Study Confirms Flu Shot Makes You Sicker

[tim-from-pa]

They say not because they are injecting you with dead viruses and they can't make you sick. But I have my own theory: your body is so busy fighting off dead-beat viruses that like a depleted army fighting one enemy there's no antibodies left to fight similar diseases, and thus you get sicker with everything else (just not sick against the one thing they inoculated you against).

http://www.setyoufreenews.com/2012/09/26/study-confirms-flu-shot-makes-you-sicker/

I have a better solution: eat right (non-processed foods), get your vitamins and minerals, and plenty of sunlight. In the winter go to a tanning saloon instead with beds that have UVB so that your body can produce flu-eliminating vitamin D protection.

Oh, that's right! Michele Obamama et al with this new health coverage want to tax those people extra for tanning beds because they are a high risk health liability on us all while people who take 5 medications but have their numbers under control are "healthy" and that's how we should all be!

Oh, silly me! Now go get your flu shot, take your cholesterol pills and surf on your Microsoft computer like a good sheep. :toofunny

 

[evenifigoalone]

I've always avoided the flu shots because I feel like they're unnecessary.

I rarely ever get sick. I did get what felt like the flu a couple of times last year, but that was the first time I had been really sick in years.

 

[tim-from-pa]

I've always avoided the flu shots because I feel like they're unnecessary.

I rarely ever get sick. I did get what felt like the flu a couple of times last year, but that was the first time I had been really sick in years.

You brought up an interesting point, but I want to apply that to just the flu in this case. Have you noticed that some people get the flu and others don't(at least not severely)? It makes me wonder if some people have biological differences that make the virus able to grow in one person and not the other. An extreme example is comparing colds in cats vs humans. Your cat won't catch your cold. Why? Their biology is different and the virus can't grow in that medium. However, they catch stuff we don't as well.

So, I said I never remember getting the flu in the 53 years of my life. The inoculation advocates then say, "Don't be ridiculous. You better get the shot or you'll be sick like I was when I got the flu!" I then proceeded to ask, "well, what were the symptoms?" "Oh they are terrible! You have a very high fever, you have a dry, hacking cough, you can't move or get out of bed, and it feels like a Mack Truck hit you for about a week you're incapacitated!" "Oh, really? Never was that way in all my life! Sorry to hear that you get this way every year!"

Nevertheless, they insist everyone gets them because they believe everyone is sickly like them. Or to put it another way, I find that belief as nonsensical as going to the vet for a distemper shot along with your cat. :toofunny

 

[jasoncran]

2my wife hasnt had the flu shot and never has gotten it.im forced to get it by the army and yet some times when they give it to me . i get the symptoms of the flu.
im not a fan of that shot.

 

[Corey]

A few things that could be happening (just a hypothesis though):

• People who get sick more frequently are probably the ones that are the most likely to get the vaccine. So lets say Group A gets the shot, and a majority of them get sick frequently. And group B does not take the shot because most of them never get sick. Group A is more likely to get sick, but mostly because they have always been more likely, not because they took the shot. These types of studies make for interesteing reads, but findings like this are not proof. (I have no idea how this study was done though)
• Also, most of these types of studies are done by patients reporting their symptoms, rather than a doctor actually giving an exam. If the person knows they have taken the flu shot, they are probably more likely to "feel", and remember "flu-like" symptoms than a person who has not gotten the shot. (Again, I have no idea how this study was done though)

I sometimes get the shot and sometimes do not. It just depends on if I think about it or if it is convenient for me every year.

 

[tim-from-pa]

People who get sick more frequently are probably the ones that are the most likely to get the vaccine. So lets say Group A gets the shot, and a majority of them get sick frequently. And group B does not take the shot because most of them never get sick. Group A is more likely to get sick, but mostly because they have always been more likely, not because they took the shot. These types of studies make for interesteing reads, but findings like this are not proof. (I have no idea how this study was done though)

Good point, and that may generally be the case, but there's definite exceptions. I and my father were those exceptions when we hardly ever got sick. As a matter of fact I prided myself on not even taking an antibiotic for 14 years. But then one year I tried the flu shot once because my wife and sister-in-law were pressuring me. They said the flu was really bad that year and even resulted in pneumonia.

