State your veiws quiz. (Firearms/Self defense)

[John]

Here is a small quiz for anyone who wishes to partake. My answers are in Red.


1. My level of familiarity with firearms is:

• I am ignorant of how they function. [/*:m:1igu9a4w]
• I know the basics of gun safety. [/*:m:1igu9a4w]
• I carry for self-defense, compete or hunt. [/*:m:1igu9a4w]
• I am an firearms instructor. [/*:m:1igu9a4w]
• I know how guns function from watching TV. [/*:m:1igu9a4w]

2. I would prefer that my kids learn about guns and safety from:

• Mass media, such as television [/*:m:1igu9a4w]
• Classmates [/*:m:1igu9a4w]
• Army or National Guard drill sergeant [/*:m:1igu9a4w]
• Coach at school [/*:m:1igu9a4w]
• A certified instructor [/*:m:1igu9a4w]
• Me or my spouse [/*:m:1igu9a4w]

Before completing this, please remember that possession of firearms by felons is already illegal in the United States and Canada. Therefore, you should not suggest "prohibiting criminals from having guns" as a solution: the law already does that. We have also seen that the laws are not very effective in preventing possession. Do consider, however, the effects of your suggestions on you, personally.


3. Is it morally correct for a police officer to shoot in order to save an innocent victim from an attack?

• Yes.[/*:m:1igu9a4w]
• No.[/*:m:1igu9a4w]

4. If no police officer is present is it morally correct for the innocent victim to shoot to protect self or dependents from an attack?

• Yes.[/*:m:1igu9a4w]
• No.[/*:m:1igu9a4w]

5.The proper response to a drive-by shooting is...

• prohibit you and other law-abiding citizens from buying the type of the car used by the perpetrator. [/*:m:1igu9a4w]
• prohibit you and other law-abiding citizens from buying the type of the gun used by the perpetrator. [/*:m:1igu9a4w]
• prosecute the perpetrator of the crime[/*:m:1igu9a4w]

6.The proper response to an arson is...

• prohibit you and other law-abiding citizens from buying gasoline. [/*:m:1igu9a4w]
• prohibit you and other law-abiding citizens from buying any flammable fluids, matches and lighters. [/*:m:1igu9a4w]
• prosecute the perpetrator of the crime[/*:m:1igu9a4w]

7.The proper response to electronic fraud...

• prohibit you and other law-abiding citizens from buying computers. [/*:m:1igu9a4w]
• limit you and other law-abiding citizens to computers that have no more than two of the following features: 66MHz or faster processor, 14.4 baud or faster modem, 8MB or more RAM, 500MB or larger hard drive. [/*:m:1igu9a4w]
• prosecute the perpetrator of the crime[/*:m:1igu9a4w]

8.Over my lifetime, it is: (Pick one) that I or my family would be intended victim of a criminal.

• Not likely[/*:m:1igu9a4w]
• Possible[/*:m:1igu9a4w]
• Likely[/*:m:1igu9a4w]

9. If I am confronted with a life-threatening situation, police will: (pick one) be there in time to prevent any damage.

• Always[/*:m:1igu9a4w]
• Possibly[/*:m:1igu9a4w]
• Unlikely[/*:m:1igu9a4w]

10. If my child or my spouse were assaulted, I would...

• run away and hope my kid or spouse can keep up with me [/*:m:1igu9a4w]
• be a good witness so I can tell the cops what happened later [/*:m:1igu9a4w]
• try to convince the attacker to stop through verbal persuasion [/*:m:1igu9a4w]
• fight to stop the attack [/*:m:1igu9a4w]

11. If I choose to resist, my primary concern would be...

• health of my attacker [/*:m:1igu9a4w]
• my own safety [/*:m:1igu9a4w]

12. Given a choice, I would prefer to defend myself with...

• my bare hands [/*:m:1igu9a4w]
• an ineffective weapon, such as pepper spray [/*:m:1igu9a4w]
• an effective weapon, such as a firearm [/*:m:1igu9a4w]

13. If I choose to defend myself with a firearm, I would favor the...

• least effective type possible [/*:m:1igu9a4w]
• most effective type possible [/*:m:1igu9a4w]

14. Criminals often gang up on a single victim. Shooting accurately under stress is often difficult and more than one shot may be required to stop each attacker.

