Sin

[elijah23]

Many people are so busy trying to justify their sin, they don’t even ask the question, “What IS sin?”

If they knew what sin was, then they could repent of it and their problems would disappear.

Everybody seems to be too afraid to ask, but let me give some suggestions, anyway: Sexual unchastity, insobriety, and pride, I believe, are high on the list.

 

[childeye]

Many people are so busy trying to justify their sin, they don’t even ask the question, “What IS sin?â€

If they knew what sin was, then they could repent of it and their problems would disappear.

Everybody seems to be too afraid to ask, but let me give some suggestions, anyway: Sexual unchastity, insobriety, and pride, I believe, are high on the list.

I believe pride supercedes and precedes all sin.

 

[elijah23]

I believe pride supercedes and precedes all sin.

Perhaps, but does it cause as much damage as other sins?

 

[childeye]

Perhaps, but does it cause as much damage as other sins?

Yes, since without pride in man as a whole, no other sins would occur.

 

[WIP]

Yes, since without pride in man as a whole, no other sins would occur.

I was kind of thinking along these same lines that underneath virtually all sin is pride.

 

[elijah23]

Yes, since without pride in man as a whole, no other sins would occur.

I was kind of thinking along these same lines that underneath virtually all sin is pride.

I fornicated once as a teenager, not because I was lustful, but because I wanted to prove my manhood. This supports the idea that pride causes all other sin. But I wonder if I might have fornicated anyway at some point.

 

[childeye]

I fornicated once as a teenager, not because I was lustful, but because I wanted to prove my manhood. This supports the idea that pride causes all other sin. But I wonder if I might have fornicated anyway at some point.

Who can say? Certainly God knows I've been there and got the girl pregnant. I was just joking about the ugly wife thing. I married her and she has been the biggest blessing in my life.

 

[elijah23]

Who can say? Certainly God knows I've been there and got the girl pregnant. I was just joking about the ugly wife thing. I married her and she has been the biggest blessing in my life.

I never had another girlfriend. I enjoy being single. I'm pleased you are happy, too.

 

[WIP]

When I think back on wrongs that I have done, I honestly can't think of any that didn't have some element of pride involved. It could even be pride with regard to doing something I know God would not approve. It's like I challenged Him.

 

[childeye]

I was kind of thinking along these same lines that underneath virtually all sin is pride.

Yes, all sin by nature of pride must despise the Godhead in some capacity. For this reason the will is not free under such a spirit to serve God in purity. The Christ however, reveals pride in man and through the Holy Spirit provides conviction. And his Spirit is proud to not be proud, counting the values of worldy treasures as temporal compared to heavenly treasures, and giving God all glory in true and sincere worship. So that to die in Christ is to die to one's ego and become the dirt we are so God may be the Light He is.

So it is I speak against the term freewill defined as the ability to deny God, for it is pride and vanity, not freedom. For Satan is king over all the children of pride and they cannot see this because it is the kingdom of darkness.

 

[cedward1]

When I think back on wrongs that I have done, I honestly can't think of any that didn't have some element of pride involved. It could even be pride with regard to doing something I know God would not approve. It's like I challenged Him.

I tend to agree. I don't know that I have ever consiously challenged Him, I just thought of His will as being secondary to what I wanted. It almost seems as though pride is the attitude that always allows one to sin. We may resist, but if we sin it must be that our own will seems more important to us at that moment. If not, we would go to any extreme to prevent our falling to temptation.

 

[TruthSeeker2012]

Many people are so busy trying to justify their sin, they don’t even ask the question, “What IS sin?â€

If they knew what sin was, then they could repent of it and their problems would disappear.

Everybody seems to be too afraid to ask, but let me give some suggestions, anyway: Sexual unchastity, insobriety, and pride, I believe, are high on the list.

According to Father God, there is no sin. It was taken care off and fully paid by Jesus, the Lamb of God, at Calvary, 2000 years ago!

John 1:29 The next day John saw Jesus coming toward him and said, "Look, the Lamb of God, who takes away the sin of the world!

