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The Chronology of Armageddon

MisterE

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The following is a rough sketch of the chronology of the events of Armageddon. First, Armageddon is not a battle but a series of battles that covers most of the second half of the tribulation, known as the Great Tribulation

1. The Antichrist summons all his allies to prepare for war, the Antichrist becomes world dictator at this time
2. They attack Babylon and it is destroyed
3. Jerusalem will fall next, the Jews flee from Jerusalem and head to the mountains
4. The armies of the Antichrist will travel to Petra/Bozrah in modern Jordan to destroy the Jews there
5. The Jewish remnant at Petra/Bozrah will finally turn to the Lord
6. Christ begins his descent with the Church to Petra/Bozrah to deliver the Jews at his second coming
7. The Antichrist and his army fight the Jews starting in Petra/Bozrah all the way to Jerusalem
8. Christ will finally descend on the Mount of Olives, it splits in two
9. In just a few more weeks, the Millennial reign of Christ commences.

This is a PreTrib and PreMill understanding
 
The following is a rough sketch of the chronology of the events of Armageddon. First, Armageddon is not a battle but a series of battles that covers most of the second half of the tribulation, known as the Great Tribulation

1. The Antichrist summons all his allies to prepare for war, the Antichrist becomes world dictator at this time
2. They attack Babylon and it is destroyed
3. Jerusalem will fall next, the Jews flee from Jerusalem and head to the mountains
4. The armies of the Antichrist will travel to Petra/Bozrah in modern Jordan to destroy the Jews there
5. The Jewish remnant at Petra/Bozrah will finally turn to the Lord
6. Christ begins his descent with the Church to Petra/Bozrah to deliver the Jews at his second coming
7. The Antichrist and his army fight the Jews starting in Petra/Bozrah all the way to Jerusalem
8. Christ will finally descend on the Mount of Olives, it splits in two
9. In just a few more weeks, the Millennial reign of Christ commences.

This is a PreTrib and PreMill understanding
I have a Postrib understanding, and I view Armageddon as a battle that does take some time to develop but is actually fulfilled not just in a single day, but also in a single hour. It takes time for Antichrist to mobilize his troops, or for opposing armies to mobilize to Armageddon.

But the actual fight will likely only last for an hour, in my opinion, because I think it will be a nuclear war, world-wide, with Christ appearing immediately after the initial devastation. My concern here isn't to argue, but just to give my opinion on the subject.
 
The following is a rough sketch of the chronology of the events of Armageddon. First, Armageddon is not a battle but a series of battles that covers most of the second half of the tribulation, known as the Great Tribulation
End time eschatology is my calling of 40 years. I will take these point by point, its all good to offer a guess, but its better to be in the know. You have the pre trib. correct and the Day of the Lord is nor one day but 1260 days, so you are spot on there. But Armageddon is simply the marriage supper back on earth, we revel in our victory, and Jesus defeats them by the presence of his coming, thus is no battle in reality.

1. The Antichrist summons all his allies to prepare for war, the Antichrist becomes world dictator at this time
The AC will not rule the whole world , I can back this up wit scriptures, no Beast over Israel ever ruled the whole earth, even though Daniel 2 says that Nebuchadnezzar & Greece was said to rule the whole earth, but why? Because these Beasts all arose out of the Great Sea (The Mediterranean Sea) and they are about a POWER that rules over Israel and a defined region around that lone sea. The earth being spoken of in each case is the land around the Mediterranean Sea. How is the AC (E.U. leader) going to rule over China & Russia who have n Nukes? The USA an d the New World imho, is the 1/3 that gets wiped out by the Rev. 8 Asteroid and Fires it brings, why would God destroy the Old World when Jesus is going to rule from Jerusalem for 1000 years? The New World has 1/3 of the worlds Landmass and the Pacific Ocean covers 1/3 of the earth. His lone goal is to kill every Jew proving God a liar.

