again, to point this out, consider the context of that passage. Paul was not talking about the Jewish calendar and sacred days. The subject was about eating meat offered to idols, weaker brother, etc.

I don't see food offered to idols anywhere in this chapter.
So I don't know what you are trying to interpret.
What I see is Jewish fasts and festivals not being observed by Gentiles, thus causing a problem.
Paul addresses the food and the days concerning these fasts and festivals.
As he had to address the Sabbath to the Galatians, he had to address the fasts and festivals to the Romans.

 

[Tristan]

I'm a Saturday keeper. Saturday is the Sabbath, however the Sabbath was made for man, not man for the Sabbath. It is not a salvation issue. The purpose of the Sabbath is eternal.

 

[The Light]

Good morning, where is everyone this fine Sunday morning? It’s the Sabbath you say? Oh my no; that ended at 6:00 PM Saturday evening. So what are you doing? Assembling together on what many would like to call the Lord’s Day. You've got to be kidding; that’s future when Jesus puts down all rule and authority. Hmmm.

If we take off the glasses of modern tradition and current societial perception and look at what is written in the scriptures, it does seem pretty clear that Sabbath was the 7th day and according to how they kept time in the OT, it seems to have began at sunset Friday and lasted until sunset Saturday.

As far as our Christian assembly is concerned, I am at a loss for finding any scriptural mandate concerning when and how frequently we are to assemble.

And when we think about what the Lord's Day is; isn't everyday the day the Lord has made that we should rejoice and be glad in? I do not think we have the scriptural "firepower" to declare any specific day of the week as being "The Lord's Day."

 

[TOG]

As far as our Christian assembly is concerned, I am at a loss for finding any scriptural mandate concerning when and how frequently we are to assemble

The way I look at it, since there is, as you say, no scriptural mandate that changes the Sabbath, then the Sabbath commandment is still valid. If we are going to go by what Scripture says, we should meet once a week on the Sabbath (sunset Friday to sunset Saturday). But that's just the minimum. There's nothing that says we can't meet more often or on other days as well. Doesn't the Bible say that the first disciples met every day?

The TOG​

 

[jasoncran]

The way I look at it, since there is, as you say, no scriptural mandate that changes the Sabbath, then the Sabbath commandment is still valid. If we are going to go by what Scripture says, we should meet once a week on the Sabbath (sunset Friday to sunset Saturday). But that's just the minimum. There's nothing that says we can't meet more often or on other days as well. Doesn't the Bible say that the first disciples met every day?

The TOG​

so is the penalty for failing to do the shabat and also defining what work is

 

[By Grace]

Good morning, where is everyone this fine Sunday morning? It’s the Sabbath you say? Oh my no; that ended at 6:00 PM Saturday evening. So what are you doing? Assembling together on what many would like to call the Lord’s Day. You've got to be kidding; that’s future when Jesus puts down all rule and authority. Hmmm.

How’s this for Bible Study? Remember that this is not a debate forum, and I’ll consider any disagreement or objection other than discussion so just be sure and remember someone running around with a rolling pin.

How quickly this thread turned into a debate!

Would it be a derail to suggest that according to my understanding of the Bible to state that Saturday is indeed the Sabbath in which we rest; but Sunday is the Lord's Day, the day that the New Testament Christians are to worship?

 

[JLB]

The way I look at it, since there is, as you say, no scriptural mandate that changes the Sabbath, then the Sabbath commandment is still valid. If we are going to go by what Scripture says, we should meet once a week on the Sabbath (sunset Friday to sunset Saturday). But that's just the minimum. There's nothing that says we can't meet more often or on other days as well. Doesn't the Bible say that the first disciples met every day?

The TOG​

How much travel is involved in this?

How much work and preparation by the church leadership is involved in a "Sabbath" church service.

The Church leadership is to work on the Sabbath to do there job?

The Sabbath was fulfilled in Christ.

He is our rest.


JLB