The best thing i have seen and heard for a very long time

[Strangelove]

Holy smokes! Do you have a vivid imagination, or what? Ignoring your second grade level use of the English language, let's look at your post, shall we?

Who organized the French Revolution? The French middle and lower classes, due to the economic strains that were being put at the time.

American Independence? That was the colonists, revolting against British rule and desiring independence.

Who funded Hitler's War Machine? That would be the German Aristocracy. Not the Catholic church. I know that there have been rumors of ties between Pope Leo and Hitler in the past, but those have been dispelled for the most part. In 1937, Pope Pius XI and the Catholic Church publicly denounced the Nazi party and its agenda and condemned its racist actions. Have you ever heard of the Mit brennender Sorge?

Who funded and trained Mohammed and helped write the Koran.... blah, blah, blah? Well, considering that Mohammed was back in around 570 AD, it would've been considered that Christian church, as it hadn't been been broken into various denominations yet and there was only one church. Aside from that, Mohammed was still not funded by the Christian church.

Why are churches and mosques side by side? Because of the Crusaides. Churches were built by or on mosques as signs of the church's influence; not because of some secret link between the two.

A simple history book would do you wonders, Johnny. There is no such thing as "Illuminati," "Black Popes," "New World Order Government," UFO's, Chupakabras, leprachauns, lizard men from another dimension, or any of the other gibberish that David Icke and his cultists want you to buy into.

Do you see how Icke's wacky UFO and reptilian nonsense discredits all the other valuable political information that he shares Johnny? At best he's a useful idiot and at worst he's an disinfo agent.

And to Torch:

Hi mate. Good to meet you. My names Doc.

You're historical knowledge may not be as in depth as you might think friend. If you dig a little deeper you will find that there is a very rigid power structure to the evil pyramid in this world and nothing happens by chance. All is planned. Wars and revolutions are planned from behind the scenes and the illuminati absolutley exist and play their part.

 

[TorchHeart]

You're historical knowledge may not be as in depth as you might think friend. If you dig a little deeper you will find that there is a very rigid power structure to the evil pyramid in this world and nothing happens by chance. All is planned. Wars and revolutions are planned from behind the scenes and the illuminati absolutley exist and play their part.

Nice to meet you, too, Doc.

My historical knowledge might not be perfect, but it is good enough to find that there is no illuminati. The "Illuminati" is a myth based upon a group that really did exist called the Bavarian Illuminati in the late 1700's. The group was made up of Freethinkers and run like the Masonics before it fell apart when Bavaria banned secret institutions.

Now days, when we hear about the Illuminati, we hear stories about everyone from Egyptian Pharohs to President Obama belonging to the group. Heck, I've even heard Jesus mentioned as being an Illuminati member. There is no evidence of such a group. Simply people who want to make sense of history by believing that horrible events like assassinations and wars have more meaning than they really do.

 

[johnny botwright]

Hi Doc trust you are well, firstly like here, people from all walks of life , from all around the world share on david ickes forum, he doesnt, any of the above mentioned, not one thing has come from mr icke ect

Its well documented for example the free mason involvement, in the french revolution,

or mobile oil, supplying oil to Hitler to get his war machine on the road, owed by the illimnati.

Rothchilds influence in both the Vatican and Israel, look at the supreme court they built in Israel, like a temple to lucifer, when you look at its design, and whats symbolic,

satans biggest ploy he doesnt exsist, such are those in the shadows, often all that is seen, is the puppets or front men. no theres no black pope, head of the jesuits, figment of my imagination, i think not.

Jesus reffered, to some, as a brood of vipers, nothings changed, just got a lot more sophisticated.

Jesus came so we could have life and life abundantly, recieve the priceless Gift of Gods spirit,

there is another, satan and those with him, who seek to destroy, enslave, and keep men from the truth, that will set them free. johnny

 

[TorchHeart]

Hi Doc trust you are well, firstly like here, people from all walks of life , from all around the world share on david ickes forum, he doesnt, any of the above mentioned, not one thing has come from mr icke ect

Actually, all of those people are subscribing to conspiracy theories that Mr. Icke puts out in his books. Have you ever read any of them? ALL of the above mentioned is promoted by Icke in his book and in his public speaking events. Pay attention. Remember that the saying "Birds of a feather flock together" is a lot more than just a saying; it holds true in instances like this.