If defending myself with a firearm, I would want the magazine to hold...

• one round [/*:m:1igu9a4w]
• six rounds [/*:m:1igu9a4w]
• ten rounds[/*:m:1igu9a4w]
• 30 rounds[/*:m:1igu9a4w]

15. Some say that just owning a gun would make you a violent person; if I just had a handgun, I would...

• go shoot up the nearest fast food restaurant [/*:m:1igu9a4w]
• go shoot up the nearest Army base [/*:m:1igu9a4w]
• kill somebody I know next time I get angry [/*:m:1igu9a4w]
• none of the above. I would continue to be a peaceful person. [/*:m:1igu9a4w]
• act even more politely than before so as to avoid confrontations [/*:m:1igu9a4w]

16. Now let's talk about what other people would do.
Police officers carry high-capacity handguns and store shotguns or submachine guns in patrol cars because...

• the cops are evil and want to kill innocents.[/*:m:1igu9a4w]
• police deparments cannot afford tanks.[/*:m:1igu9a4w]
• such firearms are effective means of self-defense[/*:m:1igu9a4w]

17. If all guns were outlawed, I think that all criminals would...

• turn in their weapons to police and become model citizens.[/*:m:1igu9a4w]
• turn in their guns and beg for small change[/*:m:1igu9a4w]
• keep their guns and prey on disarmed law-abiding people.[/*:m:1igu9a4w]

18. If a person planning robbery, rape or murder cannot get a handgun, they would think...

• "I better stay home tonight and get a job in the morning".[/*:m:1igu9a4w]
• "I will buy an illegal gun from my drug supplier, then go kill".[/*:m:1igu9a4w]
• "I will grab a knife or a baseball bat instead". [/*:m:1igu9a4w]

19. A rapist choosing between two victims (one armed, one unarmed), would prefer to...

• attack the armed one, so he could "take her gun and use it against her".[/*:m:1igu9a4w]
• attack the unarmed one because that would be less hazardous.[/*:m:1igu9a4w]
• not to mess with either, as he can't tell which one is armed.[/*:m:1igu9a4w]

20. Someone planning a drive-by shooting would use...

• only legal 10-round magazines because they plan to get caught.[/*:m:1igu9a4w]
• anything he wants because he doesn't plan to get caught.[/*:m:1igu9a4w]

Source: http://www.a-human-right.com/

Lets see how people here stack up.

 

[John]

Debate is welcomed after the test is taken, but please..for the love of God keep it civil.

 

[jasoncran]

Here is a small quiz for anyone who wishes to partake. My answers are in Red.


1. My level of familiarity with firearms is:

• I am ignorant of how they function. [/*:m:182poa33]
• I know the basics of gun safety. [/*:m:182poa33]
• I carry for self-defense, compete or hunt. [/*:m:182poa33]
• I am an firearms instructor. [/*:m:182poa33]
• I know how guns function from watching TV. [/*:m:182poa33]

i know the basics
2. I would prefer that my kids learn about guns and safety from:

• Mass media, such as television [/*:m:182poa33]
• Classmates [/*:m:182poa33]
• Army or National Guard drill sergeant [/*:m:182poa33]
• Coach at school [/*:m:182poa33]
• A certified instructor [/*:m:182poa33]
• Me or my spouse [/*:m:182poa33]

i have no kids with me, but if they ask i will help the learn to the best of ability
Before completing this, please remember that possession of firearms by felons is already illegal in the United States and Canada. Therefore, you should not suggest "prohibiting criminals from having guns" as a solution: the law already does that. We have also seen that the laws are not very effective in preventing possession. Do consider, however, the effects of your suggestions on you, personally.
negatory the possesion of firearms are legal for all u.s citizens the law in commiefornia that requires regristration isnt a law yet , and that law if not properly compliant with the 2nd amedment is unconstituional and the nra will fight that. and one can get the very gun on my profile if you have the proper license but you sign away rights when you do that.