2. They attack Babylon and it is destroyed
Babylon is a DEAD CITY, God uses Babylon for the WHOLE WORLD. I wrote a blog on this 8 or so years back, I was citing Rome as THAT CITY in vs. 18 (Rev. 17:18) and the holy spirit was like Ron, look again at only what John SAWEST !!, and once I did, I realized the vision was only 4 verses long (3-6) and the City Babylon was being used to describe "The Harlot" like this:

MYSTERY (Secret heretofore or question mark)

1.) Babylon the Great (Babylon was world renowned for FALSE RELIGION)
2.) Mother of Harlots (FALSE RELIGION was the original Harlotry against God)
3.) Abominations of the Earth (God is a jealous God and He hates all FALSE RELIGION)

In vs. 7 the Angel says come and I will show you the MYSTERY of the Harlot (False Religions) and the [Government] Beasts she rides, its always been False Religion and False Governance cojoined at the hip until the Beast JUDGES the Harlot in Rev. 17:16 but why will it be different at that point in time? Because unlike the other Beasts who worshiped false gods, this man will think he is GOD!! Thus he will kill off all False Religions, be it Witch Craft, Islam, Buddhism, Hinduism, et al. as well as kill off those gentile Christians who repent after the Rapture.

In olden times a harlot was sent to the city square, and her clientele would look for a name tag on her forehead (highest point). Here, God TAGS this Harlot with Three Identifiers. We have to figure out what this mystery is pointing unto by the clues God gives us.

Rev. 18 is Babylon (whole world) being judged by God, you see False Religion is Judged in Rev. 17 via God using the AC and his 10 kings (EU) to do His biding, then God Himself judges Babylon. Rev. 16:19 identifies Babylon as the WHOLE WORLD, it says God remembered Babylon the Great when His wrath fell as Jesus wipes them all out, so Jesus wiped out Babylon, so who were they? Well, lets look back to Vial #6 where it says the Kings of the WHOLE WORLD prepared t go to battle against Almighty God. So, we know Babylon equals the WHOLE WORLD under Satan's Dark Kingdom of Babylon or Deception. In Rev. 18:2 we see Babylon(world) has fallen and become a habitation of DEVILS but why? Because Satan has been cast down to earth at the midway point and the demons from the pit released.

Getting log, better post and finish later.
 
I'm more of a pan-trib guy ... however it pans out
 
3. Jerusalem will fall next, the Jews flee from Jerusalem and head to the mountains
Yes, after the rapture, and after the 1335 Blessing (Two-witnesses) where Israel is turned back to God, the 1/3 (5 million or the encoded 144,000 which = 5 million) start worshiping God in the temple, thus the temple that was rent becomes cleansed again. Then at the 1290, a Jewish High Priest like unto Jason (real name Yeshua) under Antiochus Epiphanes will forbid Jesus worship in the temple/maybe in all Jerusalem, (he TAKES AWAY The [real] Sacrifice). This can not be the AC who only comes on the scene as The Beast 30 days later at the 1260. Each number is THAT MANY DAYS, until ALL THESE WONDERS END [at the second coming of Jesus]. Thus the 1335 comes 45 days before the 1290 F.P. and 75 days before the 1260 Beast. Now think, why would the Beast who seeks to kill all Jews allow the 5 million Jews who have just accepted their Messiah to flee Judea? One could say BUT..BUT...BUT God can protect them, well yea He will in the Petra/Bozrah area, but He can just plan it this way, and have the Beast come to power 30 days after He gives the Jews a SIGN to flee Judea too right? And we could just not be interpreting who the 1290 guy is correctly, right guys? Remember, he has a 2nd hand man. Who places the AoD? Rev. 13 says its the 2nd Beast (FP) that gets the people to make an image of the first Beast and place it up in the temple.

4. The armies of the Antichrist will travel to Petra/Bozrah in modern Jordan to destroy the Jews there
Well, I think that is their intention, but Jesus shows up at the 70th vial and wipes them all out.