Its well documented for example the free mason involvement, in the french revolution,

or mobile oil, supplying oil to Hitler to get his war machine on the road, owed by the illimnati.

Rothchilds influence in both the Vatican and Israel, look at the supreme court they built in Israel, like a temple to lucifer, when you look at its design, and whats symbolic,

Really? This is all well-documented? Where? Cite your sources because I can easily cite many LEGITIMATE sources that disagree with this foolishness that you're pandering.

satans biggest ploy he doesnt exsist, such are those in the shadows, often all that is seen, is the puppets or front men. no theres no black pope, head of the jesuits, figment of my imagination, i think not.

Jesus reffered, to some, as a brood of vipers, nothings changed, just got a lot more sophisticated.

Jesus came so we could have life and life abundantly, recieve the priceless Gift of Gods spirit,

there is another, satan and those with him, who seek to destroy, enslave, and keep men from the truth, that will set them free. johnny

Has it occured to you, Johnny, that Satan could be using you by showing you these lies and trying to have you spread it among his people? Look at where you are getting this information from: A known cultist's website which is filled with paranormal gibberish, new-age religous beliefs, and stuff the generally goes AGAINST God's Word. What good can come of this?

I'm worried about you, man. Look at what you're getting into.

 

[johnny botwright]

There has always been conspiracys, the bible is full of them, like wise those who serve satan and satans agenda.

many non christian sites, christain input and perspective is welcome by most.

your personal attacks are perfectic to say the least, maybe you should have gone to spec savers, short sightness can be corrected.

johnny

 

[johnny botwright]

for example just goggle freemasons french revolution see what comes up. loads of information on line if you can be bothered to do the research. just one page of several. i mean i could fill this thread up with many such pages, concerning what under handed things the catholic church, secret societys have been up to,
are up to, hidden agendas,

or google the black pope seeing you say he dosnt exsist, jesuits and the illiminati, look on you tube,
yes some things have to be taken with a pinch of salt, but often you can see the wood from the tree,s mainly there is more going on, that meets the eye, or we are led to believe.

not the purpose of my thread, comending one mans stand for justis,

try google, you tube, some very good historical facts have come to light.

you really need to get out more. johnny

Freemasons in the French Revolution
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While it is both simplistic and specious to lay the responsibility for the French Revolution at the door of Freemasonry, there is no question that freemasons, as individuals, were active in building, and rebuilding, a new society. Considering the large number of bodies claiming masonic authority,1. . many men identified today as freemasons were probably unaware of each other’s masonic association and clearly cannot be seen as acting in concert. Yet they did share certain beliefs and ideals.
In 1789 the established power in France was a kingdom of God’s grace — however Louis XVI was a weak sovereign. The columns of established power had been the nobility, many of whose members now embraced the philosophers and rationalists, such as Voltaire; the clergy, whose lower hierarchy understood the misery inflicted on the lower classes; the army, whose members were drawn from and often sympathetic to the lower classes; and the public service, whose members were drawn from an educated bourgeoisie who saw themselves locked out from much political and social advancement.



A brief chronology of the
French Revolution
February 1787 : Assembly of "notables" called by Charles-Alexandre de Calonne
May 5, 1789 : Estates-General met at Versaille
July 14, 1789 : Parisian mob seized the Bastille.
Aug 4, 1789 : National Assembly abolished feudal regime and tithe
Aug 26, 1789 : Declaration of the Rights of Man and the Citizen
Oct 5, 1789 : Paris mob marched on Versaille, brought King to Paris.
June 20, 1791 : Louis XVI tried to flee country.
April 20, 1791 : France declared war on Prussia and Austria.
Aug 10, 1792 : revolutionaries occupied Tuileries, imprisoned the royal family.
Jan 21, 1793 : Louise XVI executed.
Sept 5, 1793 : Reign of Terror (to July 27, 1794) by Committee of Public Safety
July 27, 1794 : (9 Thermidor II) "White Terror" coup against Jacobins and Robespierre by National Convention
Oct. 5, 1795 : Napoleon crushes Royalist attempt to seize power in Paris.
Nov, 1795 : Directory established (until Nov 9, 1799)
Nov. 9, 1799 : (Coup of 18-19 Brumaire VIII) Napoleon proclaimed end of the revolution and instituted Consulate.




