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Desire to be a vessel of honor unto the Lord Jesus Christ?
Join For His Glory for a discussion on how
https://christianforums.net/threads/a-vessel-of-honor.110278/
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Taking the time to pray? Christ is the answer in times of need
https://christianforums.net/threads/psalm-70-1-save-me-o-god-lord-help-me-now.108509/
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Depending upon the Holy Spirit for all you do?
Read through the following study by Tenchi for more on this topic
https://christianforums.net/threads/without-the-holy-spirit-we-can-do-nothing.109419/
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How are famous preachers sometimes effected by sin?
Join Sola Scriptura for a discussion on the subject
https://christianforums.net/threads/anointed-preaching-teaching.109331/#post-1912042
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Solo said:
Isaiah 43:10 Ye are my witnesses, saith YHWH, and my servant whom I have chosen: that ye may know and believe me, and understand that I am he: before me there was no God formed, neither shall there be after me.
Yahweh (the Father) has two witnesses that before him there was no Elohim formed before him. These witnesses are his Servant (Yahshua) and Israel.
I believe this means that he is proving that he is the Head of everything, even Yahshua. He brought forth Yahshua, thus he is higher than Yahshua in position (not nature).
He qualifies this duality in the next verse:
Isaiah 43:11 I, even I, am YHWH; and beside me there is no saviour
I don't believe this is nonsense. I believe the Hebrew is significant here, reading Ani, Ani, meaning "I even I" or "I and also I". Duality of Yahweh. Father and Son form the echad.
What?
Also, I don't understand how what I said makes Yahshua higher than the Father...
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Michael A Disciple
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Solo said:
Did God come to redeem mankind and become incarnate?
Is not the Word of God, God the Father?
Is not Jesus the Word of God incarnate?
Does not Isaiah say that Jesus is called Immanuel (God with us), Almighty God, Everlasting Father?
Me:
Hey Solo! This is great! Glad to hear truth being proclaimed.
Did God come to redeem mankind and become incarnate?
Is not the Word of God, God the Father?
Is not Jesus the Word of God incarnate?
Does not Isaiah say that Jesus is called Immanuel (God with us), Almighty God, Everlasting Father?
Me:
Hey Solo! This is great! Glad to hear truth being proclaimed.
Yeah, I figured it was rhetorical, but I couldn't resist. 
I need to do better. Anyway, what would you say about the fact that the Spirit is portrayed as in feminine gender in the Hebrew, but in the neuter in the Greek?
I do associate the Spirit with being part of the echad, but more in terms of power than in a distinct separate person. More of a living manifestation of Yahweh's power and character. Not like Yahshua.
I do not believe Yahshua is merely the middleman in the trinity, and I do not believe anyone is equal with the Father. There is a reason the Father is the Father.
I need to do better. Anyway, what would you say about the fact that the Spirit is portrayed as in feminine gender in the Hebrew, but in the neuter in the Greek?
I do associate the Spirit with being part of the echad, but more in terms of power than in a distinct separate person. More of a living manifestation of Yahweh's power and character. Not like Yahshua.
I do not believe Yahshua is merely the middleman in the trinity, and I do not believe anyone is equal with the Father. There is a reason the Father is the Father.
Psalm 2:12 Kiss the Son, lest he be angry, and ye perish from the way, when his wrath is kindled but a little. Blessed are all they that put their trust in him.
Just had to post it. Also notice the reference to "the way". Yahshua is the Way and the first century followers of Messiah were also known as "followers of the Way".
Psalm 2:7 I will declare the decree: YHWH hath said unto me, Thou art my Son; this day have I begotten thee.
Not the Father. He is the Son.
But do you have any insight concerning my question above? Anyone? Vic, Solo? Potluck? Anybody still alive?
Just had to post it. Also notice the reference to "the way". Yahshua is the Way and the first century followers of Messiah were also known as "followers of the Way".
Psalm 2:7 I will declare the decree: YHWH hath said unto me, Thou art my Son; this day have I begotten thee.
Not the Father. He is the Son.
But do you have any insight concerning my question above? Anyone? Vic, Solo? Potluck? Anybody still alive?
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Michael A Disciple
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wavy said:
Psalm 2:7 I will declare the decree: YHWH hath said unto me, Thou art my Son; this day have I begotten thee.
Not the Father. He is the Son.
Me:
Is not Yeshua YHWH?
Psalm 2:7 I will declare the decree: YHWH hath said unto me, Thou art my Son; this day have I begotten thee.
Not the Father. He is the Son.
Me:
Is not Yeshua YHWH?
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Michael A Disciple
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Ok then if Yeshua is YHWH and YHWH said to his Son, This day I have begotten thee then the Father and Son are one.
Just like Isaiah said:
6: For unto us a child is born, unto us a son is given: and the government shall be upon his shoulder: and his name shall be called Wonderful, Counseller, The mighty God, The everlasting Father, The Prince of Peace. Isaiah 9:6
Part of the prophecy was that "his name will be called Eternal Father". I am fulfilling that prophecy right now!
Yeshua is the Eternal Father! Praise his name forever!
Just like Isaiah said:
6: For unto us a child is born, unto us a son is given: and the government shall be upon his shoulder: and his name shall be called Wonderful, Counseller, The mighty God, The everlasting Father, The Prince of Peace. Isaiah 9:6
Part of the prophecy was that "his name will be called Eternal Father". I am fulfilling that prophecy right now!