3. Is it morally correct for a police officer to shoot in order to save an innocent victim from an attack?

• Yes.[/*:m:182poa33]
• No.[/*:m:182poa33]

yes
4. If no police officer is present is it morally correct for the innocent victim to shoot to protect self or dependents from an attack? yes,if retreat isnt possible.even with ccl's you cant carry in certain areas.

• Yes.[/*:m:182poa33]
• No.[/*:m:182poa33]

5.The proper response to a drive-by shooting is...

• prohibit you and other law-abiding citizens from buying the type of the car used by the perpetrator. [/*:m:182poa33]
• prohibit you and other law-abiding citizens from buying the type of the gun used by the perpetrator. [/*:m:182poa33]
• prosecute the perpetrator of the crime[/*:m:182poa33]

this one


6.The proper response to an arson is...

• prohibit you and other law-abiding citizens from buying gasoline. [/*:m:182poa33]
• prohibit you and other law-abiding citizens from buying any flammable fluids, matches and lighters. [/*:m:182poa33]
• prosecute the perpetrator of the crime[/*:m:182poa33]

the last
7.The proper response to electronic fraud...

• prohibit you and other law-abiding citizens from buying computers. [/*:m:182poa33]
• limit you and other law-abiding citizens to computers that have no more than two of the following features: 66MHz or faster processor, 14.4 baud or faster modem, 8MB or more RAM, 500MB or larger hard drive. [/*:m:182poa33]
• prosecute the perpetrator of the crime[/*:m:182poa33]

this one
8.Over my lifetime, it is: (Pick one) that I or my family would be intended victim of a criminal.

• Not likely[/*:m:182poa33]
• Possible[/*:m:182poa33]
• Likely[/*:m:182poa33]

likely

9. If I am confronted with a life-threatening situation, police will: (pick one) be there in time to prevent any damage.
no, it takes at least ten minutes to get to my house , when seconds count you dont have a minute!

• Always[/*:m:182poa33]
• Possibly[/*:m:182poa33]
• Unlikely[/*:m:182poa33]

10. If my child or my spouse were assaulted, I would...

• run away and hope my kid or spouse can keep up with me [/*:m:182poa33]
• be a good witness so I can tell the cops what happened later [/*:m:182poa33]
• try to convince the attacker to stop through verbal persuasion [/*:m:182poa33]
• fight to stop the attack [/*:m:182poa33]

till death!

11. If I choose to resist, my primary concern would be...

• health of my attacker [/*:m:182poa33]
• my own safety [/*:m:182poa33]

duh, that's why i take martial arts. choke till death if need be!


12. Given a choice, I would prefer to defend myself with...

• my bare hands [/*:m:182poa33]
• an ineffective weapon, such as pepper spray [/*:m:182poa33]
• an effective weapon, such as a firearm [/*:m:182poa33]

all of the above, gun is the best, but if i dont have one then i must use what i gots


13. If I choose to defend myself with a firearm, I would favor the...

• least effective type possible [/*:m:182poa33]
• most effective type possible [/*:m:182poa33]

thisone

14. Criminals often gang up on a single victim. Shooting accurately under stress is often difficult and more than one shot may be required to stop each attacker.

If defending myself with a firearm, I would want the magazine to hold...

• one round [/*:m:182poa33]
• six rounds [/*:m:182poa33]
• ten rounds[/*:m:182poa33]
• 30 rounds[/*:m:182poa33]

lets' not get into the silliness of owning an automatic weapon for all.

15. Some say that just owning a gun would make you a violent person; if I just had a handgun, I would...

• go shoot up the nearest fast food restaurant [/*:m:182poa33]
• go shoot up the nearest Army base [/*:m:182poa33]
• kill somebody I know next time I get angry [/*:m:182poa33]
• none of the above. I would continue to be a peaceful person. [/*:m:182poa33]
• act even more politely than before so as to avoid confrontations [/*:m:182poa33]

none of the above, if you are too wahcked to own a gun then dont buy one.
16. Now let's talk about what other people would do.
Police officers carry high-capacity handguns and store shotguns or submachine guns in patrol cars because...

