So, why is homosexuality wrong?

[butxifxnot]

This is something I have never received an answer on by any believer who does not heed all Torah.

Leviticus 18:22 Thou shalt not lie with mankind, as with womankind: it is abomination.

I assume (with hope) that we all agree this is a strict commandment against homosexual behavior.

When Christian believers quote Romans 13:8-10, or Galatians 5:14 as "proof" text that the Torah commandments are not binding, but all that matters is "love", why then is homosexuality forbidden?

The Torah commandments are not binding, but more matters than just "love."
God makes known through His words in the Torah His attitudes about behavior. Incest is STILL wrong. Bestiality is STILL wrong. Homosexuality is STILL wrong. All three of these are called abominations (except bestiality, which is called "confusion", a unique adjective). All were held as serious enough in God's eyes to merit stoning.

Homosexual's can't love? They are constantly doing wrong to their neighbor?

You're not talking about love: you're talking about lust. Lust is adultery of the heart, and heterosexuals AND homosexuals are commanded by Christ to steer clear of it.
The thing is, hetersexuals are given an ordinance by God to bond with another person in marriage where that lust is acceptable in His sight. Homosexuals are not.

Why can't we have sex with beasts or sleep with our sister? Why can't we get drunk or commit fornication? These things don't stop us from "loving". We could very well do these things and still do no harm to our neighbor. Who's business is it about what goes on with you and your dog or horse?

It seems to me that there is more to how love fulfills the Torah than what most believers say goes along with it.

The rule of the Christian is not JUST "love." Love SUMS UP the commandments. A summary is not exhaustive of particulars, as you can tell from any plot summary of any work of media.

Hope this helps.
-Peter

 

[Lewis]

How many times do I have to say it. The moral laws still stand. Would you sleeo with your sister, would you lie with your mother? Would you steal, kill, sleep with your brothers wife. All the moral laws, out of the 613 still stand to this day. Having sex with another man is breaking God's moral law, for He has told you not to do it. And you cats still question Him. He did not make man to be penetrated by another man. And this did not happen until after the fall.

 

[Lewis]

And one more thing about that post about male rape. Males rape males in jail, because they are downright horny, and the anus is a subsitution for a womans vagina. These are males who otherwise, would not touch a male. The rapes don't happen like they use to, but they still do. In some prisons they even have mock weddings, making paper wedding bands. And then you have the men who only like men in there.

 

[lovely]

Who was going through my post history? I'm ashamed of this.


Thanks,
Eric

Eric, I feel like that sometimes too when my I read things that have been dug up...I read something recently where I disagreed with myself. :D

I remember this thread, and at the time we were all talking a lot about keeping the Sabbath, and the dietary laws. I think you were trying to say, if we don't have to keep those laws, then the others shouldn't have to be kept either...ultimately making the point that they should all be observed? Is this correct? How do you feel differently now, or are you just not believing any of it at this point?

The Lord bless you.

 

[Bad Rabbit]

I think that the gays should be a little more grateful and stop pretending that they are being treated poorly.

The attitude of Christians towards homosexuals is exemplary, kind and tolerant.
At least if you compare it to the way believers treated them previously.

I don't remember the exact details but it included imprisonment, social exclusion and roasting them alive on an iron plate.

Needless to say that all the people who did this and called themselves Christians weren't truly Christians. And if future generations look upon us and judge us to be homophobes, than the bait-and-switch game of re-defining who is a True Christian can go on into eternity and all shall be well.


Bad Rabbit