Masonic lodges were first warranted in France in 1725. Two papal edicts, that of Pope Clemence XII on May 4, 1738 and that of Pope Benedict XIV on June 15, 1751, were never registered by the French Parliament and therefore never took effect. Prior to the revolutionary period there were 1,250 lodges in France with an estimated 40,000 members. French Freemasonry of the 18th century was an exclusive group, excluding Jews, actors, employees, workers and servants. The clergy were well represented, and the membership of some lodges, such as La Vertu in Clervaux, were composed entirely of Catholic clergymen. While the nobility were attracted to Freemasonry, the greater majority was made up of the bourgeoisie, to whom the masonic motto of equality appealed to their sense that they were the equal of the nobles.
Many of the army were freemasons. Bernadotte, who lead the troops expelled from Grenoble, and later was a general for Napoleon and then King of Sweden, was a freemason. The cautious response of the army to the outbreak of rebellion in Britany has been ascribed to the number of officers who were freemasons.
The rules for the Estates-General were developed by Minister Necker whose masonic membership is unproven but considered probable, while the election committees created by these rules are claimed to have been mainly composed of freemasons.
Less admirable, Louis Philippe Joseph, 5th duc d'Orleans from 1785, Grand Master of the Grand Orient and later "Citoyen Égalité" (1747/04/13 -1793/11/06), was driven by his hatred for his cousin the King. Within freemasonry two loosely knit groups can be seen to be developing: those who see the Duke as a symbol to achieve their goals of equality, and those who would use Freemasonry as a vehicle for their own political goals.
When the National Assembly is formed, out of the 1,336 delegates to the Estates-General at least 320, or 24%, are believed to have been freemasons.
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------

1. There were a total of 35 representatives present at the Convent at Wilhelmsbad (July 16, 1782 - September 1, 1782), a meeting of the various bodies working the Strict Observance system of degrees in Europe. The Grand Lodge of Three Globes declaring its independence on January 30, 1784 and Italy partially reverting to the English system the following year. From this time practically moribund, the Strict Observance may be said to have continued to 1855 when the Danish Lodges adopted the Swedish Rite. In practice, it ceased to exist after the death of Duke Ferdinand of Brunswick in 1792. [Gould History of Freemasonry Vol. III p. 366-369, Chart I following p. 378] Any evaluation of French Freemasonry must take into account the large number of bodies claiming authority to confer degrees and warrant lodges: there were ten such bodies active in the days preceeding the French Revolution. Gould requires a fold-out chart to detail over thirty bodies that existed between 1725 and 1885, noting that he has only included those that exercised any considerable influence on the Grand Orient. The Chapter of Cleremont is noted as briefly uniting with the Grande Loge de France and then dieing out around 1780 while the Scots Directories are seen to have closed during the French Revolution and then dieing out around 1814. [Gould. Chart No. II following p. 440] ^
Gould, Robert Freke. The History of Freemasonry,Its Antiquities, Symbols, Constitutions, Customs, etc. Vol. III, New York, John C Yorston & Co., Publishers: 1886.

 

[Strangelove]

Nice to meet you, too, Doc.

My historical knowledge might not be perfect, but it is good enough to find that there is no illuminati. The "Illuminati" is a myth based upon a group that really did exist called the Bavarian Illuminati in the late 1700's. The group was made up of Freethinkers and run like the Masonics before it fell apart when Bavaria banned secret institutions.

Now days, when we hear about the Illuminati, we hear stories about everyone from Egyptian Pharohs to President Obama belonging to the group. Heck, I've even heard Jesus mentioned as being an Illuminati member. There is no evidence of such a group. Simply people who want to make sense of history by believing that horrible events like assassinations and wars have more meaning than they really do.