• the cops are evil and want to kill innocents.[/*:m:182poa33]
• police deparments cannot afford tanks.[/*:m:182poa33]
• such firearms are effective means of self-defense[/*:m:182poa33]

17. If all guns were outlawed, I think that all criminals would...

• turn in their weapons to police and become model citizens.[/*:m:182poa33]
• turn in their guns and beg for small change[/*:m:182poa33]
• keep their guns and prey on disarmed law-abiding people.[/*:m:182poa33]

this one

18. If a person planning robbery, rape or murder cannot get a handgun, they would think...

• "I better stay home tonight and get a job in the morning".[/*:m:182poa33]
• "I will buy an illegal gun from my drug supplier, then go kill".duh[/*:m:182poa33]
• "I will grab a knife or a baseball bat instead". [/*:m:182poa33]

19. A rapist choosing between two victims (one armed, one unarmed), would prefer to...

• attack the armed one, so he could "take her gun and use it against her".lol[/*:m:182poa33]
• attack the unarmed one because that would be less hazardous.[/*:m:182poa33]
• not to mess with either, as he can't tell which one is armed.[/*:m:182poa33]

20. Someone planning a drive-by shooting would use...

• only legal 10-round magazines because they plan to get caught.[/*:m:182poa33]
• anything he wants because he doesn't plan to get caught.[/*:m:182poa33]

duh

Source: http://www.a-human-right.com/

Lets see how people here stack up.

 

[Pard]

First, my favorite gun quote to put on protest signs: "If guns kill people than pencils misspell words"

Here is a small quiz for anyone who wishes to partake. My answers are in Red.


1. My level of familiarity with firearms is:

• I am ignorant of how they function. [/*:m:2m7xgdok]
• I know the basics of gun safety. [/*:m:2m7xgdok]
• I carry for self-defense, compete or hunt. [/*:m:2m7xgdok]
• I am an firearms instructor[/*:m:2m7xgdok]
• I know how guns function from watching TV. [/*:m:2m7xgdok]

2. I would prefer that my kids learn about guns and safety from:

• Mass media, such as television [/*:m:2m7xgdok]
• Classmates [/*:m:2m7xgdok]
• Army or National Guard drill sergeant [/*:m:2m7xgdok]
• Coach at school [/*:m:2m7xgdok]
• A certified instructor [/*:m:2m7xgdok]
• Me or my spouse [/*:m:2m7xgdok]

Before completing this, please remember that possession of firearms by felons is already illegal in the United States and Canada. Therefore, you should not suggest "prohibiting criminals from having guns" as a solution: the law already does that. We have also seen that the laws are not very effective in preventing possession. Do consider, however, the effects of your suggestions on you, personally.


3. Is it morally correct for a police officer to shoot in order to save an innocent victim from an attack?

• Yes.[/*:m:2m7xgdok]
• No.[/*:m:2m7xgdok]

4. If no police officer is present is it morally correct for the innocent victim to shoot to protect self or dependents from an attack?

• Yes.[/*:m:2m7xgdok]
• No.[/*:m:2m7xgdok]

5.The proper response to a drive-by shooting is...

• prohibit you and other law-abiding citizens from buying the type of the car used by the perpetrator. [/*:m:2m7xgdok]
• prohibit you and other law-abiding citizens from buying the type of the gun used by the perpetrator. [/*:m:2m7xgdok]
• prosecute the perpetrator of the crime[/*:m:2m7xgdok]

6.The proper response to an arson is...

• prohibit you and other law-abiding citizens from buying gasoline. [/*:m:2m7xgdok]
• prohibit you and other law-abiding citizens from buying any flammable fluids, matches and lighters. [/*:m:2m7xgdok]
• prosecute the perpetrator of the crime[/*:m:2m7xgdok]

7.The proper response to electronic fraud...

• prohibit you and other law-abiding citizens from buying computers. [/*:m:2m7xgdok]
• limit you and other law-abiding citizens to computers that have no more than two of the following features: 66MHz or faster processor, 14.4 baud or faster modem, 8MB or more RAM, 500MB or larger hard drive. [/*:m:2m7xgdok]
• prosecute the perpetrator of the crime[/*:m:2m7xgdok]

8.Over my lifetime, it is: (Pick one) that I or my family would be intended victim of a criminal.