Well, I got the flu shot and guess what I ended up with? Pneumonia! I was sick 5 times that year, and two of the times I needed antibiotics. Of course they say it's "coincidence". Oh yeah? The same thing happened to my father when he got the shot --- had bronchitis. Then each and every year thereafter I gradually got better and better, but took me 3 years to get back to normal. In other words I could see my health improving in a linear fashion. Me thinks coincidence and chance would have some bad years, some good years and some in between. Not 14 years without an antibiotic, then "suddenly" sicker than a dog, and then a logical progression to being better by "chance' alone. That's not being statistical for those who would argue it was by chance. That's showing their obtuse understanding of statistics.

So, how am I today? Well, again I can't remember the last time I had an antibiotic. If this is all chance, I should have won the lottery by now.

 

[Knotical]

I have not had the flu, seriously, since I was a kid. And that was only before I got by tonsils taken out. Since then I have not had the flu shot, and all I really get is a cold every now and then. I just dose myself with vitamin C and grapefruit seed extract and I usually kick it pretty quick.

[csb]The last time I took cold medicine I took some nyquil right before I was supposed to go to bible study. I laid down for what I thought would be just a few minutes, I ended up waking up a half hour after I was supposed to be there and decided to just stay home.[/csb]

 

[Blev]

I have not had the flu, seriously, since I was a kid. And that was only before I got by tonsils taken out. Since then I have not had the flu shot, and all I really get is a cold every now and then. I just dose myself with vitamin C and grapefruit seed extract and I usually kick it pretty quick

[csb]The last time I took cold medicine I took some nyquil right before I was supposed to go to bible study. I laid down for what I thought would be just a few minutes, I ended up waking up a half hour after I was supposed to be there and decided to just stay home.[/csb]

The reason you konked out that long is because Nyquil is about 80% alcohol!

 

[Knotical]

The reason you konked out that long is because Nyquil is about 80% alcohol!

Exactly. This is why I don't take medication anymore. If I am stuffed up I just take some CL7 to break up the mucus (sorry to anyone who is eating while reading this ;)).

 

[Blev]

I don't get the flu shot it makes me sick. I know the Great Physician, He paid for my healing and keeps me well

Who his own self bore our sins in his own body on the tree, that we, being dead to sins, should live to righteousness: by whose stripes you were healed (1 Peter 2:24)

But he was wounded for our transgressions, he was bruised for our iniquities: the chastisement of our peace was on him; and with his stripes we are healed. (Isaiah 53:5)

 

[Knotical]

I don't get the flu shot it makes me sick. I know the Great Physician, He paid for my healing and keeps me well

Who his own self bore our sins in his own body on the tree, that we, being dead to sins, should live to righteousness: by whose stripes you were healed (1 Peter 2:24)

But he was wounded for our transgressions, he was bruised for our iniquities: the chastisement of our peace was on him; and with his stripes we are healed. (Isaiah 53:5)

Granted, however, there is something to be said for legitimate medical care for things we cannot fix ourselves.

 

[tim-from-pa]

I don't get the flu shot it makes me sick. I know the Great Physician, He paid for my healing and keeps me well

Who his own self bore our sins in his own body on the tree, that we, being dead to sins, should live to righteousness: by whose stripes you were healed (1 Peter 2:24)

But he was wounded for our transgressions, he was bruised for our iniquities: the chastisement of our peace was on him; and with his stripes we are healed. (Isaiah 53:5)

The replies here are encouraging, because I see a lot of people rather trust in the Lord. He gave us natural, disease-fighting things to consume as well. And there are several testimonies that flu shots do indeed make one sicker (if not with the flu, something else at least).

The reason you konked out that long is because Nyquil is about 80% alcohol!