I agree the term 'illuminati' is used frequently and innacurately at times to describe the evil world power. It's a complicated history but the basics is that the 'brotherhood' have been around since the mystery schools of Babylon and have always railed against God. They infiltrated the Bavarian illuminati who had previously set up freemasonry and the knights templar to guard esoteric knowledge. Scottish Rite freemasonry was hijacked by the 'brotherhood' and it is in this form that the Synagogue of Satan hold power over institutions and nations of the world. All headed by the Rothschild family.

Take it or leave it.

Icke is a decieved fool though.

 

[Strangelove]

Actually, all of those people are subscribing to conspiracy theories that Mr. Icke puts out in his books. Have you ever read any of them? ALL of the above mentioned is promoted by Icke in his book and in his public speaking events. Pay attention. Remember that the saying "Birds of a feather flock together" is a lot more than just a saying; it holds true in instances like this.

Really? This is all well-documented? Where? Cite your sources because I can easily cite many LEGITIMATE sources that disagree with this foolishness that you're pandering.

Has it occured to you, Johnny, that Satan could be using you by showing you these lies and trying to have you spread it among his people? Look at where you are getting this information from: A known cultist's website which is filled with paranormal gibberish, new-age religous beliefs, and stuff the generally goes AGAINST God's Word. What good can come of this?

I'm worried about you, man. Look at what you're getting into.

Ok time to call off the sleepy dog Torch.

Johnny doesn't subscribe to the wackier parts of the Icke universe he just likes to talk to the people over at the forums.

Ickes info on the new world order is mostly solid. It doesnt take much research to verify it. Plus all this is prophesized so....

 

[johnny botwright]

there are a lot of topics that come through such sights, and yes some are intresting, and you can share,

some people to, try to get closier to the truth regarding past and present events, expose cover ups.

this may be a crime to you, to me some of it is sound, makes you question a bit more about life, than just accepting things at face value.

there are also some active minds, sharp thinkers, its like what is mention above coming to know your enemy how he works,
like wise when you have listened and read where other people are at, with mutual respect, they may listenand read, where you are coming from. its called sharing your faith.Sowing seeds. bringing hope to the table, in a world at the moment, that does seem to have much.
We all know who the answer is, many in this world dont, The Lord Jesus Christ.

Every thing ive shared here, ive shared there, just read by alot more people, most non christian. johnny

like wise http://www.december212012.com the official web site, forums prophecy and predictions forum, theories and possabilities forum, religion forum.

 

[TorchHeart]

for example just goggle freemasons french revolution see what comes up. loads of information on line if you can be bothered to do the research. just one page of several. i mean i could fill this thread up with many such pages, concerning what under handed things the catholic church, secret societys have been up to,
are up to, hidden agendas,

or google the black pope seeing you say he dosnt exsist, jesuits and the illiminati, look on you tube,
yes some things have to be taken with a pinch of salt, but often you can see the wood from the tree,s mainly there is more going on, that meets the eye, or we are led to believe.

not the purpose of my thread, comending one mans stand for justis,

try google, you tube, some very good historical facts have come to light.

you really need to get out more. johnny

Freemasons in the French Revolution
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------


While it is both simplistic and specious to lay the responsibility for the French Revolution at the door of Freemasonry, there is no question that freemasons, as individuals, were active in building, and rebuilding, a new society. Considering the large number of bodies claiming masonic authority,1. . many men identified today as freemasons were probably unaware of each other’s masonic association and clearly cannot be seen as acting in concert. Yet they did share certain beliefs and ideals.
In 1789 the established power in France was a kingdom of God’s grace — however Louis XVI was a weak sovereign. The columns of established power had been the nobility, many of whose members now embraced the philosophers and rationalists, such as Voltaire; the clergy, whose lower hierarchy understood the misery inflicted on the lower classes; the army, whose members were drawn from and often sympathetic to the lower classes; and the public service, whose members were drawn from an educated bourgeoisie who saw themselves locked out from much political and social advancement.