• Not likely[/*:m:2m7xgdok]
• Possible[/*:m:2m7xgdok]
• Likely[/*:m:2m7xgdok]

9. If I am confronted with a life-threatening situation, police will: (pick one) be there in time to prevent any damage.

• Always[/*:m:2m7xgdok]
• Possibly[/*:m:2m7xgdok]
• Unlikely[/*:m:2m7xgdok]

10. If my child or my spouse were assaulted, I would...

• run away and hope my kid or spouse can keep up with me [/*:m:2m7xgdok]
• be a good witness so I can tell the cops what happened later [/*:m:2m7xgdok]
• try to convince the attacker to stop through verbal persuasion [/*:m:2m7xgdok]
• fight to stop the attack [/*:m:2m7xgdok]

11. If I choose to resist, my primary concern would be...

• health of my attacker [/*:m:2m7xgdok]
• my own safety [/*:m:2m7xgdok]

12. Given a choice, I would prefer to defend myself with...

• my bare hands [/*:m:2m7xgdok]
• an ineffective weapon, such as pepper spray [/*:m:2m7xgdok]
• an effective weapon, such as a firearm [/*:m:2m7xgdok]

13. If I choose to defend myself with a firearm, I would favor the...

• least effective type possible [/*:m:2m7xgdok]
• most effective type possible [/*:m:2m7xgdok]

14. Criminals often gang up on a single victim. Shooting accurately under stress is often difficult and more than one shot may be required to stop each attacker.

If defending myself with a firearm, I would want the magazine to hold...

• one round [/*:m:2m7xgdok]
• six rounds [/*:m:2m7xgdok]
• ten rounds[/*:m:2m7xgdok]
• 30 rounds[/*:m:2m7xgdok]

15. Some say that just owning a gun would make you a violent person; if I just had a handgun, I would...

• go shoot up the nearest fast food restaurant [/*:m:2m7xgdok]
• go shoot up the nearest Army base [/*:m:2m7xgdok]
• kill somebody I know next time I get angry [/*:m:2m7xgdok]
• none of the above. I would continue to be a peaceful person. [/*:m:2m7xgdok]
• act even more politely than before so as to avoid confrontations [/*:m:2m7xgdok]

16. Now let's talk about what other people would do.
Police officers carry high-capacity handguns and store shotguns or submachine guns in patrol cars because...

• the cops are evil and want to kill innocents.[/*:m:2m7xgdok]
• police deparments cannot afford tanks.[/*:m:2m7xgdok]
• such firearms are effective means of self-defense[/*:m:2m7xgdok]

17. If all guns were outlawed, I think that all criminals would...

• turn in their weapons to police and become model citizens.[/*:m:2m7xgdok]
• turn in their guns and beg for small change[/*:m:2m7xgdok]
• keep their guns and prey on disarmed law-abiding people.[/*:m:2m7xgdok]

18. If a person planning robbery, rape or murder cannot get a handgun, they would think...

• "I better stay home tonight and get a job in the morning".[/*:m:2m7xgdok]
• "I will buy an illegal gun from my drug supplier, then go kill".[/*:m:2m7xgdok]
• "I will grab a knife or a baseball bat instead". [/*:m:2m7xgdok]

19. A rapist choosing between two victims (one armed, one unarmed), would prefer to...

• attack the armed one, so he could "take her gun and use it against her".[/*:m:2m7xgdok]
• attack the unarmed one because that would be less hazardous.[/*:m:2m7xgdok]
• not to mess with either, as he can't tell which one is armed.[/*:m:2m7xgdok]

20. Someone planning a drive-by shooting would use...

• only legal 10-round magazines because they plan to get caught.[/*:m:2m7xgdok]
• anything he wants because he doesn't plan to get caught.[/*:m:2m7xgdok]

Source: http://www.a-human-right.com/

Lets see how people here stack up.

 

[Nick]

1. My level of familiarity with firearms is:

* I am ignorant of how they function.
* I know the basics of gun safety.
* I carry for self-defense, compete or hunt.
* I am an firearms instructor.
* I know how guns function from watching TV.