5. The Jewish remnant at Petra/Bozrah will finally turn to the Lord
They must do so BEFORE the DOTL, we can see this is true by looking at two passages. Malachi 4:5-6 says Elijah is sent back BEFORE the DOTL to turn Israel back unto God. Then, they biggest clue, we see in Zech. 13:-8-9 that 1/3 (5 million) Jews repent, then in the very next verse (Zech. 14:1) we see the DOTL has arrived, then in vs. 2 Jerusalem/Israel is sacked, then in vs. 3 (1260 days later) Jesus shows up to destroy the wicked. So, God is not going to accept an unfaithful Israel, they MUST REPENT before they flee unto Judea.

6. Christ begins his descent with the Church to Petra/Bozrah to deliver the Jews at his second coming
That's mere prose, Jesus shows up and kills the wicked, he does not need our help at all per se. Just as Rev. 14 is prose, the 144,000 (5 million) are not waiting on the holy mount. for Jesus to show up, its just prose showing God/Jesus will now harvest The Wheat (Israel) and slay the wicked tares, bundling them to be burned later (1000 years later).

7. The Antichrist and his army fight the Jews starting in Petra/Bozrah all the way to Jerusalem
Over thinking here, God Himself protects Israel for ALL 1260 days, then Jesus shows up.

8. Christ will finally descend on the Mount of Olives, it splits in two
Praise the Lord, we win. Amen.

9. In just a few more weeks, the Millennial reign of Christ commences.
I assume you mean in just a few weeks from point 8. How about at that very instance. It is not going to take Jesus weeks nor even days to kill these thugs, his mere PRESENCE slays them all
 
Have you ever considered the war of Gog and Magog is the same as the battle of Armageddon as we study Ezekiel 38:1-6 which actually names all who will come against Israel in the end of days being Gog, the land of Magog, the chief prince of Meshech and Tubal, Persia, Ethiopia, Libya, Gomer and all his bands; the house of Togarmah of the north quarters, and all his bands. In this battle, this Gog-Magog War, this Armageddon battle, is a different type of battle from any other ones found in scripture including the king of the north and south in Daniel 11. Within this battle the first six trumpets of God's wrath will be poured out into the world, Ezekiel 38:17-19, as we read in Rev 8:6 being the first trumpet sounding that takes us to the seventh trumpet of God's great wrath in Rev 11:15-19 and the timing of the son of perdition during the time of the seventh trumpet that promises a false peace and safety if all will take the mark of this beast, 2Thessalonians 4:1-12; Rev 13.

Ezekiel 38-39 calls this the battle of Gog and Magog and Rev 16:12-16 the place called Armageddon.

Rev 16:12 And the sixth angel poured out his vial upon the great river Euphrates; and the water thereof was dried up, that the way of the kings of the east might be prepared.
Rev 16:13 And I saw three unclean spirits like frogs come out of the mouth of the dragon, and out of the mouth of the beast, and out of the mouth of the false prophet.
Rev 16:14 For they are the spirits of devils, working miracles, which go forth unto the kings of the earth and of the whole world, to gather them to the battle of that great day of God Almighty.
Rev 16:15 Behold, I come as a thief. Blessed is he that watcheth, and keepeth his garments, lest he walk naked, and they see his shame.
Rev 16:16 And he gathered them together into a place called in the Hebrew tongue Armageddon.

Armageddon, Harmageddon, Mageddon known in a few ways of different spellings, but being a city called Megiddo found in the Jezreel Valley between Nazareth and Jerusalem being a place of troops, an assembly of troops, a gathering of troops; a mountain assembly of troops, a mountain rendezvous of troops, or a mountain gathering of troops.

And when the thousand years are expired, Satan shall be loosed out of his prison and shall go out to deceive the nations which are in the four quarters of the earth, Gog and Magog, to gather them together to battle the number of whom is as the sand of the sea. And they went up on the breadth of the earth, and compassed the camp of the saints about, and the beloved city: and fire came down from God out of heaven, and devoured them. And the devil that deceived them was cast into the lake of fire and brimstone, where the beast and the false prophet are, and shall be tormented day and night for ever and ever. Rev 20:7-10.

