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Testimonies from Ex-Roman Catholic Priests and Others

stray bullet said:
Now, I'm going to let you all know right now that you are taking part in bearing false witness in that you are posting supposed testimony's which are outright lies about Catholicism.

If you have a complaint, then tell me what it is against the Church. Don't post someone's else words and hide behind them, in an effort to spread more lies and myths.

Tell me, what's wrong with the Church? I can say with almost certainity that your complaints are complaints against the myths and lies you are attempting to spread here, on a Christian forum of all things.

This is a thread for the posting of testimonies of Ex-Roman Catholic priests and others. If you have a question or statement other than a testimony, please start another thread.

Get back on topic, and if you do not have a testimony from an Ex-Roman Catholic Priest or another Ex-Catholic, then post elsewhere.

Thanks.
 
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Please get back on topic! If you do not have a testimony from an

Ex-Roman Catholic Priest or other Ex-Roman Catholic, do not post nthisthread.

All questions and/or discussions relating to this topic can be debated on

another thread indicating topic of discussion.

Thank you.


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Imagican said:
stray bullet said:
Now, I'm going to let you all know right now that you are taking part in bearing false witness in that you are posting supposed testimony's which are outright lies about Catholicism.

If you have a complaint, then tell me what it is against the Church. Don't post someone's else words and hide behind them, in an effort to spread more lies and myths.

Tell me, what's wrong with the Church? I can say with almost certainity that your complaints are complaints against the myths and lies you are attempting to spread here, on a Christian forum of all things.

Stray,

Once again, you offer ALL the proof one needs to discern the 'faith' that YOU follow. Denial of the 'truth' is NOTHING short of admission of guilt. No one has accused YOU of ANYTHING other than denial of the 'truth'. But LOOK at what you accsue 'others' of; spreading lies, bearing false witness, heck, you even go so far as to indicate that these stories are 'made up' or something. You are so 'blinded' by your faith that you are un-willing to 'see' the 'truth' when offered by those of YOUR SAME FAITH. Hurts to find out that you've been 'duped' huh? Yes is does. I followed a 'different' father for many years and when I finally came to the 'truth' I felt UTTERLY betrayed,,,,,AS IT SHOULD BE. Now it's up to YOU to accept the 'truth' and deal with it accordingly. Otherwise, you will constantly be at odds with your faith. Let it go, my friend, for it doesn't HAVE to BE this way. There is freedom through the 'truth', instead of the bonds of deceit, to be found through the Word of God. But one must let go of their 'wishes' and follow the will of God.

MEC

Could you tell me one thing from these testimony's you find fault in with the Catholic Church? Because you can name just about anything and I'll show it is a lie.

You can expect to post a bunch of false witnesses, myths and lies and then get upset I don't accept them and in fact, show them for what they are.

They are not the truth- they are false witnesses to what the Church believes and that is sinful. I know because I know what the Church believes. If you realize that you are posting lies, then you are breaking a commandment.

Now, tell me one complaint you have against the Church in any of these testimony's and I will rebuke you and show you these are lies.
 
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I recognize that some must continue without regard for rules, but it is

imperative for social discussion that courtesy must be followed. This is not an

anti-Roman Catholic Thread with the intent of causing disharmony. It is a

thread of testimonies of those who have found freedom from the teachings

of the Roman Catholic Church that they have found to not align with the

scriptures. Their testimonies show their continued abiding in Christ Jesus, the

Lord of Lords, and King of Kings.

Please get back on topic and cease from hijacking this thread!

If you do not have a testimony from an Ex-Roman Catholic Priest or other Ex-Roman Catholic, do not post on this thread.

All questions and/or discussions relating to this topic can be debated on another thread indicating topic of discussion.

Thank you.


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See Stray, if you would read the Word instead of relying on others to 'tell you' what's in it, you would KNOW how deceitful 'your' church has been to you.

1 Timothy 3:2-7

additions in parenthasis MINE:

2A bishop then must be blameless, (MUST BE), the husband of one wife, (MUST BE), vigilant, (MUST BE), sober, (MUST BE), of good behaviour, (MUST BE), given to hospitality, (MUST BE), apt to teach;

(If you don't understand it as 'pointed out', then read on to the NEXT verse. It will THEN become APPARENT that what I have offered IS how it is meant to be read).

3Not given to wine, no striker, not greedy of filthy lucre; but patient, not a brawler, not covetous;

(Get it?)

4One that ruleth well his own house, having his children in subjection with all gravity;

5(For if a man know not how to rule his own house, how shall he take care of the church of God?) (Now, how could a man be one that RULETH his OWN house without being married with children?)

6Not a novice, lest being lifted up with pride he fall into the condemnation of the devil.

7Moreover he must have a good report of them which are without; lest he fall into reproach and the snare of the devil.

Now, you may interpret this ANY WAY you see fit. But, the 'truth' speaks for itself. The word MUST is 'self evident' and takes NO interpretation. And we have The Word which PLAINLY states that a BISHOP MUST be.........

Now, there is another verse in The Word that COMMANDS that we FORBID NOT TO WED. Do you know 'where' this verse is? Yet 'your' church forbids certain members of the clergy to wed. TOTALLY contradictory to The Word.

Sorry guys. NOT trying to hijack. Just offering explanation to the replies concerning the TOPIC of this thread.

MEC
 
Solo,

My apologies, my friend. I won't let it happen again.

