What's new
By:
Filters
Christian Forums

This is a sample guest message. Register a free account today to become a member! Once signed in, you'll be able to participate on this site by adding your own topics and posts, as well as connect with other members through your own private inbox!

Soma Sight's personal testimony to the power of Christ......

S

Soma-Sight

Guest
I have personally had visions of Christ and other such phenom relating to spiritual dimensions while in deep prayer and meditation in the wilderness and in my own home.

These phenom are the main reason I shun the traditional evengelical camp. Whenever I tried to talk to someone about these events I was looked upon as either a not being truthful or just trying to start troubles.

These encounters have been the most important moments in my short life of 25 years.

My most memorabale vision was in the mountains of southern California. I was walking on a trail at night and all of a sudden felt a great urge to kneel and pray earnestly. As I closed my eyes and opened them I was transported to the Garden of Gethsamene when Christ was all alone without His disciples. I could look into His eyes and see the tears and anguish coming from the deep part of His infinite soul. I could feel how alone He was in the dark and there was a distinct notion of His humaness coming through the Way He looked at me.

I wept bitterly as my own heart seemed to understand the great pains and sacrifice the chosen Son of God endured in His stay on earth. The rejection, the lazy disciples, the unbelieving, ungrateful masses that He only wanted to help....

At this point I cried more like a little child and did not get up for what seemed like an eternity......

As I kept walking I heard a great rush of wind in the trees and looked straight above my head. A great pillar of light was coming from the Heavens and right into my eyes. Angels were coming up and down this pillar of Light and singing praises to God. The Angels were made of Light and seemed to be "born" from the pillar they travelled on. I was amazed and fell to my knees again.

I cannot really remember the finer deatils because once this vision left me, it was like somethimg inside was "turned off". Like I was viewing these events through another sort of sensory perception.

How do evangelicals view experiences such as this?

For two weeks after, my mind and perceptions were quite different and I felt "lighter". This is hard to explain but that is the best I can do.

Is this a God - inspired experince?
 
I would also be interested in any experiences you, or loved ones have had....

thx....
 
I have no problem with visions. I just question yours as they do not seem to have lead you into truth and a right understanding of God's Word and His Son. Since then you have been studying things like hinduism and such and finding such greatness in it. You continually try and pick the Bible apart and find fault with it. I would have to question the validity of your visions.
 
I am confident in the Lord to lead you and you to follow, Soma- and it appears as if you will avoid becoming one of these joykilling self-righteous bottle flies.



Never avoid asking the tough questions, and do not turn from the tough answers.
 
You sure got that right LD!
Click to expand...

Thats understandable....

I dont expect anyone to actually believe in the Risen Christ......

Just in the pictures in a book.........
 
Soma, there seems to be "Truth" in what Lyric's Dad says. The subjects of some of your posts really make me scratch my head. I have to ask, are you are looking for someone to convince you that you should be a christian or not? Or are you looking for a sign or an "experiance" that will finally convince you one way or the other? I would not discount your visions, however, I would also expect it to bring you closer to God not raise more questions concerning your faith.

In Christ!
 
Soma, there seems to be "Truth" in what Lyric's Dad says. The subjects of some of your posts really make me scratch my head. I have to ask, are you are looking for someone to convince you that you should be a christian or not? Or are you looking for a sign or an "experiance" that will finally convince you one way or the other? I would not discount your visions, however, I would also expect it to bring you closer to God not raise more questions concerning your faith.

In Christ!
Click to expand...

Sometimes to learn about the Truth you have to step outside the box and see things from other peoples points of view.......

I may argue from "other" viewpoints in some instances but it is all in the name of finding Truth.......

As far as the visions go, it really had little bearing on what I believed in particular at the time. It hit me by surprise and I doubt I will ever be able to replicate it again.........

At least until I am dead that is..... :lol:
 
Soma-Sight said:
Sometimes to learn about the Truth you have to step outside the box and see things from other peoples points of view.......
Click to expand...

Wow! You might want to make sure your lamps have plenty of oil in them before you "step outside the box" good luck!
 
Wow! You might want to make sure your lamps have plenty of oil in them before you "step outside the box" good luck!
Click to expand...

I sense a lack of security in the convictions of your own faith in this statement.

If you are grounded in the "Rock" of the Lord than learning from other points of view should not be feared!

Otherwise you imply a weak faith!