2. I would prefer that my kids learn about guns and safety from:

* Mass media, such as television
* Classmates
* Army or National Guard drill sergeant
* Coach at school
* A certified instructor
* Me or my spouse


Before completing this, please remember that possession of firearms by felons is already illegal in the United States and Canada. Therefore, you should not suggest "prohibiting criminals from having guns" as a solution: the law already does that. We have also seen that the laws are not very effective in preventing possession. Do consider, however, the effects of your suggestions on you, personally.


3. Is it morally correct for a police officer to shoot in order to save an innocent victim from an attack?

* Yes. (not necessarily to kill)
* No.


4. If no police officer is present is it morally correct for the innocent victim to shoot to protect self or dependents from an attack?

* Yes. (not necessarily to kill)
* No.


5.The proper response to a drive-by shooting is...

* prohibit you and other law-abiding citizens from buying the type of the car used by the perpetrator.
* prohibit you and other law-abiding citizens from buying the type of the gun used by the perpetrator. (depends on what the gun was)
* prosecute the perpetrator of the crime



6.The proper response to an arson is...

* prohibit you and other law-abiding citizens from buying gasoline.
* prohibit you and other law-abiding citizens from buying any flammable fluids, matches and lighters.
* prosecute the perpetrator of the crime


7.The proper response to electronic fraud...

* prohibit you and other law-abiding citizens from buying computers.
* limit you and other law-abiding citizens to computers that have no more than two of the following features: 66MHz or faster processor, 14.4 baud or faster modem, 8MB or more RAM, 500MB or larger hard drive.
* prosecute the perpetrator of the crime


8.Over my lifetime, it is: (Pick one) that I or my family would be intended victim of a criminal.

* Not likely
* Possible
* Likely


9. If I am confronted with a life-threatening situation, police will: (pick one) be there in time to prevent any damage.

* Always
* Possibly
* Unlikely


10. If my child or my spouse were assaulted, I would...

* run away and hope my kid or spouse can keep up with me
* be a good witness so I can tell the cops what happened later
* try to convince the attacker to stop through verbal persuasion
* fight to stop the attack


11. If I choose to resist, my primary concern would be...

* health of my attacker
* my own safety



12. Given a choice, I would prefer to defend myself with...

* my bare hands
* an ineffective weapon, such as pepper spray
* an effective weapon, such as a firearm



13. If I choose to defend myself with a firearm, I would favor the...

* least effective type possible
* most effective type possible (yeah, such as a tank) :D



14. Criminals often gang up on a single victim. Shooting accurately under stress is often difficult and more than one shot may be required to stop each attacker.

If defending myself with a firearm, I would want the magazine to hold...

* one round
* six rounds
* ten rounds
* 30 rounds why not an ammo bet?


15. Some say that just owning a gun would make you a violent person; if I just had a handgun, I would...

* go shoot up the nearest fast food restaurant
* go shoot up the nearest Army base
* kill somebody I know next time I get angry
* none of the above. I would continue to be a peaceful person.
* act even more politely than before so as to avoid confrontations


16. Now let's talk about what other people would do.
Police officers carry high-capacity handguns and store shotguns or submachine guns in patrol cars because...

* the cops are evil and want to kill innocents.
* police deparments cannot afford tanks.
* such firearms are effective means of self-defense


17. If all guns were outlawed, I think that all criminals would...

* turn in their weapons to police and become model citizens.
* turn in their guns and beg for small change
* keep their guns and prey on disarmed law-abiding people.


18. If a person planning robbery, rape or murder cannot get a handgun, they would think...

* "I better stay home tonight and get a job in the morning".
* "I will buy an illegal gun from my drug supplier, then go kill".
* "I will grab a knife or a baseball bat instead".



19. A rapist choosing between two victims (one armed, one unarmed), would prefer to...

* attack the armed one, so he could "take her gun and use it against her".
* attack the unarmed one because that would be less hazardous.
* not to mess with either, as he can't tell which one is armed.


20. Someone planning a drive-by shooting would use...

* only legal 10-round magazines because they plan to get caught.
* anything he wants because he doesn't plan to get caught.


You might be surprised

 

[jasoncran]

nick you do realize that in a life or death situation the guy having the intent to kill you may be on so much drugs that even mma wont work . some cops shoot a suspect and they still die as the suspect will continue to shoot as they are on cocaine and shoot back or function long enough that they will pump all thier blood out .

if it wasnt overly groutesgue for some here i would find those vids and post them

funny i had this conversation with a fellow believer and cop and bjj training partner.