Let's take a closer look at Rev 20:7-10.
1. After the 1000 years are expired Satan will be set loose, but doesn't say how long he is set loose before he is cast into the lake of fire.

2. Satan goes out immediately to deceive the nations.

3. These nations are in the four quarters of the earth, (N S E W) that Satan gathers together as the enemies of God are great as the numbering of the sand of the sea.

4. Four quarters of the earth are east, west, north and south as described in Ezekiel 38:1-6 in all who come against Israel in the final battle called Armageddon.

5. The breadth of the earth means the saints that are camped not only in Jerusalem the beloved city of God, but also throughout the breadth of the earth.

6. God sends fire down from heaven to devour/destroy the enemies of God and Satan is cast into the lake of fire where the beast and false prophet are.

Notice where it says the beast and false prophet are, as that happens when Christ returns in the air with His army of angels, Rev 19:11-21, before planting His feet on the Mt of Olives.


Rev 20:7-10 is the defeat of Satan after the battle of Armageddon where he calls all the nations to come against Israel one last time as prophesied in Ezekiel 38:1-6 that describes these nations. In this battle, this Gog-Magog War, this Armageddon battle, is a different type of battle from any other ones found in scripture including the king of the north and south in Daniel 11 as this takes place after Satan is bound and then set loose for what I believe 1000 years is symbolic in it's numbering like that of a figurative number, not a literal number as in Deuteronomy 7:9; 1Chronicles 16:15; Psalms 50:10; 90:4; 105:8 Ecc 6:6; 7:28; Daniel 5:1; 2 Peter 3:8. 7:9;1Chronicles16:15; Psalms 50:10; 90:4; 105:8 Ecc 6:6; 7:28; Daniel 5:1; 2 Peter 3:8.

Those that have rejected Christ that still remain on earth after the beast, false prophet and all the ruling leaders from every nation that followed after the beast are destroyed, Rev 19:11-21 are those who are the numbering as the sand of the sea. These are the enemy of God that Satan uses to battle against the saints during the battle of Armageddon that are camped upon the breadth of the earth after Satan is released for a season. The saints are camped not only in Jerusalem the beloved city of God, but also throughout the breadth of the earth. It's only the 144,000 generational Jews that believe in Christ that have returned to Jerusalem. After the 1000 years are fulfilled Satan is set loosed for a season and goes out to deceive the nations as he gathers the enemies of Christ to battle against the saints as the numbering of unbelievers is like the sand of the sea. As the enemy surrounds the camp of the saints God sends fire down from heaven and destroys the enemy and Satan is cast into the lake of fire. Zechariah 14; Luke 21:20-22 and Rev 16:16 mentions the battle of Armageddon when Christ and His army of angels return as Christ plants His feet on the mount of Olives for the final battle as Gog and Magog found in Ezekiel Chapter 38 is the battle of Rev 20:7-9.

As I understand all of this it happens at the time of Christ return as I see everything happening very quickly as being the last day when Christ returns for at that time all evil will be destroyed by the brightness of His coming, this present heaven and earth will pass away and restored again before the New Jerusalem will be ushered down from heaven, Rev 21:1-8.
 
Have you ever considered the war of Gog and Magog is the same as the battle of Armageddon
There are several reasons this doesn't fit.
1. Gog/Magog has specific nations that take part in this war (there is a limited number of nations involved), while Armageddon is a war that includes ALL nations.
2. Gog/Magog war comes from the North, while Armageddon is the whole world involved in the final battle.
3. Lastly, Gog/Magog nations are destroyed by a large earthquake, whereas Armageddon is destroyed by the Second Coming of Christ.
4. Gog/Magog is destroyed in the mountains of north Israel, while Armageddon concludes in Petra/Bozrah
5. Gog/Magog takes place while the nation of Israel is living securely in their Land, Armageddon takes place while Israel is mostly out of there Land.

I think we can confidently say that Gog/Magog and Armageddon are two, separate wars.
 