Why not feed a hungry JW instead of stoning one!

Of course most of them have at least minimal rescources so that is a moot point........
 
I question anything that does not contain some element of the basic gospel message in the salvation experience. I've run into others who have had visitation/experiences and most of what they say does not agree with what Jesus has shown us. Their belief systems were also faulty and they were accepting of other religions as well which is a serious compromise to the salvation message.

One guy was out in a swamp; why he was there, I don't know, but that's where he had a spirit appear to him telling him things that caused him to adopt certain beliefs, for example, that when he was doing a simple thing like drinking a glass of water that it was worshipping God. He also believed that all religions worshipped God.

But it goes to show that what a person truly believes foundationally is the deciding factor on their eternal destiny and unlean spirits would love to screw it up or intercept it. That why the bible says to make disciples. People need to understand who Jesus isand what they believe about him. This belief is ETERNAL. It's not a smorgasboard where everything's ok and everybody goes to heaven. God provided us with the written word because it is critically important to know of salvation.

At 12 yrs old I got saved without much knowledge, but I knew that it was about Jesus giving his life for me. That was the focus in my acceptance of his finished work.
It is all too easy to formulate an individual doctrine or lone stance on heaven, afterlife, or salvation for that matter and it is the very reason God designed scripture for keeping us in the right general direction. Once we start to deviate from that foundation, almost anything goes.
 
Re: Soma Sight's personal testimony to the power of Christ..

I was walking on a trail at night and all of a sudden felt a great urge to kneel and pray earnestly
Click to expand...

You are not alone there are plenty of people had this kind of visions! Either through Yoga or LSD.

May I know your method of Pray?
When you meditate would you chant?
What type of phrases you will use?
Have you been terrorized by demons?
Do you often see Snakes?

I hope you are having problem with reconciling eastern mysticism with Christian gospel! This is an illusion to you suggesting that Jesus can be reached through Yoga! Make no mistake it is an "Angle of Light!â€Â

Thanks
 
Soma-Sight said:
Wow! You might want to make sure your lamps have plenty of oil in them before you "step outside the box" good luck!
Click to expand...

I sense a lack of security in the convictions of your own faith in this statement.

If you are grounded in the "Rock" of the Lord than learning from other points of view should not be feared!

Otherwise you imply a weak faith!

Why not feed a hungry JW instead of stoning one!

Of course most of them have at least minimal rescources so that is a moot point........
Click to expand...
It is not so much the convitions of his faith as it is the matter in which you speak. If you have a firm foundation in Christ and believe in your heart 110% that everything Jesus preached is true and the Bible is a true account of that, then why do you need to step outside the box to "find the truth." I believe it is you who might have a weak faith.
 
It is not so much the convitions of his faith as it is the matter in which you speak. If you have a firm foundation in Christ and believe in your heart 110% that everything Jesus preached is true and the Bible is a true account of that, then why do you need to step outside the box to "find the truth." I believe it is you who might have a weak faith.
Click to expand...

Unless you have a distinct knowledge on the history of the Church, a fluent dialect and understanding of Greek and Hebrew, and an idea of Christ outside of a caucasian God - man in a white robe.....

Than I would say that your understanding is more like 33 percent! :)

You are not alone there are plenty of people had this kind of visions! Either through Yoga or LSD.

May I know your method of Pray?
When you meditate would you chant?
What type of phrases you will use?
Have you been terrorized by demons?
Do you often see Snakes?

I hope you are having problem with reconciling eastern mysticism with Christian gospel! This is an illusion to you suggesting that Jesus can be reached through Yoga! Make no mistake it is an "Angle of Light!â€Â

Thanks
Click to expand...

I see you take the stance that the Devil is stronger than Christ and no redeeming features can be found in the spiritual planes of existance.

This is a common conception held by most Christian fundamentalists who have no idea what the human body and spirit really is and what it is capable of.

The "prayer" you ask of is one that sees past the dualities of the world to the Unity found in the Spirit. It is beyond any sense of "praying" for wealth or fame or even health. It is a prayer to be used as a vessel of the Spirit in order to see with spiritual eyes. Demons, snakes, etc are common epiphenomenon that are expereinced by those with a heart that is far from God and close to the ego.

There is a risk in searching within and without for the Kingdom of Heaven.