 

[Nick]

nick you do realize that in a life or death situation the guy having the intent to kill you may be on so much drugs that even mma wont work . some cops shoot a suspect and they still die as the suspect will continue to shoot as they are on cocaine and shoot back or function long enough that they will pump all thier blood out .

Yes, I do realise that.

 

[jasoncran]

ok, then i was wondering that about your comment on a law that allows civilians to defend themselves with lethat force, in certain situations.
you seemed to disagree.

 

[Nick]

ok, then i was wondering that about your comment on a law that allows civilians to defend themselves with lethat force, in certain situations.
you seemed to disagree.

Which question are you referring to?

 

[jasoncran]

ok, then i was wondering that about your comment on a law that allows civilians to defend themselves with lethat force, in certain situations.
you seemed to disagree.

Which question are you referring to?

#4

you said not necessarily to kill.

while some person will stop in the first shot can be said that many wont, and that until the person actually ceases grip of the gun, he or she may still be a threat.
nick that first shot may miss and it's best to unload the whole clip. of course i have some training with the firearm assigned to me and related training to know when to shoot and where. but i would love all the happy. fun training i can get. when craps hits the fan and the pucker factor is so high that you can smell it, your ability to shoot accurate drops, and the more training you get the better.

my friend whom i mentioned is a cop with the city i work for here in florida, he never goes anywhere withour his piece. even to church he has it on him, and his badge, why? because the fact that he has put men in jail and some may want to "make things right" and should the situation arise where a rape, or violent crime occurs he wants to be effective when off duty.

 

[Nick]

ok, then i was wondering that about your comment on a law that allows civilians to defend themselves with lethat force, in certain situations.
you seemed to disagree.

Which question are you referring to?

#4

you said not necessarily to kill.

while some person will stop in the first shot can be said that many wont, and that until the person actually ceases grip of the gun, he or she may still be a threat.
nick that first shot may miss and it's best to unload the whole clip. of course i have some training with the firearm assigned to me and related training to know when to shoot and where. but i would love all the happy. fun training i can get. when craps hits the fan and the pucker factor is so high that you can smell it, your ability to shoot accurate drops, and the more training you get the better.

my friend whom i mentioned is a cop with the city i work for here in florida, he never goes anywhere withour his piece. even to church he has it on him, and his badge, why? because the fact that he has put men in jail and some may want to "make things right" and should the situation arise where a rape, or violent crime occurs he wants to be effective when off duty.

Of course more than one shot may be required. All I'm saying is that try your best not to kill the person unless it's absolutely necessary.

 

[jasoncran]

uh, as an military police officer, we shoot to kill or till the perp cease hostile actions.
he drops the weapon and obeys the command to wit i did say that. but he gettin at least three in the chest from me. for the first will be off and the other two will get right the mark where i am aiming center mass( the heart and lungs).

always, shoot to kill, if he stops and surrenders then cease fire. and then call the cops. let them get him aid and handle the legal issues( you will be questioned and held till it can be proven that you had the right to shot back)

 

[Nick]

uh, as an military police officer, we shoot to kill or till the perp cease hostile actions.
he drops the weapon and obeys the command to wit i did say that. but he gettin at least three in the chest from me. for the first will be off and the other two will get right the mark where i am aiming center mass( the heart and lungs).

always, shoot to kill, if he stops and surrenders then cease fire. and then call the cops. let them get him aid and handle the legal issues( you will be questioned and held till it can be proven that you had the right to shot back)

What? So shoot to kill and just in case your three shots in the chest missed him, luckily for him since he surrendered.
Sorry, I would give them a chance to live first. I know you've got a military background and it works differently there, but we're talking about general self defense here, i.e. someone comes into your house at night or whatever.