MEC
 
Ok Solo meant for this topic to go one way and we I included took it off topic.
And I am sorry about that. So post nothing else in this thread off topic, or I will remove it. And if you all need to, I included make a new topic somewhere. I will not ask you all to do something that I wouldn't do. I love you all. And I love you too, Stray, and I mean that.
 
stray bullet said:
Well, no wonder these men left the Church, they had no idea what it taught. I don't think one testimony complained about the Church for what it actually did or believed.

I guess it's good they aren't priest anymore.

The OP book's testimonies were all from ex-priests, ex-monks, ex-nuns, most of whom had gone thru RC schools, colleges & uni's as well as seminary, etc - 1 had even done post-grad training in Rome

& all of them said that various RC dogma & practices were wrong & unbiblical

Very much reminded me of the rubbish pumped into me in Anglo-Catholic primary school, that turned me into an atheist for 2/3 years when I was getting 1-2-1 training from a 6' 5" priest

What turned me atheist was when he said, in all seriousness, that if you pray with your hands pointing down - (I'd only dropped them a second earlier, as my wrists ached from pointing hands vertical for so long) - then you were praying to the devil

He was kinda too big & intimidating to question or argue with, but my inner reaction & rejection of his lies was instant: I thought, "If God is so stupid that He doesn't know I'm talking to Him, I don't believe in Him any more"

The real reason I said nowt was that, as a choir soloist, I was on a higher pay rate than most adult choristers, but I'd sit pulling tongues at the carvings of 'saints' that they were bowing to, to prove that it was all a sham & no-one could see me

When I finally told my parents that I would never go back, they said, "What you have rejected isn't the gospel anyway: we've been very concerned @ that for some time"

Must go
 
francisdesales said:
In the vast majority of cases, I have found that those priests who fall away from the Church do so for romantic inclinations, not intellectual problems with the doctrines of the Church. That comes later to justify their decision to leave. It just doesn't sound very good when someone makes the claim they left Rome because of a romantic interlude, so they bring up the usual strawman arguments that can plainly be shot down by refering to the Catechism. Such posts are meant for people who are not aware of Catholic teachings, merely preying on the ignorant and uneducated.

I usually see such posts only AFTER some former Protestant gives a witness to how they have swam the Tiber. The reasoning is clear... Protestantism would dry up and die if people knew the Truth.

Regards




I didn't leave for any romantic involvements!
 
francisdesales said:
In the vast majority of cases, I have found that those priests who fall away from the Church do so for romantic inclinations, not intellectual problems with the doctrines of the Church.....
OK, name this "vast majority of cases"...

This thread has shown scores of testimonies of Roman Catholic priests who have NOT left for "romantic inclinations".... unless you include wanting to have a real personal relationship with our Lord Jesus Christ as a "romantic inclination."

I suspect you are clutching at straws again.

Name your "vast majority".... give links. Give e-mail addresses. Prove your point. I doubt you can.
 
Steve said:
francisdesales said:
In the vast majority of cases, I have found that those priests who fall away from the Church do so for romantic inclinations, not intellectual problems with the doctrines of the Church. That comes later to justify their decision to leave. It just doesn't sound very good when someone makes the claim they left Rome because of a romantic interlude, so they bring up the usual strawman arguments that can plainly be shot down by refering to the Catechism. Such posts are meant for people who are not aware of Catholic teachings, merely preying on the ignorant and uneducated.

I usually see such posts only AFTER some former Protestant gives a witness to how they have swam the Tiber. The reasoning is clear... Protestantism would dry up and die if people knew the Truth.

Regards

I didn't leave for any romantic involvements!

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Hi, John here:
It seems that we see this from the wrong angel? There was Christ's 'very own' church, Israel. They rejected Him! So who left whom??

Now, did the church leave you, or did your leave the church, that question is much more accurate it seems to me?

But as far as Rome goes, they never were Christs church to begin with.
 
Gary said:
francisdesales said:
In the vast majority of cases, I have found that those priests who fall away from the Church do so for romantic inclinations, not intellectual problems with the doctrines of the Church.....
OK, name this "vast majority of cases"...

Name them? I am speaking of personal experience. Do you want me to name names???

Gary said:
This thread has shown scores of testimonies of Roman Catholic priests who have NOT left for "romantic inclinations"....

So they CLAIM...


Gary said:
I suspect you are clutching at straws again.

I hadn't realized I had clutched straws to begin with...

Gary said:
Name your "vast majority".... give links. Give e-mail addresses. Prove your point. I doubt you can.

Nor do I think you can prove these so-called "ex-Roman Catholic priests". What is the point of continuing this line of conversation further? "Give me e-mails"! What are you talking about? I am going to give YOU e-mails? What kind of person do you take me for, to devulge such personal information to someone I don't know??

Regards
 
John the Baptist said:
But as far as Rome goes, they never were Christs church to begin with.

:P Oh, well, why didn't you say so...

Where do I sign up to enter that church invented in 1800 that IS the Church of Christ, then?

Keep trying...
 
francisdesales said:
John the Baptist said:
But as far as Rome goes, they never were Christs church to begin with.

:P Oh, well, why didn't you say so...

Where do I sign up to enter that church invented in 1800 that IS the Church of Christ, then?

Keep trying...

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John here: :wink:
Can't do that, Solo started the subject 'me' thinks? Anyway ... well :o , let me just post this so as to let him know that I tried to stay on subject, but you won't let me! :fadein: Anyway, Rome executed Christ & it is no differant than that of today! 2 Peter 2:19-22 is daily being documented by pope Peter, huh?
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francisdesales wrote:
In the vast majority of cases, I have found that those priests who fall away from the Church do so for romantic inclinations, not intellectual problems with the doctrines of the Church.....
Because they start to burn. And Pauls said if you can't contain yourself, it is better to marry than to burn.
 
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