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Presently we have the "Babies of God" in their various groups and denominations. All controlled by an evil spirit of strife. And all busy with their various doctrines. They don't know much and they are not much.


1 Cor. 3
1 And I, brethren, could not speak unto you as unto spiritual, but as unto carnal,even as unto babes in Christ.
2 I have fed you with milk, and not with meat: for hitherto ye were not able to bear it, neither yet now are ye able.
3 For ye are yet carnal: for whereas there is among you envying, and strife, and divisions, are ye not carnal?
4 For while one saith, I am of Paul; and another, I am of Apollos; are ye not carnal?
5 Who then is Paul, and who is Apollos, but ministers by whom ye believed, even as the Lord gave to every man?
6 I have planted, Apollos watered; but God gave the increase.
7 So then neither is he that planteth any thing, neither he that watereth; but God that giveth the increase
 
There are times when we receive so much meat from the word of God that we try and feed this meat to those who are barely on milk and all this does is leave those who we are trying to teach become lost and confused as to what we are talking about. Frustration and confusion may cause one to give up and never seek the truth of the word of God because they do not understand and need to be taught simple basics of Salvation.

Salvation means to be whole mind, body and soul as we surrender our will to God and allow his will to work in our lives by applying Gods word to every aspect of our lives. This allows us to know the mind of Christ and all the promises of God for our own well being so we can face anything that tries to come against us while here on this earth so we can triumph and be victorious through the grace and mercy of our Lord and Savior Christ Jesus. Grace pardons us and mercy loves us unconditionally.

Jesus was teaching Nicodemus in John 3:1-7 that it was a Spiritual rebirth or renewal of our spirit that through Gods spoken word we can reconcile our past sins through repentance to be made sinless again before God. We are all born with a sin nature because of sin being introduced into the world through Satan’s deceit when he told Eve it was alright to eat from the tree of knowledge of good and evil even though God forbid them to eat of it.

Our flesh will always sin because that is our nature and God can not see our flesh because of our sins nor can he hear the prayers of a sinner, John 9:31, and this is why we need to renew our Spiritual inner man because sin separates us from God as God is spirit, not flesh and blood, and can only recognize his own children by what spirit is living in their hearts. We have to renew, rebirth - born again, Gods Spirit within us in order to be called a child of God and see the kingdom of heaven. We now put off the old man (flesh) and put on the new man (Spirit). We are renewed by the word of God and through the Holy Spirit teaching us of all things, Romans 8:6, 8.

The basics we need to learn are written in Colossians 3:1-17 and if we follow these guidelines then we will remain in the will of God. The best place to start for learning and understanding Gods Salvation is reading the book of John to learn who Jesus was and is in our own lives and to know anyone can come unto Gods Salvation no matter who you are or what you have done God loves us all unconditionally.

We now have an intercessor (Jesus) who sits at the right hand of the Father and hears our confession that we are sinners and need his salvation as we believe in our heart that he was truly sent from God as the living word that we can indeed become righteous again not of our own righteousness, but that righteousness that is God whom through his Spirit is promised to dwell in us. All we have to do is believe and confess that we are sinners and allow Gods righteousness to cleanse us and renew our spirit man, John 3:5-7. Jesus wants us to come as we are and allow him to make the changes that need made in our hearts. People want to clean the fish before they catch them, but Jesus says come as you are I will clean you from the inside out.​
 
There are times when we receive so much meat from the word of God that we try and feed this meat to those who are barely on milk and all this does is leave those who we are trying to teach become lost and confused as to what we are talking about. Frustration and confusion may cause one to give up and never seek the truth of the word of God because they do not understand and need to be taught simple basics of Salvation.
Those in the Five Fold Ministry are able to raise God's Children.

Eph. 4
11 And he gave some, apostles; and some, prophets; and some, evangelists; and some, pastors and teachers;
12 For the perfecting of the saints, for the work of the ministry, for the edifying of the body of Christ:
13 Till we all come in the unity of the faith, and of the knowledge of the Son of God, unto a perfect man, unto the measure of the stature of the fulness of Christ:
14 That we henceforth be no more children, tossed to and fro, and carried about with every wind of doctrine, by the sleight of men, and cunning craftiness, whereby they lie in wait to deceive;


But most are caught in the evil spirit of groups.

Salvation means to be whole mind, body and soul as we surrender our will to God and allow his will to work in our lives by applying Gods word to every aspect of our lives. This allows us to know the mind of Christ and all the promises of God for our own well being so we can face anything that tries to come against us while here on this earth so we can triumph and be victorious through the grace and mercy of our Lord and Savior Christ Jesus. Grace pardons us and mercy loves us unconditionally.​
When The Five Fold Ministry operates it benefits those chosen to grow. Others just enjoy their Baby Lives.

