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So,,TrickorTreatIsSatanic?

Very cool.

THere is nothing satonic about dressing up and going door to door to get treats.
 
I saw this on fb... that dad is the coolest ever, making the most awesome costume for his handicapped boy!
 
I hand out candy to the youngsters and attach a bible tract to it.

I figure, the youth are always going to go trick or treating whether or not I participate. So my family and I figure at least we can somehow give glory to God in the process!

If only one child reads it. Great, I trust the Lord will plant a seed in that young child's heart! :heart
 
that is what is called harvest festival is for. they do that here but use some movies or bible trivia in games.it works.but i dont believe in redeeming pagan holidays.

sorry if the rcc didnt change things with christmas we would have bothered with halloween.all saints day is what halloween was and its to remember the dead saints and to ponder their deaths by picking a saint and how he died. and thanking god for that martyr and all that he did for the Lord.

hmm that is what we should do. valentines day is the same. the brothers valentino whose family crest was a heart shape thing that is in valentines day candy. that day was to remember that they too were martyred.
 
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It looks like it won't turn very well. I guess mom and dad must have to help some.
 
Nov 1 is all saints day Oct 31 is all hollows eve....

Holloween was fun, lots of fun in the small towns we lived in, in the 50s. no thoughts of satan none of that grabage.... but today is not "happy days".
 
I understand the picture now...very cool!



My family doesn't celebrate Halloween. Instead we go to one of the fall festivals the churches around here hold.
 
I think Halloween is an opportunity for the church to get something right. They can celebrate their harvest festival one month before Halloween --- it's called the feast of Tabernacles. Not only will they beat the world one month ahead of things, but an opportunity to celebrate a real harvest rich with the gospel of the Kingdom. While they are at it, they can also take note that's probably when Christ was born (c.f. John 1:14) and celebrate that, too. Then we get two commercial holidays off our list.

Of course kids may like to dress up at Halloween if they been exposed to that. No problem. They can "camp out" in a Tabernacle booth they help make. I can't imagine that being any less fun than dressing up in a stupid costume for a night. And it will teach them as well. I think the Lord's ways are indeed joyous.
 
JimJib said:
I know what you are saying, Reba. A lot of things have come out of the closet, so to speak. When we were kids noone talked about that kind of evil stuff because our society was so much in tune with God, hard work, and living a righteous life; whether you were a Christian or not. Look at the kid shows on public TV: Roy Rogers, Sky King, Sgt. Preston, Rin Tin Tin, and more with real human beings delivering a moral message. Probably 95% of the commercials we have today would NOT have been allowed then.
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they wouldnt have even bothered with the thought let alone production but well the imagery of the shows that showed morality hid the fact that there was a lot of sin behind the scenes.

ie george takei is gay, and also the actor who played maj bellows.(his lover was in the trailer with him on the set) and the drug use by some of the actors and actress of these shows.

all in all it was a better time for a christian to watch tv but it wasnt perfect.
 
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I have listened to a man who was endoctrinated into the satanic realm as a boy by his which/warlock father by his dad grasping his son's hands around a sacrificial offering knife and slicing open a human sacrifice in worship of satan.
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Really? Considering that Satanism has nothing to do with either Satan Worship or Human Sacrifice, I doubt the authenticity of the story. Especially since if there really was a satanic Cult that did Human sacrifices there would be some news stories floating around.

