What's new
By:
Filters
Christian Forums

This is a sample guest message. Register a free account today to become a member! Once signed in, you'll be able to participate on this site by adding your own topics and posts, as well as connect with other members through your own private inbox!

Should preachers live like kings?

D

Dave Slayer

Guest
Should preachers live like kings?

[youtube:3ryf179b]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w6Tx_EqVmzw[/youtube:3ryf179b]

[youtube:3ryf179b]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NSxqFE_hmcE[/youtube:3ryf179b]
 
I remember one time I saw Benny Henn lamenting that he was going to have to sell one of his Mercedes. In contrst, Jesus told the rich man to sell all he had and give to the poor. Guess who I'm going to listen to?
 
Neither one of these wolves preaches Christ anyway...all they are is money makers....I don't know if I'd call them "preachers", more like CON MEN :bigfrown
 
no, however, if a church is big enought to need a full time staff then they should pay the pastor within reason

jason
 
Jesus didnt so why should they?

Although I agree with jasoncran.......The laborer is worthy of his hire, but a modest one in line with
the norm of the congregation...
 
Aurora said:
Jesus didnt so why should they?

Although I agree with jasoncran.......The laborer is worthy of his hire, but a modest one in line with
the norm of the congregation...
Click to expand...

Ya, they could stay at a Motel 6 or a Holiday Inn rather than rooms with 100 foot pools. :D
 
They shouldn't live like kings, but that's not to say that they sould be living in poverty. No one should live in poverty. They should get paid for the work they do, but it shouldn't be about the money. It should be about the love, and I agree with Caroline that some of these 'preachers' may have their priorities mixed up.
 
Take Tithes or Receive Tithes.

There is a higher order then this; under not the law but grace; not under the old Levical order but the Melchisedec order.

When ever there is a ministry out there that takes tithes I know they are trusting men for there livelihood and not God. All the ministries I support will give you God’s Word; and never; I mean never ask or beg for money.

They will send boxes of tapes; what ever you ask. As well as literature that will take you six month to a year to read if you read thirty pages a day; a never take a dime; yes they will receive; but not take. They have no Hugh denomination or system to support them; only their faith in God will provide every need; some do not even have local bodies; yet god will provide. These men and women of God serve thousands of God’s people; And God takes care of them beyond your imagination.

Hebrews 7:5And verily they that are of the sons of Levi, who receive the office of the priesthood, have a commandment to take tithes of the people according to the law, that is, of their brethren, though they come out of the loins of Abraham:
6But he whose descent is not counted from them received tithes of Abraham, and blessed him that had the promises.
7And without all contradiction the less is blessed of the better.
8And here men that die receive tithes; but there he receiveth them, of whom it is witnessed that he liveth.
 
Benoni said:
Take Tithes or Receive Tithes.

There is a higher order then this; under not the law but grace; not under the old Levical order but the Melchisedec order.

When ever there is a ministry out there that takes tithes I know they are trusting men for there livelihood and not God. All the ministries I support will give you God’s Word; and never; I mean never ask or beg for money.

They will send boxes of tapes; what ever you ask. As well as literature that will take you six month to a year to read if you read thirty pages a day; a never take a dime; yes they will receive; but not take. They have no Hugh denomination or system to support them; only their faith in God will provide every need; some do not even have local bodies; yet god will provide. These men and women of God serve thousands of God’s people; And God takes care of them beyond your imagination.

Hebrews 7:5And verily they that are of the sons of Levi, who receive the office of the priesthood, have a commandment to take tithes of the people according to the law, that is, of their brethren, though they come out of the loins of Abraham:
6But he whose descent is not counted from them received tithes of Abraham, and blessed him that had the promises.
7And without all contradiction the less is blessed of the better.
8And here men that die receive tithes; but there he receiveth them, of whom it is witnessed that he liveth.
Click to expand...

So tithing is unscriptural for New Testament believers? Aren't we supposed to tithe 10% of our income unto the Lord by the Church taking up an offering?
 
Dave Slayer said:
Benoni said:
Take Tithes or Receive Tithes.

There is a higher order then this; under not the law but grace; not under the old Levical order but the Melchisedec order.

When ever there is a ministry out there that takes tithes I know they are trusting men for there livelihood and not God. All the ministries I support will give you God’s Word; and never; I mean never ask or beg for money.

They will send boxes of tapes; what ever you ask. As well as literature that will take you six month to a year to read if you read thirty pages a day; a never take a dime; yes they will receive; but not take. They have no Hugh denomination or system to support them; only their faith in God will provide every need; some do not even have local bodies; yet god will provide. These men and women of God serve thousands of God’s people; And God takes care of them beyond your imagination.

Hebrews 7:5And verily they that are of the sons of Levi, who receive the office of the priesthood, have a commandment to take tithes of the people according to the law, that is, of their brethren, though they come out of the loins of Abraham:
6But he whose descent is not counted from them received tithes of Abraham, and blessed him that had the promises.
7And without all contradiction the less is blessed of the better.
8And here men that die receive tithes; but there he receiveth them, of whom it is witnessed that he liveth.
Click to expand...

So tithing is unscriptural for New Testament believers? Aren't we supposed to tithe 10% of our income unto the Lord by the Church taking up an offering?
Click to expand...


In the OT this was true; under the order of Melchizededek God's anointed receive tithes. Most all ministrys follow the Aaron's approach to tithing; I know of only a few who do not.
 
Tithing is unscriptural and so are salaries.

We are to share all good things with all, especially those who teach. Its not a salary, it simple ,means that we meet their needs (not their lusts)

God does not demand a tithe from us, he actually demands ALL you have. He loves a cheerful giver.

2Co 9:7 Let each man do according as he hath purposed in his heart: not grudgingly, or of necessity: for God loveth a cheerful giver.

So, NO TITHE ! You must purpose in your heart how much. Not grudgingly, or because you MUST (necessity) but because you love to give cheerfully (like God also gives cheerfully ; be like Him )
 
Do you trust TV preachers who ask for money?

Do you trust TV preachers who ask for money and promise blessings for doing so?
 
Re: Do you trust TV preachers who ask for money?

NO!

I do not watch any of them. Only the ones from our church !
 
I think I need to say this...I don't understand why people are so obsessed with what another makes....consider this, when we "judge" these in the OP, determining if they live in excess or not, aren't we just showing our own bias, our own fleshly desires? Our own lack of trust that God will provide?

When we proclaim that a pastor should be paid this or that, isn't it our own flesh that we are looking to for the answers, not God?

If God, in His wisdom allows Copeland and Hinn, and others to acquire great wealth, even on the fleecing of the flock, isn't it His responsibility? If God in His wisdom allows a pastor to live in great poverty, isn't He still the one who gives good gifts? When do we stop worrying about what others have or don't have and start exercising faith over what we have, even if what we have is our own pride and opinions?

~just talking in general, not to anyone in particular, me included~

Point is this, when we are above reproach, we have the right to question what God in HIs wisdom has allowed. Until then, there are things still hidden from us, things we ourselves need to understand...about wealth and want, trust and authority...seems to me we should not be asking if it is right for these men to live in wealth or poverty, but rather what can we learn from them about God and our own Godliness....

Hint: when you serve God for poverty wages, you learn a lot about money and trust and authority that you only thought you knew before.
 
You must log in or register to reply here.
Back
Top