Jesus was teaching Nicodemus in John 3:1-7 that it was a Spiritual rebirth or renewal of our spirit that through Gods spoken word we can reconcile our past sins through repentance to be made sinless again before God. We are all born with a sin nature because of sin being introduced into the world through Satan’s deceit when he told Eve it was alright to eat from the tree of knowledge of good and evil even though God forbid them to eat of it.​
Yep. We have to be born again. From God. In which He becomes our Father and we become His Child.


Our flesh will always sin because that is our nature and God can not see our flesh because of our sins nor can he hear the prayers of a sinner, John 9:31, and this is why we need to renew our Spiritual inner man because sin separates us from God as God is spirit, not flesh and blood, and can only recognize his own children by what spirit is living in their hearts. We have to renew, rebirth - born again, Gods Spirit within us in order to be called a child of God and see the kingdom of heaven. We now put off the old man (flesh) and put on the new man (Spirit). We are renewed by the word of God and through the Holy Spirit teaching us of all things, Romans 8:6, 8.​

Now in being born again our "flesh" died on the cross in Jesus.

Rom. 6
1 What shall we say then? Shall we continue in sin, that grace may abound?
2 God forbid. How shall we, that are dead to sin, live any longer therein?
3 Know ye not, that so many of us as were baptized into Jesus Christ were baptized into his death?
4 Therefore we are buried with him by baptism into death: that like as Christ was raised up from the dead by the glory of the Father, even so we also should walk in newness of life.
5 For if we have been planted together in the likeness of his death, we shall be also in the likeness of his resurrection:
6 Knowing this, that our old man is crucified with him, that the body of sin might be destroyed, that henceforth we should not serve sin.
7 For he that is dead is freed from sin.


The basics we need to learn are written in Colossians 3:1-17 and if we follow these guidelines then we will remain in the will of God. The best place to start for learning and understanding Gods Salvation is reading the book of John to learn who Jesus was and is in our own lives and to know anyone can come unto Gods Salvation no matter who you are or what you have done God loves us all unconditionally.​

When we are born again from God by His Word then we also need to grow up by His Word.

1 Peter 1
23 Being born again, not of corruptible seed, but of incorruptible, by the word of God, which liveth and abideth for ever.

1 Peter 2
2 As newborn babes, desire the sincere milk of the word, that ye may grow thereby:


We now have an intercessor (Jesus) who sits at the right hand of the Father and hears our confession that we are sinners and need his salvation as we believe in our heart that he was truly sent from God as the living word that we can indeed become righteous again not of our own righteousness, but that righteousness that is God whom through his Spirit is promised to dwell in us. All we have to do is believe and confess that we are sinners and allow Gods righteousness to cleanse us and renew our spirit man, John 3:5-7. Jesus wants us to come as we are and allow him to make the changes that need made in our hearts. People want to clean the fish before they catch them, but Jesus says come as you are I will clean you from the inside out.​

Actually God is One and has no "son". God Himself became flesh in The Word to be the Word to us.

1 Tim. 3
16 And without controversy great is the mystery of godliness: God was manifest in the flesh, justified in the Spirit, seen of angels, preached unto the Gentiles, believed on in the world, received up into glory.

To create us to be the Child or Son, Jesus, to Him.

Rom. 6
1 What shall we say then? Shall we continue in sin, that grace may abound?
2 God forbid. How shall we, that are dead to sin, live any longer therein?
3 Know ye not, that so many of us as were baptized into Jesus Christ were baptized into his death?
4 Therefore we are buried with him by baptism into death: that like as Christ was raised up from the dead by the glory of the Father, even so we also should walk in newness of life.
5 For if we have been planted together in the likeness of his death, we shall be also in the likeness of his resurrection:
6 Knowing this, that our old man is crucified with him, that the body of sin might be destroyed, that henceforth we should not serve sin.
7 For he that is dead is freed from sin.
8 Now if we be dead with Christ, we believe that we shall also live with him:
9 Knowing that Christ being raised from the dead dieth no more; death hath no more dominion over him.
10 For in that he died, he died unto sin once: but in that he liveth, he liveth unto God.
11 Likewise reckon ye also yourselves to be dead indeed unto sin, but alive unto God through Jesus Christ our Lord.
 
The saying goes "It takes a village to raise a child" and within the five fold ministry there should be no excuse for even one babe to fall away.
 