Notice SIN is singular, not plural, meaning the SIN from beginning to end, was placed on Jesus and Father God accepted Jesus' death AS FULL PAYMENT FOR ALL SIN!

Father God, from His view, His perspective, His sight, there is no longer a sin problem.

If we still have a sin problem that humans need to fix, then Jesus' death at Calvary was incomplete, a scam, a lie, and we are still in HUGE TROUBLE and we now need to perform human duties, deeds and works to solve and fix the sin problem which Jesus' death didn't fully fix.

Hebrews 9:22 says that "without the shedding of Blood, there is no forgiveness." So understand it once for all, you cannot make yourself clean, no matter what you do.. you can only trust in Jesus' blood to make you clean and to forgive you.

This is what the Bible says:

Hebrews 9:26 – He did away with sin on the Cross
Hebrews 9:28 - He took away the sin of the world at the Cross
Colossians 2:13 - He forgave all sins on the Cross – past present and future
Hebrews 1:3 – God cleansed all sins on the Cross
2 Cor 5:19 - God no longer counts the world’s sins against them
Hebrews 10:17-18 – God has forgiven all sins and forgotten them.
Micah 7:19 - God has thrown all our sins into the depths of the sea.

Hence, Jesus took away sin completely at Calvary, it's done! Hence, John said, "Behold the Lamb of God who takes away the SIN of the world", John 1:29. Notice SIN is singular, not plural! Jesus took away sin completely at Calvary, it's done, it's complete, IT IS FINISHED, John 19:30

Sin is not what causes a person to be lost, because sin problem was fixed by Jesus at Calvary. What causes a person to be lost is their rejection of the love of the truth, and Jesus IS the truth, John 14:6, so if you refuse to love the truth, you refuse to love Jesus.

2 Thessalonians 2:10 and in every sort of evil that deceives those who are perishing. They perish because they refused to love the truth and so be saved.

People who believe and teach others that they must beg God to forgive them every day, or perform particular duties and works, or clean yourself up, or become sinless, to remain saved, have never fully understood what happened at Calvary and how Father God views it.

So understand it once for all, you cannot make yourself clean, no matter what you do. You cannot defeat Satan and sin on your own! Jesus did that at Calvary 2000 years ago. Haven't you heard?

And remember, you can only trust in Jesus' blood to make you clean and to save you. Hebrews 9:22 says that "without the shedding of Blood, there is no forgiveness." And salvation is only by faith in Jesus' shed blood at Calvary. NO OTHER BLOOD WILL DO and NO AMOUNTS OF WORKS WILL DO!

Justification is a legal term, but it's ONLY applied to those who place faith in Jesus. It's true that the SIN problem is fixed by Jesus at the Cross, hence, John said, THE LAMB WHO TAKES AWAY THE SIN OF THE WORLD, John 1:29. Notice it's singular, SIN. And it was completely dealt with by Jesus. IF we still have a sin problem today, then Jesus' sacrifice at Calvary was the biggest scam and deception in known history and that means we still have a sin problem that Jesus failed to fix and that means Jesus is NOT the bridge to the Father. See my point?

You should only walk in obedience out of love and the fruit of already having been saved, and not the other way around like you teach.

 

[reformed baptist]

Many people are so busy trying to justify their sin, they don’t even ask the question, “What IS sin?â€

If they knew what sin was, then they could repent of it and their problems would disappear.

Everybody seems to be too afraid to ask, but let me give some suggestions, anyway: Sexual unchastity, insobriety, and pride, I believe, are high on the list.

Or we get the bible discribe it, sin is falling short of the glory of God surely :D

 

[adelphos]

Hello,

Here one of the clearest Scripture definitions for sin:

Whosoever committeth sin transgresseth also the law: for sin is the transgression of the law. (1 Jn 3:4)

Sometimes I think we complicate the simple truths of God's Word, don't you think?

Respectfully,

Adelphos

 

[childeye]

Hello,

Here one of the clearest Scripture definitions for sin:



Sometimes I think we complicate the simple truths of God's Word, don't you think?