There are several reasons this doesn't fit.
1. Gog/Magog has specific nations that take part in this war (there is a limited number of nations involved), while Armageddon is a war that includes ALL nations.
2. Gog/Magog war comes from the North, while Armageddon is the whole world involved in the final battle.
3. Lastly, Gog/Magog nations are destroyed by a large earthquake, whereas Armageddon is destroyed by the Second Coming of Christ.
4. Gog/Magog is destroyed in the mountains of north Israel, while Armageddon concludes in Petra/Bozrah
5. Gog/Magog takes place while the nation of Israel is living securely in their Land, Armageddon takes place while Israel is mostly out of there Land.

I think we can confidently say that Gog/Magog and Armageddon are two, separate wars.
Do you have any scripture to back this up? It's a fool who only takes the word of another.
 
Do you have any scripture to back this up? It's a fool who only takes the word of another.
I must admit I never thought I would get a question like this, but I will assume you are genuinely interested in knowing. All I did was to study the Gog/Magog war from Ezekiel chapters 37-39. And I read the book of Revelation to get the details of the Armageddon info.

You don't have to take my word or anyone's word for this, just read these two places in the Bible and you will be an authority of the differences between Gog/Magog and Armageddon.

I hope I am being fair. The best way to know the truth of a doctrine is to study it yourself, not have me list for your verses in our Bible. It should take you too long since I have already given you the info in these two places.
 
I must admit I never thought I would get a question like this, but I will assume you are genuinely interested in knowing. All I did was to study the Gog/Magog war from Ezekiel chapters 37-39. And I read the book of Revelation to get the details of the Armageddon info.

You don't have to take my word or anyone's word for this, just read these two places in the Bible and you will be an authority of the differences between Gog/Magog and Armageddon.

I hope I am being fair. The best way to know the truth of a doctrine is to study it yourself, not have me list for your verses in our Bible. It should take you too long since I have already given you the info in these two places.
I am only interested in what scriptures and history sources you used. It takes more than just Ezekiel 37-39 to understand the battle of Armageddon as I gave my understanding in post #6.
 
I am only interested in what scriptures and history sources you used. It takes more than just Ezekiel 37-39 to understand the battle of Armageddon as I gave my understanding in post #6.
Ezekiel 37-39 does not discuss Armageddon. It discusses the Gog/Magog war. I recommend you get The Bible Knowledge Commentary - Old Testament. Read the book of Ezekiel. Next, I would get the commentary on Revelation by Robert L. Thomas. After reading the sections you want, you will have a very good knowledge of these two sources. That's my opinion.
 
Ezekiel 37-39 does not discuss Armageddon. It discusses the Gog/Magog war. I recommend you get The Bible Knowledge Commentary - Old Testament. Read the book of Ezekiel. Next, I would get the commentary on Revelation by Robert L. Thomas. After reading the sections you want, you will have a very good knowledge of these two sources. That's my opinion.
Like I said, please show us what you use to support what you are saying.
 
Like I said, please show us what you use to support what you are saying.
All you need is your Bible!! Read Ez passage and the Armageddon section in Rev. Now, I have been reading commentaries for decades so I really can't offer you more information that I did in my last post. I read The Bible Knowledge Commentary by Dallas Seminary, and Robert Thomas' commentary on Rev. I got a lot of good information from them.
 
All you need is your Bible!! Read Ez passage and the Armageddon section in Rev. Now, I have been reading commentaries for decades so I really can't offer you more information that I did in my last post. I read The Bible Knowledge Commentary by Dallas Seminary, and Robert Thomas' commentary on Rev. I got a lot of good information from them.
I already gave my understanding that I wrote in post #6. If you do not want to read and study the scriptures I gave then so be it, but do not belittle me like I have no knowledge.

You have a good day.
 
Rev 20:7-10 is the defeat of Satan after the battle of Armageddon where he calls all the nations to come against Israel one last time as prophesied in Ezekiel 38:1-6 that describes these nations.
All I am trying to say, although not too clearly, is the Ezek battle in 38.1-6 is not Armageddon.
 
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