Actually God is One and has no "son". God Himself became flesh in The Word to be the Word to us.

You are in error for you do not know scripture.

God himself said," This is My Son.,"

Jesus himself referred to the Father, showing that he is the Son of God.

If you are in error on something as basic as the nature of God the odds are high that you are equally in error in your other teaching.
 
You are in error for you do not know scripture.

God himself said," This is My Son.,"

Jesus himself referred to the Father, showing that he is the Son of God.

If you are in error on something as basic as the nature of God the odds are high that you are equally in error in your other teaching.
God manifested the Word in Jesus. To create you to be that Son. God has no "son". God is One.

Deuteronomy 6:4
“Hear, O Israel! The Lord is our God, the Lord is one!

Zechariah 14:9
And the Lord will be king over all the earth; in that day the Lord will be the only one, and His name the only one.

The confusion was never there. Everybody always knew in the OT that there is but one Living God. And God made sure this was well known.

And then came the confusion. Jesus Christ in the NT. And suddenly you are confused too. Believing in 2 gods now. Or some even believe in 3 gods.

What you see in Scripture is the Word on the Relationship of Father and Son. The Word. And the Word of God creates the Reality. Which is you.

Gen. 1
3 And God said, Let there be light: and there was light.
4 And God saw the light, that it was good: and God divided the light from the darkness.

The Word of God was not the "real light". It created the real light. And Jesus is The Word of God that became flesh. Thus not the real Jesus. But the Word to create the Real Jesus. Which is you.
 
The saying goes "It takes a village to raise a child" and within the five fold ministry there should be no excuse for even one babe to fall away.
Sure. The Babies are of course saved. But just Babies. They could have been so much more. Because the Fullness of their Father was given them in The Word. Yet they are captured by that evil spirit of strife and Disciplined to stay Babies. They didn't obey God their Father. To stay far away from "divisions". They will just see "Canaan" but never enter. Just like Moses. But this does not mean they are not saved.
 
If one is not growing in knowledge then they can be carried away with the error of wickedness as they have no truth found in them. Why, because they stifle themselves thinking they are already saved just because they believe the name of Jesus, but do not believe in Jesus which is a big difference. None of us, even those who are mature in the knowledge of God's word are not yet saved as that does not happen until the Lord returns and we are caught up to Him on the last day.

Mat 24:13 But he that shall endure unto the end, the same shall be saved.

Many ignore or just never took the time to understand that verse. It's when we endure trials, temptations and tribulations brought about us from the evil principalities that rule over this world that if we endure all persecutions then Jesus saves us in the end from being cast into the lake of fire as our names are found written in the Lamb's book of life.

2 Peter 3:17 Ye therefore, beloved, seeing ye know these things before, beware lest ye also, being led away with the error of the wicked, fall from your own stedfastness.
2 Peter 3:18 But grow in grace, and in the knowledge of our Lord and Saviour Jesus Christ. To him be glory both now and for ever. Amen.

The basics we need to learn are written in Colossians 3:1-17 and if we follow these instructions then we will remain in the will of God. The best place to start for learning and understanding Gods Salvation as a babe in Christ is reading the book of John to learn who Jesus was and is in our own lives and to know anyone can come unto Gods Salvation no matter who you are or what you have done God loves us all unconditionally.

Just because one says they believe in Jesus does not mean they are Spiritually born again and Baptized in the Spirit as even the devils believe and trembled at His name.

James 2:19 Thou believest that there is one God; thou doest well: the devils also believe, and tremble.
James 2:20 But wilt thou know, O vain man, that faith without works is dead?
James 2:21 Was not Abraham our father justified by works, when he had offered Isaac his son upon the altar?
James 2:22 Seest thou how faith wrought with his works, and by works was faith made perfect?
James 2:23 And the scripture was fulfilled which saith, Abraham believed God, and it was imputed unto him for righteousness: and he was called the Friend of God.
James 2:24 Ye see then how that by works a man is justified, and not by faith only.
 
If one is not growing in knowledge then they can be carried away with the error of wickedness as they have no truth found in them. Why, because they stifle themselves thinking they are already saved just because they believe the name of Jesus, but do not believe in Jesus which is a big difference. None of us, even those who are mature in the knowledge of God's word are not yet saved as that does not happen until the Lord returns and we are caught up to Him on the last day.

Mat 24:13 But he that shall endure unto the end, the same shall be saved.
WE are saved by God when He died for us. Our acceptance of it seals our saving.