A brief chronology of the
French Revolution
February 1787 : Assembly of "notables" called by Charles-Alexandre de Calonne
May 5, 1789 : Estates-General met at Versaille
July 14, 1789 : Parisian mob seized the Bastille.
Aug 4, 1789 : National Assembly abolished feudal regime and tithe
Aug 26, 1789 : Declaration of the Rights of Man and the Citizen
Oct 5, 1789 : Paris mob marched on Versaille, brought King to Paris.
June 20, 1791 : Louis XVI tried to flee country.
April 20, 1791 : France declared war on Prussia and Austria.
Aug 10, 1792 : revolutionaries occupied Tuileries, imprisoned the royal family.
Jan 21, 1793 : Louise XVI executed.
Sept 5, 1793 : Reign of Terror (to July 27, 1794) by Committee of Public Safety
July 27, 1794 : (9 Thermidor II) "White Terror" coup against Jacobins and Robespierre by National Convention
Oct. 5, 1795 : Napoleon crushes Royalist attempt to seize power in Paris.
Nov, 1795 : Directory established (until Nov 9, 1799)
Nov. 9, 1799 : (Coup of 18-19 Brumaire VIII) Napoleon proclaimed end of the revolution and instituted Consulate.




Masonic lodges were first warranted in France in 1725. Two papal edicts, that of Pope Clemence XII on May 4, 1738 and that of Pope Benedict XIV on June 15, 1751, were never registered by the French Parliament and therefore never took effect. Prior to the revolutionary period there were 1,250 lodges in France with an estimated 40,000 members. French Freemasonry of the 18th century was an exclusive group, excluding Jews, actors, employees, workers and servants. The clergy were well represented, and the membership of some lodges, such as La Vertu in Clervaux, were composed entirely of Catholic clergymen. While the nobility were attracted to Freemasonry, the greater majority was made up of the bourgeoisie, to whom the masonic motto of equality appealed to their sense that they were the equal of the nobles.
Many of the army were freemasons. Bernadotte, who lead the troops expelled from Grenoble, and later was a general for Napoleon and then King of Sweden, was a freemason. The cautious response of the army to the outbreak of rebellion in Britany has been ascribed to the number of officers who were freemasons.
The rules for the Estates-General were developed by Minister Necker whose masonic membership is unproven but considered probable, while the election committees created by these rules are claimed to have been mainly composed of freemasons.
Less admirable, Louis Philippe Joseph, 5th duc d'Orleans from 1785, Grand Master of the Grand Orient and later "Citoyen Égalité" (1747/04/13 -1793/11/06), was driven by his hatred for his cousin the King. Within freemasonry two loosely knit groups can be seen to be developing: those who see the Duke as a symbol to achieve their goals of equality, and those who would use Freemasonry as a vehicle for their own political goals.
When the National Assembly is formed, out of the 1,336 delegates to the Estates-General at least 320, or 24%, are believed to have been freemasons.
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------

1. There were a total of 35 representatives present at the Convent at Wilhelmsbad (July 16, 1782 - September 1, 1782), a meeting of the various bodies working the Strict Observance system of degrees in Europe. The Grand Lodge of Three Globes declaring its independence on January 30, 1784 and Italy partially reverting to the English system the following year. From this time practically moribund, the Strict Observance may be said to have continued to 1855 when the Danish Lodges adopted the Swedish Rite. In practice, it ceased to exist after the death of Duke Ferdinand of Brunswick in 1792. [Gould History of Freemasonry Vol. III p. 366-369, Chart I following p. 378] Any evaluation of French Freemasonry must take into account the large number of bodies claiming authority to confer degrees and warrant lodges: there were ten such bodies active in the days preceeding the French Revolution. Gould requires a fold-out chart to detail over thirty bodies that existed between 1725 and 1885, noting that he has only included those that exercised any considerable influence on the Grand Orient. The Chapter of Cleremont is noted as briefly uniting with the Grande Loge de France and then dieing out around 1780 while the Scots Directories are seen to have closed during the French Revolution and then dieing out around 1814. [Gould. Chart No. II following p. 440] ^
Gould, Robert Freke. The History of Freemasonry,Its Antiquities, Symbols, Constitutions, Customs, etc. Vol. III, New York, John C Yorston & Co., Publishers: 1886.