Many other horrible things were shared like being kept like an animal in a corn crib and dead, rotting animals thrown in with him and such. When the boy wanted to reach out for help and rescue he was prevented from going to Christians because of the fact that he knew many Christians who celebrated satan's bithday along with satan worshipers.
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I think I should point out that Samhain ( or the Catholic renaming, Halloween) is not Satan's birthday, nor is there any religion that I know of that honors Halloween as such. Considering that Satan ( actually lets be more specific, the Devil/ lucifer was an angel and technically doesn't have a birthday).
Putting a pumkin out for example, stems back to Europe (Druids) where turnips and such were hollowed out and put on porches as a sign to the evil spirits that that house gave them homage and they would leave them alone.
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No, this is actually wrong in several ways. The Druids were Celts, who we know very little about due the Anglo Saxons decimating them and their culture when they came to what is now England and Ireland. The Anglo Saxons brought with them from Scandinavia the tradition of carving turnips, not as a homoage, but as a trick to ward off evil spits. Its a distraction. Mainly because in Nordic myth there are fire demons that lead people and other demons into be lost.
Then you have the parties and costumes and such. He, being a boy, was unable to differentiate even probable "innocent" Christian "Harvest parties" and the like from the evil intended. So he grew in evil and such for years because of the mixed messages from the Christians.
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I really doubt this story is true. Mainly because of the butchered history, the ignorance of the myths, and that no "real" Satanic cults actually exist. When they do, they are very rare and small, sociologists have made several attempts to locate these cults but have found out that most of the time, these cults are actually just myths.

I got this video "Tirck or Treat" from "The Art of Family Living" hosted by Joh Nader. It was one of many Christian videos avail from some Christian source way back when Focus on the Family was just starting (probably why this show ended soon after.) I still have it only not "findable" right now. It also interviewed several "queen" witches from CA, NY, and Europe, I believe. Riding the broomstick thing is an actual practice of witches in satan worship. They circle a coldurn or some worship artifact while placing a broomstick between their legs and "ride" it channeling their "orgasmic energy" to satan.
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I really need to point something out to you man. Focus on the family is known for lying to people for money and donation. This sounds like a really big one. FoF likes to prey on those ignorant of the subject matters they preach against in hopes of scaring their audience into whatever political or monetary venture they are currently seeking.

FoF has a history of lying about holidays, the LGBT, Evolution ( well science in general), and history. I would sugest ditching them.
 
JimJib said:
Meatballsub, I made one mistake, I do believe I mispoke about Holloween being satan's bithday. I knew that it was a major day with satan worshipers and as my resources pointed out it it the most important day on their calender.
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There is no religion has Halloween as their holiday to worship the Devil. I'm serious. There are however several religions ( Including Christianity and Judaism) that recognize the Solstice and have come up with their own Myths around it.

If the sociologists who approached the satanists were not true believers in the spirtiual realm and were tyring to explain what they experienced with pure science anything, whether it is Christian or satanic, would be dismissed as a hoax.
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No, I don't think you understand. There have been no large cases of religious groups that hold human sacrifice in honor of Satan. that can be studied by science. Checking to see through interviews, observation, etc. Dude this is actually pretty simple.
I was that way one time. I was an athiest and turned agnostic for a while as I started to be aware of the unexplainable spiritual realm at work around me. While I was an athiest it was so easy to dismiss spiritual things as a hoax.
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Dude, I'll be honest. I don't care. This isn't me being mean, but you not believing in God or Gods has nothing to do with a video lying to you about basic history and whether or not there are cults of people running around doing human sacrifices in honor of the Devil. Nothing, nadda, zip.

Police depts around the US have found animals in woods which show evidence of having been ceremonially slaughtered.
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The first thing is that this doese not prove that these people are worshipping Satan. Second, do you have anything other then your word that this is happening?

Human sacrafice is rare.
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Yes it is, and usually it has nothing to do with Satan worship.
Evidence of such could be hidden or disguised as the results of a horrible accident.
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I don't care about coulda shoulda woulda. Also a forensic team can easily tell the difference between knife wounds from an accident or murder.
From what the gentleman shared, the sacrifice was only for blood-letting. The blood was collected and drunk. Mutulation of the body was not mentioned.
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Yet there has to be mutilation to get blood. Also, why should we trust this individual? Why has this individual not been arrested for being part of a homicide? Think about that.

Your other points don't warrant a response. Their lack of credibility is obvious. It would be helpful for your position to provide factual resource.
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Well I'm not aloud to post the stuff on the LGBT since this forum prohibits any positive information towards them. I can link you to historical information on the history of Halloween. Also the Science parts depends on what you already know about Cosmology and Biology.

Oh, by the way, how does one eat a meat ball sub w/o the meat balls flying out all over the place?
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Don't unwrap it all the way. ;)
 
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