 

[jasoncran]

uh, as an military police officer, we shoot to kill or till the perp cease hostile actions.
he drops the weapon and obeys the command to wit i did say that. but he gettin at least three in the chest from me. for the first will be off and the other two will get right the mark where i am aiming center mass( the heart and lungs).

always, shoot to kill, if he stops and surrenders then cease fire. and then call the cops. let them get him aid and handle the legal issues( you will be questioned and held till it can be proven that you had the right to shot back)

What? So shoot to kill and just in case your three shots in the chest missed him, luckily for him since he surrendered. that what a cop is trained to do. and i have been trained in both, my cop friend says the same thing. that is what he said and the cop guardsmen taught me. if they come into my house to steal then they have one warning , i yell have a gun while its drawn and pointed, get on the ground and dont move. if i see movment then i shoot. that is what the laws says i can do. nick this is hard thing for you since have been taught to take a life and put in the situation where it might be needed. even cops kill because they have when they shoot. trust me they rather you surrrender but if you watch those videos you will see that they give every chance to the suspect. but if he points and continues in a threating manner he or she goes down.not one shoot look and see if he still a kicking and then shoots, no shoots and as he reacquiring target notices the perp falling to the ground and ceases to shoot then aprehends him.
Sorry, I would give them a chance to live first. I know you've got a military background and it works differently there, but we're talking about general self defense here, i.e. someone comes into your house at night or whatever.

 

[Nick]

uh, as an military police officer, we shoot to kill or till the perp cease hostile actions.
he drops the weapon and obeys the command to wit i did say that. but he gettin at least three in the chest from me. for the first will be off and the other two will get right the mark where i am aiming center mass( the heart and lungs).

always, shoot to kill, if he stops and surrenders then cease fire. and then call the cops. let them get him aid and handle the legal issues( you will be questioned and held till it can be proven that you had the right to shot back)

What? So shoot to kill and just in case your three shots in the chest missed him, luckily for him since he surrendered. that what a cop is trained to do. and i have been trained in both, my cop friend says the same thing. that is what he said and the cop guardsmen taught me. if they come into my house to steal then they have one warning , i yell have a gun while its drawn and pointed, get on the ground and dont move. if i see movment then i shoot. that is what the laws says i can do. nick this is hard thing for you since have been taught to take a life and put in the situation where it might be needed. even cops kill because they have when they shoot. trust me they rather you surrrender but if you watch those videos you will see that they give every chance to the suspect. but if he points and continues in a threating manner he or she goes down.not one shoot look and see if he still a kicking and then shoots, no shoots and as he reacquiring target notices the perp falling to the ground and ceases to shoot then aprehends him.
Sorry, I would give them a chance to live first. I know you've got a military background and it works differently there, but we're talking about general self defense here, i.e. someone comes into your house at night or whatever.

I understand what you're saying Jason, in your last post. But the problem I'm finding is that in an earlier post you said "always shoot to kill". It seems you might have contradicted yourself.

 

[jasoncran]

once you fire yes, that is point he is trying to kill you , that means when you aim, you aim for vital organs, once the threat is stopped, he is dead or ceases to be a threat then only then do you holster the weapon, and beleive me if you can escape by all means do so, lets not play hero.

that is for the cop he does the hero thing, he is the one will follow the suspect if the suspect flees and we arent if we draw and he drops the weapon.

and of course get the law and ambulance coming.

 

[Mysteryman]

John the quiz is too long - :D

I will simply say that I am a peaceful person, and love life and the same for others.

I was born with a gun in my hands. I lived in the country all of my life, which includes fishing and hunting just about anything the flys, crawls, or runs or hops. I also ate them all.

I can take apart my rifles while blind folded. I am an expert in firearms. It also was my specialty while in the Army. Small arms specialists, and supply division. I can shoot a fly off of the rack of a deer at 100 yards while a deer is feeding, and the deer will not flinch.

I love my winchester 30 - 30 lever action, open sites, which holds seven shots. If need be, I can take out 21 perpetrators with seven shots if the need arises. You must know which parts of the body will only slow down the bullet but continue on. I love some of the sniper rifles that are made today. Such awesome fire power . In the right hands, they can take out a target at over a mile away.

Being more of an outdoorsman, I love the hunt and tactic of hunting the game.

In self defense, its either me or the other guy. I would put my money on myself.

Did I pass your test ? :D

 

[GojuBrian]

You know my answers already. :D

I've picked up a couple more lately too. :shades