I need to get out more? LOL!!!!!

Doing a "Google search" is not called research, silly boy. You need to look at what information you're getting and make sure that the sources are true. What do you have here? A copy and paste from what site? Try hitting a Barnes & Nobel or a library and get some books from some learned writers. Not Icke and his buddies from the cult-side. Not just some obscure and questionable source from back in the late 1800's.

You're clueless, and I think you need to be warry of who is leading you. It is clearly not of God.

 

[TorchHeart]

Ok time to call off the sleepy dog Torch.

Johnny doesn't subscribe to the wackier parts of the Icke universe he just likes to talk to the people over at the forums.

Ickes info on the new world order is mostly solid. It doesnt take much research to verify it. Plus all this is prophesized so....

Icke's info on the new world order is bunk and is easy to refute. Simply because there is no proof. I'm curious, but have you read any of Icke's works? I have, and all I can say is that they are WAY out there. Claims of Christ being an illuminati alien.... lizards from other dimensions trying to enslave us..... I'm sorry, but he's not with it and neither are his silly claims of a new world order that does not exist.

 

[johnny botwright]

you make me laugh, you the one who does not believe in an inner circle, or the black pope exsists.

often the outer court ie masons, catholics, have no idea, what is happening within the inner circle, often we only see the hand that is being played not the hidden hand.

and you call me clueless? joke

Ask why no one to constantiens aid, WHY christians here and in North Africa were cut down by islamic forces, who would not come under Rome, in opposition to Rome, islamic forces hired by the Pope to do his dirty work.

Hoping Hitler would crush the Russian orthadox church, along with Russia.

its not an exact science but you can get a rough idea, how things work are working, why some things are happening as they are,

Ezekiel was led through Jerusalem , and shown what was takin place even behind closed doors, worshipping the sun ect. so we to can gain an insight understanding as to what is going on, taking place.

for a few of you here, seeing you either cannot read, or cannot process information. but i will say it again, i do not hold with the views of David Icke, this is not about David Icke, it is about a foru, one of many people visit, apart of, many looking for answers, Jesus is the answer , they are looking for, christian input is welcome by most.

a good place to conect with people and share your faith. is this really to hard to comprehend. its about people,
shining light in darkness,
and this thread was about one mans brave enough, to shine a light on peoples pain and suffering, and those responsable, accountable. into the darkness and exposed a genocide. johnny

some of the replies received at the david icke forum

what others have been saying about the same posts.

when the right gate is opened...Johnny you are doing a good thing... Listen to Johnnies Seed... His seed of thought...

yes chip1 ,it's called 'be prepared'........

hi johnny....your posts are really interesting, thankyou.


Hi Johnny,

Keep up the great work, I think your posts are awesome I love reading them they say so much for those with the eyes to see it, the people that are insulting and attacking you either have an agenda to stop/spoil your message or they have their heads stuck in the sand and can't see behind the false reality that's been created for them, George Washington played an integral part in the assendancy of the USA how symbolic it would be for his name to play an integral part in the demise of the USA……..keep it coming Johnny

　
Originally Posted by zenith82
You crack me up Johnny Never ever give up! You're special

***************************************

Only about 5% of the human population ever see as far ahead as Johnny...

The rest are stragglers.....get over it......

 

[jasoncran]

you make me laugh, you the one who does not believe in an inner circle, or the black pope exsists.

often the outer court ie masons, catholics, have n idea, what is happening within the inner circle, often we only see the hand that is being played not the hidden hand.

its not an exact science but you can get a rough idea, how things work are working, why some things are happening as they are,

Ezekiel was led through Jerusalem , and shown what was takin place even behind closed doors, worshipping the sun ect. so we to can gain an insight understanding as to what is going on, taking place.

for a few of you here, seeing you either cannot read, or cannot process information. but i will say it again, i do not hold with the views of David Icke, this is not about David Icke, it is about a foru, one of many people visit, apart of, many looking for answers, Jesus is the answer , they are looking for, christian input is welcome by most.