John 3
14 ¶And as Moses lifted up the serpent in the wilderness, even so must the Son of man be lifted up:
15 That whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have eternal life.
16 ¶For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have everlasting life.
17 For God sent not his Son into the world to condemn the world; but that the world through him might be saved.
18 ¶He that believeth on him is not condemned: but he that believeth not is condemned already, because he hath not believed in the name of the only begotten Son of God.



But of course we can fall away on the road.

2 Tim. 4
10 For Demas hath forsaken me, having loved this present world, and is departed unto Thessalonica; Crescens to Galatia, Titus unto Dalmatia.


Many ignore or just never took the time to understand that verse. It's when we endure trials, temptations and tribulations brought about us from the evil principalities that rule over this world that if we endure all persecutions then Jesus saves us in the end from being cast into the lake of fire as our names are found written in the Lamb's book of life.

We are not saved because we believe in God that died for our sins. If we keep our Faith until the end. And don't reject our Saving from God.

2 Peter 2
20 For if after they have escaped the pollutions of the world through the knowledge of the Lord and Saviour Jesus Christ, they are again entangled therein, and overcome, the latter end is worse with them than the beginning.
21 For it had been better for them not to have known the way of righteousness, than, after they have known it, to turn from the holy commandment delivered unto them.
22 But it is happened unto them according to the true proverb, The dog is turned to his own vomit again; and the sow that was washed to her wallowing in the mire.

Just because one says they believe in Jesus does not mean they are Spiritually born again and Baptized in the Spirit as even the devils believe and trembled at His name.

James 2:19 Thou believest that there is one God; thou doest well: the devils also believe, and tremble.
James 2:20 But wilt thou know, O vain man, that faith without works is dead?
James 2:21 Was not Abraham our father justified by works, when he had offered Isaac his son upon the altar?
James 2:22 Seest thou how faith wrought with his works, and by works was faith made perfect?
James 2:23 And the scripture was fulfilled which saith, Abraham believed God, and it was imputed unto him for righteousness: and he was called the Friend of God.
James 2:24 Ye see then how that by works a man is justified, and not by faith only.
We live by The Word of God. When we get Revelation on our saving by God's Sacrifice then we are saved. And we need to grow in The Word. And we need to get Revelation on our Birth and our Baptism. Revelation is the creation of our Birth and our Baptism.
 
We are not saved because we believe in God that died for our sins. If we keep our Faith until the end. And don't reject our Saving from God.
I agree with this. Obedience comes before anything else that could and will come against us while living on this earth.
 
We live by The Word of God. When we get Revelation on our saving by God's Sacrifice then we are saved. And we need to grow in The Word. And we need to get Revelation on our Birth and our Baptism. Revelation is the creation of our Birth and our Baptism.
But, how does a babe live by the word if they do not know it as they can not apply to their life that for which they do not know. Faith without works is dead faith and bears no fruit and will wither and die.

There is no great revelation about being Spiritually born again from above as it is made very clear in John 3:1-7; Romans 10:9-10; and Colossians 3 what we must do so when Christ, who is our life, shall appear, then shall you also appear with him in glory. God's grace is the revelation of our Spiritual rebirth birth and Baptism through Christ Jesus who is our faith and hope of everlasting life as we are then sealed unto the day of redemption.
 
God manifested the Word in Jesus. To create you to be that Son. God has no "son". God is One.

Deuteronomy 6:4
“Hear, O Israel! The Lord is our God, the Lord is one!

Zechariah 14:9
And the Lord will be king over all the earth; in that day the Lord will be the only one, and His name the only one.

The confusion was never there. Everybody always knew in the OT that there is but one Living God. And God made sure this was well known.

And then came the confusion. Jesus Christ in the NT. And suddenly you are confused too. Believing in 2 gods now. Or some even believe in 3 gods.

What you see in Scripture is the Word on the Relationship of Father and Son. The Word. And the Word of God creates the Reality. Which is you.

Gen. 1
3 And God said, Let there be light: and there was light.
4 And God saw the light, that it was good: and God divided the light from the darkness.

The Word of God was not the "real light". It created the real light. And Jesus is The Word of God that became flesh. Thus not the real Jesus. But the Word to create the Real Jesus. Which is you.

Yes you really do not know scripture,
https://bible.knowing-jesus.com/topics/The-Beloved-Sonfollow the link to the references where God calls Jesus his Son or where Paul explains that Jesus is the Son of God.

In your false view if Jesus is not God how could he forgive sins or how could he pay our penalty for sin on the cross.
How is it that Jesus is the God who created the universe?
 
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