Salvation Basics - Eternal life

[NewLifeInChrist]

Brother, It is our understanding from the scriptures that: https://christianforums.net/threads/the-christian-goal-is-to-be-born-into-the-kingdom.101577/

Love, Walter And Debbie

I take this to mean that you are not aware of the fact that God gives birth to us by His Spirit when He comes to live in our hearts. And the link you provided indicates you believe it is earned at the end of a life well lived.

If I'm right, you'll probably object to the thread I just started -- Salvation Basics - Born of God

 

[NewLifeInChrist]

Knowing is a Hebrew term of intimacy. It's beautiful.

When we are joined to the LORD and are one spirit with Him, this is knowing Him.

But he who is joined to the Lord is one spirit with Him. 1 Corinthians 6:17

Are you a part of a denomination that teaches such things? If so, can you point me to some resources that may help me understand your background?

 

[WalterandDebbie]

It does not make sense to say on one hand that we must have eternal life in order to be able to walk in the Spirit (which we are commanded to do here and now) and to say on the other hand that we do not gain eternal life until the end of our life on earth.

Yes in His Kingdom.

Love, Walter

 

[WalterandDebbie]

I take this to mean that you are not aware of the fact that God gives birth to us by His Spirit when He comes to live in our hearts.

yes, I'm aware.

 

[WalterandDebbie]

And the link you provided indicates you believe it is earned at the end of a life well lived.

No, it is not earned.

Love, Walter

 

[JLB]

Are you a part of a denomination that teaches such things? If so, can you point me to some resources that may help me understand your background?

No denomination.


What things are you referring to?

I posted this scripture to show that "knowing" is mutual. I said this is response to your statement that said -

This passage in John makes no mention of us knowing Him.

I used parabolic imagery (earthly things) to make my point just as Jesus and Paul did. Knowing is not a one sided thing when we are joined to the LORD and one spirit with Him, it is a mutual knowing; joining as one is mutual.

But he who is joined to the Lord is one spirit with Him. 1 Corinthians 6:17

When we see the context Paul was referring to it's becomes more clear.

Do you not know that your bodies are members of Christ? Shall I then take the members of Christ and make them members of a harlot? Certainly not! Or do you not know that he who is joined to a harlot is one body with her? For “the two,” He says, “shall become one flesh.” But he who is joined to the Lord is one spirit with Him.
Flee sexual immorality. Every sin that a man does is outside the body, but he who commits sexual immorality sins against his own body. Or do you not know that your body is the temple of the Holy Spirit who is in you, whom you have from God, and you are not your own? For you were bought at a price; therefore glorify God in your body and in your spirit, which are God’s. 1 Corinthians 6:15-20



JLB

 

[NewLifeInChrist]

No denomination.

What things are you referring to?

I posted this scripture to show that "knowing" is mutual. I said this is response to your statement that said -

I used parabolic imagery (earthly things) to make my point just as Jesus and Paul did. Knowing is not a one sided thing when we are joined to the LORD and one spirit with Him, it is a mutual knowing; joining as one is mutual.

But he who is joined to the Lord is one spirit with Him. 1 Corinthians 6:17

When we see the context Paul was referring to it's becomes more clear.

Do you not know that your bodies are members of Christ? Shall I then take the members of Christ and make them members of a harlot? Certainly not! Or do you not know that he who is joined to a harlot is one body with her? For “the two,” He says, “shall become one flesh.” But he who is joined to the Lord is one spirit with Him.
Flee sexual immorality. Every sin that a man does is outside the body, but he who commits sexual immorality sins against his own body. Or do you not know that your body is the temple of the Holy Spirit who is in you, whom you have from God, and you are not your own? For you were bought at a price; therefore glorify God in your body and in your spirit, which are God’s. 1 Corinthians 6:15-20

JLB

You said in another thread...

"using lexicons and the Strongs Concordance is permitted, especially when we get into defining and understanding biblical words and terms. That being said, we will strive to allow the biblical definition to take precedence."​

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Another user on the thread used very similar language in one of his posts...

I read, believe, teach, dispute by Scripture alone as the beginning and final say on how Bible words are defined. It's letting God define His own words by how He defines and uses them in Scripture.​

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Example: Wisdom is exactly defined by God:​

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Job 28:28And unto man he said, Behold, the fear of the Lord, that is wisdom; and to depart from evil is understanding.​

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You and he make the same mistake. You both think when the Bible says "A" is "B" that it constitutes a definition, which of course it does not. And I wonder if you both being from the same city is a coincidence or if there is some sort of association between the two of you that teaches this sort of reasoning.