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I was raised in a time and in an area of the country where many men considered it manly to kill animals just for the sake of killing them. They called doing that "sport." And they taught the young boys, as they grew up, to do the same thing. They explained that killing animals was merely we humans "exercising our dominion" as they put it.

The results was a lot of unnecessary killing of animals (and birds) just for the sake of killing them. "Road kills" counted too. Many back then would speed up in order to "score a point" on all critters crossing the road and even score points on stray dogs and cats too.

I now see all that as wrongdoing and outright sin.

Its a blessings how the Lord changes the heart and makes us wiser and better as we read His word and get to know Him better. I found myself braking the other day so I would not hit a young squirrel that had just dashed in front of my truck. I am glad I did that.

I will never again cause any animal death or pain just for the sake of killing the animal.

I read in the newspaper where they closed that disgraceful Ringling Brothers Elephant Show. Good. It was very painful for the elephants. I have read how they "trained" the elephants to do all their tricks and performances and the "training" involved intense pain for the elephants while they were forced to go through their routines.

No, I am not against hunting animals for food. I am against killing them only "for sport" and against killing them "just for the sake of killing them."

No, I am not a pacifist. I believe some wars are justified, for example WW II. But I believe killing and mangling up human bodies in wars ought to be the very last resort after all other solutions have been totally exhausted. "Blessed are the peacemakers for they shall be called sons of God", said the Lord Jesus. That means exactly what it says.

On another subject:
"A righteous man cares for the needs of his animal." Proverbs 12:10
 
:wave2 Hi JAG and welcome to CF.
God created all animals and sea life and saw that it was good, Genesis 1:20-25. Why do people destroy that which God sees as good and also good for us :shame
 
So the Nile crocodile ,boa constrictor,stucco eating and posinious four foot snail Shoukd be left alone in my state despite being an invasive species?

The Nike crocrodIle is a god of death in Egyptian myth and has killed and been killed by hippos.they are in my state. Of ignored the American crocs will die off.

Culling of species will often involve these that can't be eaten and killed for sport.
 
JAG .. said:
No, I am not against hunting animals for food. I am against killing them only "for sport" and against killing them "just for the sake of killing them."
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I agree completely, but I'm not sure many people do this. Just about everyone I know stocks away what they hunt to kill for food. For those who do what you (and I) take issue with, that would be an abuse of the dominion God gave us in Genesis. I think it's the extreme minority of hunters that kill only for enjoyment.
 
jasonc said:
So the Nile crocodile ,boa constrictor,stucco eating and posinious four foot snail Shoukd be left alone in my state despite being an invasive species?

The Nike crocrodIle is a god of death in Egyptian myth and has killed and been killed by hippos.they are in my state. Of ignored the American crocs will die off.

Culling of species will often involve these that can't be eaten and killed for sport.
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I don't see any disagreements between us. My objection was to killing animals "just for the sake of killing them" without a good reason.
My wife and I love T-bone steak but we have never ate one that was still alive. This means that somebody killed the cow so we could enjoy eating T-bone steaks. We eat a lot of chickens too, but never ate a live chicken *smile*, they were all dead, so again somebody killed them so we could enjoy eating them.
 
Mike said:
I agree completely, but I'm not sure many people do this. Just about everyone I know stocks away what they hunt to kill for food. For those who do what you (and I) take issue with, that would be an abuse of the dominion God gave us in Genesis. I think it's the extreme minority of hunters that kill only for enjoyment.
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I agree with you Mike, that few hunters kill just for the enjoyment of killing and that would be an abuse of the dominion God gave us in Genesis. Plus killing "just for the sake of killing" does something bad to the person doing the killing. Why would a good person desire to kill just for the sake of killing?

I generally kill all the snakes I come across, but that's because I fear all snakes, even the so-called "good ones." If I did not fear them, I would not kill them. So whither I am right or wrong on that (about killing the so-called "good snakes") I still have, in my mind, a good reason for killing them. I don't kill them "just for the enjoyment of killing." In fact I hope I never see another snake on my property. I have only killed 2 or 3 in my life and that's plenty for me.
 
jasonc said:
Culling of species will often involve these that can't be eaten and killed for sport.
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I agree that they all cannot be eaten.

I interpret your "killed for sport" to mean you had good reason to kill them, eg. you said "culling" them which is a necessary thing to do.

However to those who equate killing "for sport" with killing "just for the enjoyment of killing them", then I don't agree with doing that.

I don't see how killing animals just for the enjoyment of killing them is harmonious with Christianity. I am NOT saying that you do that, just making a general observation.
 
kiwidan said:
Killing animals for entertainment only is disrespectful to The Most High.
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Hunting for food isn't necessary and is a sport.most eat their kills.

Some culling is a sport like.I have seen photos of 30 ft boas.these are not native to my state.
 
I've never been a trophy hunter but just meat. I've always been a small gamer too. I admit to not eating all the small game, but if not, I always grill it up for my dog.

I don't seek any wildlife just to kill it, but if I run into noxious wildlife and we have a disagreement about a certain piece of real estate, I will kill it or chase it off and consider it OK under the dominion clause.
 
JAG .. said:
I now see all that as wrongdoing and outright sin.

Its a blessings how the Lord changes the heart and makes us wiser and better as we read His word and get to know Him better. I found myself braking the other day so I would not hit a young squirrel that had just dashed in front of my truck. I am glad I did that.

I will never again cause any animal death or pain just for the sake of killing the animal.
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Bingo. I am in 100% agreement. The cavalier attitude toward animal life on the part of many people, Christians and non-Christians alike, utterly disgusts me. The conditions in the meat industry are beyond my comprehension, and avid hunters strike me as seriously mentally ill. Even the treatment of household pets is jaw-dropping to me (I once had a secretary say "I want to die and be reincarnated as one of your cats," so I am perhaps overly-indulgent of my furry children). I am confident that the treatment of animals is one of the primary sins many people are going to have to answer for. As I age, I am becoming almost Buddhist in my attitudes toward animals, to the point of rescuing insects everyone else in the office wants to kill. I don't claim my extreme views are required to be a good Christian, merely that they have become part of who I am as I have matured as a Christian. I have also had several after-death experiences with animals (including one documented in Kim Sheridan's Animals and the Afterlife), which lead me to suspect that there is more to animal consciousness than Christians typically recognize. Just last week, I heard a guest on Christian talk radio confidently assure a caller that none of our pets will be with us in Heaven - based, of course, on his reading of some Bible passage rather than a pretty large mountain of evidence that animal consciousness does survive death.
 
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