That's so true, and as a kid I remember that was what my dad used to joke about. Of the few times he got a cold, he'd take a shot of Nyquil and told me it was really a shot of liquor and that was the real reason for feeling better. . With my righteous mom, I swear that was probably the most alcohol that man ever drank. :toofunny

 

[Knotical]

The replies here are encouraging, because I see a lot of people rather trust in the Lord. He gave us natural, disease-fighting things to consume as well. And there are several testimonies that flu shots do indeed make one sicker (if not with the flu, something else at least).

That's so true, and as a kid I remember that was what my dad used to joke about. Of the few times he got a cold, he'd take a shot of Nyquil and told me it was really a shot of liquor and that was the real reason for feeling better. . With my righteous mom, I swear that was probably the most alcohol that man ever drank. :toofunny

I knew a guy who would just down a whole bottle of the stuff if he got a cold. Of course he was out cold for a good 12 hours, but he woke up feeling much better.

 

[Blev]

Granted, however, there is something to be said for legitimate medical care for things we cannot fix ourselves.

Sure. The doctors can't heal, only Jesus can. But if a person isn't recieving healing for some reason, the doctors can help the symptoms until they slowly get better. And of course there are times when surgery is necessary, or broken bones, etc.

 

[Blev]

With my righteous mom, I swear that was probably the most alcohol that man ever drank. :toofunny

Even with the 'righteous' moms and grandmoms, some people can think back to when they were very little and grandmother would give them a hot toddy. It was so strong, nothing could stay in you, it would knock ANY sickness out of your body!

 

[Blev]

I knew a guy who would just down a whole bottle of the stuff if he got a cold. Of course he was out cold for a good 12 hours, but he woke up feeling much better.

I can't believe he drank the whole thing! :biglol I'm sure he wasn't feeling anything for a long time

 

[tim-from-pa]

Even with the 'righteous' moms and grandmoms, some people can think back to when they were very little and grandmother would give them a hot toddy. It was so strong, nothing could stay in you, it would knock ANY sickness out of your body!

Not to get off the subject, but did you know that Queen Mum always had that one shot of gin everyday? Just one, mind you, but she lived to 102. God bless her.

 

[Drew]

I don't get the flu shot it makes me sick. I know the Great Physician, He paid for my healing and keeps me well

Who his own self bore our sins in his own body on the tree, that we, being dead to sins, should live to righteousness: by whose stripes you were healed (1 Peter 2:24)

But he was wounded for our transgressions, he was bruised for our iniquities: the chastisement of our peace was on him; and with his stripes we are healed. (Isaiah 53:5)

I politely suggest you are embracing a false either / or - the belief that God only heals in modes that bypass "conventional medecine".

I suggest this is not the Biblical picture - God very often works through the creation that He is in process of redeeming. I suggest that the advance of medical technology is one mode - and a major mode at that - by which God heals.

 

[tim-from-pa]

I politely suggest you are embracing a false either / or - the belief that God only heals in modes that bypass "conventional medecine".

I suggest this is not the Biblical picture - God very often works through the creation that He is in process of redeeming. I suggest that the advance of medical technology is one mode - and a major mode at that - by which God heals.

I won't deny that's a possibility. And that includes natural stuff. But if you notice a lot of the things I point out in these threads, much of the medical world certainly does not have everything right yet, and there's certainly some treatments and "advice" that I would definitely avoid.

 

[Blev]

I politely suggest you are embracing a false either / or - the belief that God only heals in modes that bypass "conventional medecine".

I suggest this is not the Biblical picture - God very often works through the creation that He is in process of redeeming. I suggest that the advance of medical technology is one mode - and a major mode at that - by which God heals.

I never said that a person should not go to the dr or take medicine. I was just testifying what the Lord has done for me.
Its fine to take medicine and if you need surgery or have a broken bone for instance, by all means go to the dr. But actually the dr will tell you himself he can't heal you, but some things can hold down the symptoms until you get better.

The Lord has created us in such a way the if we take care of ourselves eat right and exercise, many people will be more healthy than if they didn't