Yeshua is the Eternal Father! Praise his name forever!
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Jay T
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I realize that fact.wavy said:
And, that is the main purpose for my being here (and other forums)....to bring to the attention, the Gospel of Jesus Christ...to ...the Christian world, at large.
Without an understanding of what the Bible defines, as sin....How can there be Salvation....from Sin ?
By that, I mean....if Jesus Christ has forgiven us our 'past' sins......why then continue, to commit sin ?
The Bible says, to forsake our sins, NOT CONTINUE TO COMMIT THEM!
Jesus Christ even goes so far as saying: 'go and sin no more'.
I'm now going to make a statement, that very few in the Christian world understands......
The purpose of the Gospel of Jesus Christ is, to bring mankind...back...into the keeping of God's Commandments.
I base that on the Bible Test:
Eccl. 12:13 "Let us hear the conclusion of the whole matter: Fear God, and keep his commandments: for this [is] the whole [duty] of man".
I realize that most people in the Christian world, immediately reject that Bible verse !
Do you ?
Or, are you intelligent enough, to harmonize that Bible verse with everything else, you've read in the Bible ?
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Solo
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Vic said:
Is Jesus God almighty, Father God, the Word, Creator of all things, the First and the Last, the Alpha and Omega, beside him their is no God, King of Kings, and Lord of Lords?
I don't need to speak about the Godhead, the trinity, the oneness unity, the Echad. I need to know whether you believe whether Jesus is God almighty, Father God incarnate. If not, I am on the wrong Christian forum.
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Solo
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Vic said:I do believe Jesus is God. I believe this, as stated in our site's Statement of Faith:Solo said:
I just can't say what you want me to say. I can't say Jesus is the Father. Sorry.
What does Isaiah 9:6 say to you?
6 For a child will be born for us, a son will be given to us, and the government will be on His shoulders. He will be named Wonderful Counselor, Mighty God, Eternal Father, Prince of Peace.
Vic C.
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Solo,Solo said:
you know I try to understand scripture at face value. ;-) 6For unto us a child is born, unto us a son is given: and the government shall be upon his shoulder: and his name shall be called Wonderful, Counsellor, The mighty God, The everlasting Father, The Prince of Peace. (KJ)
6 For a Child is born; to us a Son is given; and the government is on His shoulder; and His name is called Wonderful, Counselor, The Mighty God, The Everlasting Father, The Prince of Peace. (LITV)
6For a Child hath been born to us, A Son hath been given to us, And the princely power is on his shoulder, And He doth call his name Wonderful, Counsellor, Mighty God, Father of Eternity, Prince of Peace. (YLT)
All three say call or called. That suggests to me He will be called by these names. I can't find where Jesus refers to Himself as the Father. He speaks of the Father as though He is another Person and I believe He is. He even calls Him His Father. I'm not inclined to believe Jesus is suggesting He is His own Father.
May I ask, who is speaking here and whom is He speaking to?
Mat 3:17 And lo a voice from heaven, saying, "This is my beloved Son, in whom I am well pleased".
Mat 17:5 While he yet spake, behold, a bright cloud overshadowed them: and behold a voice out of the cloud, which said, "This is my beloved Son, in whom I am well pleased; hear ye him".
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Solo
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Vic said:Solo,Solo said:
6For unto us a child is born, unto us a son is given: and the government shall be upon his shoulder: and his name shall be called Wonderful, Counsellor, The mighty God, The everlasting Father, The Prince of Peace. (KJ)
6 For a Child is born; to us a Son is given; and the government is on His shoulder; and His name is called Wonderful, Counselor, The Mighty God, The Everlasting Father, The Prince of Peace. (LITV)
6For a Child hath been born to us, A Son hath been given to us, And the princely power is on his shoulder, And He doth call his name Wonderful, Counsellor, Mighty God, Father of Eternity, Prince of Peace. (YLT)
All three say call or called. That suggests to me He will be called by these names. I can't find where Jesus refers to Himself as the Father. He speaks of the Father as though He is another Person and I believe He is. He even calls Him His Father. I'm not inclined to believe Jesus is suggesting He is His own Father.
May I ask, who is speaking here and whom is He speaking to?
Mat 3:17 And lo a voice from heaven, saying, "This is my beloved Son, in whom I am well pleased".
Mat 17:5 While he yet spake, behold, a bright cloud overshadowed them: and behold a voice out of the cloud, which said, "This is my beloved Son, in whom I am well pleased; hear ye him".
Who was Jesus before being born of Mary? Before Jesus was the Son, who was he?
Vic C.
Member
He was/is God, the great I am.Solo said:
Micah 5
1 ¶ Now gather yourself together, daughter of a troop; one sets a siege against us. They shall strike the Judge of Israel with a rod on the cheek.
2 And you, Bethlehem Ephratah, being least among the thousands of Judah, out of you He shall come forth to Me to become One ruling in Israel; and His goings forth have been from of old, from the days of eternity. (LITV)
John 8:58 Jesus said unto them, Verily, verily, I say unto you, Before Abraham was, I Am.
Exo 3:13 And Moses said unto God, Behold, when I come unto the children of Israel, and shall say unto them, The God of your fathers hath sent me unto you; and they shall say to me, What is his name? what shall I say unto them?
Exo 3:14 And God said unto Moses, I AM THAT I AM: and he said, Thus shalt thou say unto the children of Israel, I AM hath sent me unto you.