Respectfully,

Adelphos

Sin can become complicated depending how you view it. I think it is a direction away from God. The strange thing is the law identfies the direction away from God, yet interpreting the law wrongly one can use the law unjustly and that is sin too. The second commandment Love your neighbor as yourself is basically each persons call.

 

[adelphos]

Sin can become complicated depending how you view it. I think it is a direction away from God. The strange thing is the law identfies the direction away from God, yet interpreting the law wrongly one can use the law unjustly and that is sin too. The second commandment Love your neighbor as yourself is basically each persons call.

I understand what you are saying. I have a tendency to allow Scripture to come up with its own definitions. We humans complicate things way to much... lol

Concerning loving your neighbor, I think that if one studies the legal system of the Scriptures, loving your neighbor is a legal summary statement for a few of the commandments. However, the rest of the Law is what is in our legal system considered "case law." So, from my perspective, how does one know how to love ones neighbor. One studies the case laws related to that subject. It takes all the guess work out. Quite frankly, many believers claim to love their neighbor, but they have no objective Scriptural guidelines that guide them. Subjective loving of ones neighbor can be very, very interesting, don't you think?

Respectfully

Adelphos

 

[childeye]

=adelphos;573911]I understand what you are saying. I have a tendency to allow Scripture to come up with its own definitions. We humans complicate things way to much... lol

Concerning loving your neighbor, I think that if one studies the legal system of the Scriptures, loving your neighbor is a legal summary statement for a few of the commandments. However, the rest of the Law is what is in our legal system considered "case law." So, from my perspective, how does one know how to love ones neighbor. One studies the case laws related to that subject. It takes all the guess work out. Quite frankly, many believers claim to love their neighbor, but they have no objective Scriptural guidelines that guide them. Subjective loving of ones neighbor can be very, very interesting, don't you think?

You're using interesting terms. Subjective Love is the only one I personally know of. Objective Love seems to me to be applied only to God. For there is the subjective view of Love with carnal ambition which may not even be a true Love at all. Morality must be those actions that benefit society as a whole. I know what compassion is and that is what I would try to follow.

 

[adelphos]

You're using interesting terms. Subjective Love is the only one I personally know of. Objective Love seems to me to be applied only to God. For there is the subjective view of Love with carnal ambition which may not even be a true Love at all. Morality must be those actions that benefit society as a whole. I know what compassion is and that is what I would try to follow.

Hi,

I don't think I expressed myself clear enough. What I am trying to say is that loving others must be defined by God's Word from my perspective. Too many people attempt to love others based on their own agendas, ideas, and perspectives, and many times actually contradict Scriptural principles in the process. I am merely suggesting that Biblical love is not the same as humanistic love. As believers, shouldn't we conform to Gods ideals about what He considers love?

Respectfully,

Adelphos

 

[childeye]

=adelphos;573924]Hi,

I don't think I expressed myself clear enough. What I am trying to say is that loving others must be defined by God's Word from my perspective. Too many people attempt to love others based on their own agendas, ideas, and perspectives, and many times actually contradict Scriptural principles in the process. I am merely suggesting that Biblical love is not the same as humanistic love. As believers, shouldn't we conform to Gods ideals about what He considers love?

Respectfully,

Adelphos

Yes we should conform. God says to Love your enemies. For that we must ascertain the reasoning that serves to motivate one to do so. My take is that there is a blindness that no one can help and so we must endure what people will do to us in such blindness and not return evil for evil lest that blindness become an epidemic.

 

[Theodore A. Jones]

According to Father God, there is no sin. It was taken care off and fully paid by Jesus, the Lamb of God, at Calvary, 2000 years ago!


"When he comes he will convict the world of guilt in regard to sin" so he must have missed one. What "taketh away the sins of world actually means" is that all of mankind's sins have been consolidated into one sin by crucifying Jesus. There is no statement made by God which states that there is no sin. You also might note, if there is a possibility of your noticing, what Jesus' says, "I know that his COMMAND leads to eternal life.", not just his crucifixion. An individual's salvation is dependent upon the Way God must be obeyed in regard to Jesus' crucifixion as a sin or that individual perishes.