"The price of admission is your mind" - Hesse

However "security" is not my primary focus. See my religion and security post for more on this. I have no fear and believe in a God that transcends the power of demons.

My advice is that you stay away from yoga as you have Karma2grace. Obviously it is not for you! You have had bad experiences with it just like many alter boys have had bad experiences with molesters in the Church!There is evil in all organized systems of religion I can assure you of this.
 
I see you take the stance that the Devil is stronger than Christ and no redeeming features can be found in the spiritual planes of existence.
Click to expand...

You are making assumptions soma, we never said Devil is stronger than Christ, Devil is a defeated foe, he always uses lie and illusion to cheat people, Yoga is an illusion! All the so called experience you have is illusion


This is a common conception held by most Christian fundamentalists who have no idea what the human body and spirit really is and what it is capable of.

The "prayer" you ask of is one that sees past the dualities of the world to the Unity found in the Spirit. It is beyond any sense of "praying" for wealth or fame or even health. It is a prayer to be used as a vessel of the Spirit in order to see with spiritual eyes. Demons, snakes, etc are common epiphenomenons that are experienced by those with a heart that is far from God and close to the ego.
Click to expand...


What is Ego? , A Christian is the one who cast his burden on Christ by admitting that his nature is evil and he cannot save himself, Is it Ego or obedience to the God who created us?

As a contrary the New Ager thinks that he himself a god and he can please god by rituals and his good works Is it not Ego at it is best? , Man is elevating himself equal to god as Satan did before his fall? , Pride is the first and worst sin that God hates most, He like broken hearted people




There is a risk in searching within and without for the Kingdom of Heaven.

"The price of admission is your mind" - Hesse

However "security" is not my primary focus. See my religion and security post for more on this. I have no fear and believe in a God that transcends the power of demons.
Click to expand...

You do not believe God; you are elevating yourself equal to god and live in an illusion .


My advice is that you stay away from yoga as you have Karma2grace. Obviously it is not for you! You have had bad experiences with it just like many alter boys have had bad experiences with molesters in the Church! There is evil in all organized systems of religion I can assure you of this.
Click to expand...

Well Said Soma, you are right! there are Evil in all organized systems, Say for example, if a boy was molested by a priest then the victim may go to another boy and advice him to stay away from the priest , it is the choice of the second boy to take it or leave it, You are that second Boy , I wish you could stay away from the priest (Yoga)

Zechariah 10:2
… diviners see visions that LIE; they tell dreams that are FALSE, they give comfort in vain. Therefore the people wander like sheep oppressed for lack of a shepherd.


Jeremiah 29:8
yes, this is what the Lord Almighty, the God of Israel, says: "Do not let the prophets and diviners among you deceive you. Do not listen to the dreams you encourage them to have.

God want us to choose the Tree if Life (Jesus) NOT the Tree of Knowledge (Satan)

Thanks
 
While we may argue pretty vehemently on matters of politics, Soma-Sight, I would like to say that I thoroughly respect your willingness to explore the Gospel from all angles. All too many people seem terrified of something so simple as even reading through the texts of another religion, or asking questions of someone with different beliefs than their own. I agree that by exploring all the world's people, and looking carefully at many different beliefs - even those we view as mistaken - we can develop a fuller and richer understanding of the Bible and of Christ.

Since the next time we converse it will probably be in a far less civil manner, I just wanted to tell you now that I think your spirituality is immensely mature. :)
 
While we may argue pretty vehemently on matters of politics, Soma-Sight, I would like to say that I thoroughly respect your willingness to explore the Gospel from all angles. All too many people seem terrified of something so simple as even reading through the texts of another religion, or asking questions of someone with different beliefs than their own. I agree that by exploring all the world's people, and looking carefully at many different beliefs - even those we view as mistaken - we can develop a fuller and richer understanding of the Bible and of Christ.

Since the next time we converse it will probably be in a far less civil manner, I just wanted to tell you now that I think your spirituality is immensely mature.
Click to expand...

Hey thanks a lot!

Often times I wonder if something is "wrong" with me because I do like to view "all the angles".

It is scary sometimes because you feel very alienated from the rest of your peers and sometimes it can be depressing.

But other times it is very rewarding.

May the Lord Bless you on your walk and grant you peace....
 
Soma-Sight, we can tell you are a sincere Christian and we love the threads that you have started.
 
You must log in or register to reply here.
Back
Top