a good place to conect with people and share your faith. is this really to hard to comprehend. its about people,
shining light in darkness,
and this thread was about one mans brave enough, to shine a light on peoples pain and suffering, and those responsable, accountable. into the darkness and exposed a genocide. johnny

more persons have died from the real genocide going on, called abortion
and where does it say in the bible to the t that what you say is true?

i want names and events as that prophecy was a vision, and visions can be many things and he was looking at the hearts of men some say or the physical temple(and that may be unlikely depending on when that verse or vision was seen as zek was alive during he fall of jersusalem and his mession was to the exiled jews.

most of his message is to them

he wrote from exile and was alive at the latter end of jeramiahs ministry and died when daniel started his service to the king of babylon, i think.

 

[johnny botwright]

Nothing is new under the sun, the midnight hour ,darkness comes, now as also then likened to the days of Noah.

control of the masses- enslavement- genocides - war- the temple of satan.

is satan working alone? can prince appalities and powers take human hosts. ? does satan have an agenda?

are the wheels turning, is Gods word coming to pass,? are things linning up. ?

what did Jesus mean that darkness night would come when no man can work, ?

do goverments get away with and commit murder. ?

its all happening now, just on a grander scale. as before, Awake o sleeper, and arise from the dead, and Christ will shine on you.

i can understand why some will just not see it coming. johnny

 

[jasoncran]

Nothing is new under the sun, the midnight hour ,darkness comes, now as also then likened to the days of Noah.

control of the masses- enslavement- genocides - war- the temple of satan.

is satan working alone? can prince appalities and powers take human hosts. ? does satan have an agenda?

are the wheels turning, is Gods word coming to pass,? are things linning up. ?

what did Jesus mean that darkness night would come when no man can work, ?

do goverments get away with and commit murder. ?

its all happening now, just on a grander scale. as before, Awake o sleeper, and arise from the dead, and Christ will shine on you.

i can understand why some will just not see it coming. johnny

heres the problem you are like many line up the bible to what you want to see.

and you miss the point, abortion has killed more babies in america then all our wars combined!and stats show that the black and the mexicans are the ones with the highest rates of abortion.

and i do talk to canadians on this forum and on facebook.

 

[Strangelove]

I need to get out more? LOL!!!!!

Doing a "Google search" is not called research, silly boy. You need to look at what information you're getting and make sure that the sources are true. What do you have here? A copy and paste from what site? Try hitting a Barnes & Nobel or a library and get some books from some learned writers. Not Icke and his buddies from the cult-side. Not just some obscure and questionable source from back in the late 1800's.

You're clueless, and I think you need to be warry of who is leading you. It is clearly not of God.

History is written by the victors.

P.S. You're not allowed to talk to people like that on this forum.

 

[Strangelove]

Icke's info on the new world order is bunk and is easy to refute. Simply because there is no proof. I'm curious, but have you read any of Icke's works? I have, and all I can say is that they are WAY out there. Claims of Christ being an illuminati alien.... lizards from other dimensions trying to enslave us..... I'm sorry, but he's not with it and neither are his silly claims of a new world order that does not exist.

Icke has done a job on you. He has convinced you to disregard all the political truth (which cannot be refuted) because of all the wacky alien/reptilian bunk (which is easily refuted). This is his job whether he knows it or not. He's a disinfo agent.

I've got about 100 quotes from politicians themselves talking about their new world order / one world government. Shall I post them for you?

 

[Strangelove]

heres the problem you are like many line up the bible to what you want to see.

and you miss the point, abortion has killed more babies in america then all our wars combined!and stats show that the black and the mexicans are the ones with the highest rates of abortion.

and i do talk to canadians on this forum and on facebook.

Huh? So we're only gonna shine a light on the biggest killing method in the world and the rest of the bad guys slip through the net?

What?

 

[Fembot]

I haven't read his books. But I have seen videos. I like how Icke identifies viewing television/movies as a way of being prepped on how to react to different scenarios. He's on point with much of what he says. People today are brainwashed.

 

[Fembot]

"the mexicans?" Jason. UGH