GodspromisesRyes
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It is true that God look upon the heart and does not judge by outward appearances but this does not mean what it is being claimed here to mean.
That means that God does not favor someone because their clothes are richer or because they wore a suit. It does not mean that God has no care for what our outward appearance is.
It is clear in scripture that what we do outwardly comes from what is in our hearts. If your heart is not given to whoredom you will not walk around dressed like a street walker. The word of God gives us instruction on both inward and outward appearance and behavior. If purity is in our hearts towards God and others we would not walk around naked and say " God only cares about my heart".
What is in our heart is what comes out in our words and actions. We can refuse to conform our appearance to Gods word all day and then say it is ok because God cares about the heart, but what is being missed is that if a persons heart is submissive to God they would conform their inward AND outward appearance to His word. If one is refusing to comply with God or making up reasons why they do not have to- what it reveals is that their heart that God is looking upon is not pure in that matter and they desire more their own way then to be subject to his way.
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Moreso, other things being claimed in this thread are not true. one of them being that in pauls day it was a shame for a woman to be shorn but today it is not ashame and so we dont need to do this today because in our culture it is fine to be shorn.- Firstly it is not true that it is not a shame in our day to be shorn.- How many here have been bald as women?I have been, and society still thinks it a shame. There is a reason why tons of money is spent to make hats and wigs and covers for bald women. Just shave your head and go out bald and see how people look at you. Remember when shenade O connor shaved her head? didnt go over well at first.
Secondly Paul says this: 1Cr 11:2 ¶ Now I praise you, brethren, that ye remember me in all things, and keep the ordinances, as I delivered [them] to you.
1Cr 11:5 But every woman that prayeth or prophesieth with [her] head uncovered dishonoureth her head: for that is even all one as if she were shaven.
1) paul says EVERY WOMAN 2) who doesnt cover for these things DISHONOURS HER HEAD.
He didnt say might dishonour, or in this city dishonours or if the culture says. He states it as a fact that EVERY WOMAN who does this DISHONOURS her head.
1Cr 11:6 For if the woman be not covered, let her also be shorn: but if it be a shame for a woman to be shorn or shaven, let her be covered.
Paul is saying either cover or shave your head- if it is a shame to be shorn then cover. Is it a shame to be shorn ? YES. Not only this but paul telss us that it is NATURE which teaches us this- not culture.
1Cr 11:14 Doth not even nature itself teach you, that, if a man have long hair, it is a shame unto him?
1Cr 11:15 But if a woman have long hair, it is a glory to her: for [her] hair is given her for a covering.
I would like to know for any who do not believe this is for today, are you going to go shave your head and walk around bald? and if not, why not?
Now I have always believed that covering your head should be done in obedience to God by a cheerful heart- and not forced on those who grieve it by men, the problem i have here is that the arguement s people have against it are completely contrary to what the scriptures themselves reveal about it. The word of God is just totally ignored to favor the arguements that people like instead of just believing what is said and either doing it or not. Once people allow themselves to walk by , and teach others to walk by the idea that it is ok to ignore everything in the word of God that we dont favor because of our culture- or throw out the word of God settled in the heavens because we want to think it was just for them and not for us, then we have built up a system where we say let us eat our own bread and wear our own clothes only let us be called by they name.
That means that God does not favor someone because their clothes are richer or because they wore a suit. It does not mean that God has no care for what our outward appearance is.
It is clear in scripture that what we do outwardly comes from what is in our hearts. If your heart is not given to whoredom you will not walk around dressed like a street walker. The word of God gives us instruction on both inward and outward appearance and behavior. If purity is in our hearts towards God and others we would not walk around naked and say " God only cares about my heart".
What is in our heart is what comes out in our words and actions. We can refuse to conform our appearance to Gods word all day and then say it is ok because God cares about the heart, but what is being missed is that if a persons heart is submissive to God they would conform their inward AND outward appearance to His word. If one is refusing to comply with God or making up reasons why they do not have to- what it reveals is that their heart that God is looking upon is not pure in that matter and they desire more their own way then to be subject to his way.
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Moreso, other things being claimed in this thread are not true. one of them being that in pauls day it was a shame for a woman to be shorn but today it is not ashame and so we dont need to do this today because in our culture it is fine to be shorn.- Firstly it is not true that it is not a shame in our day to be shorn.- How many here have been bald as women?I have been, and society still thinks it a shame. There is a reason why tons of money is spent to make hats and wigs and covers for bald women. Just shave your head and go out bald and see how people look at you. Remember when shenade O connor shaved her head? didnt go over well at first.
Secondly Paul says this: 1Cr 11:2 ¶ Now I praise you, brethren, that ye remember me in all things, and keep the ordinances, as I delivered [them] to you.
1Cr 11:5 But every woman that prayeth or prophesieth with [her] head uncovered dishonoureth her head: for that is even all one as if she were shaven.
1) paul says EVERY WOMAN 2) who doesnt cover for these things DISHONOURS HER HEAD.
He didnt say might dishonour, or in this city dishonours or if the culture says. He states it as a fact that EVERY WOMAN who does this DISHONOURS her head.
1Cr 11:6 For if the woman be not covered, let her also be shorn: but if it be a shame for a woman to be shorn or shaven, let her be covered.
Paul is saying either cover or shave your head- if it is a shame to be shorn then cover. Is it a shame to be shorn ? YES. Not only this but paul telss us that it is NATURE which teaches us this- not culture.
1Cr 11:14 Doth not even nature itself teach you, that, if a man have long hair, it is a shame unto him?
1Cr 11:15 But if a woman have long hair, it is a glory to her: for [her] hair is given her for a covering.
I would like to know for any who do not believe this is for today, are you going to go shave your head and walk around bald? and if not, why not?
Now I have always believed that covering your head should be done in obedience to God by a cheerful heart- and not forced on those who grieve it by men, the problem i have here is that the arguement s people have against it are completely contrary to what the scriptures themselves reveal about it. The word of God is just totally ignored to favor the arguements that people like instead of just believing what is said and either doing it or not. Once people allow themselves to walk by , and teach others to walk by the idea that it is ok to ignore everything in the word of God that we dont favor because of our culture- or throw out the word of God settled in the heavens because we want to think it was just for them and not for us, then we have built up a system where we say let us eat our own bread and wear our own clothes only let us be called by they name.