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The Devil, that old serpent, Lucifer, Satan, Adversary

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What are the names of the devil? - Dragon, that old serpent, Lucifer, Devil(s), Adversary -
Revelation 12:9 "And the great dragon was cast out, that old serpent, called the Devil, and Satan, which deceiveth the whole world: he was cast out into the earth, and his angels were cast out with him."
Revelation 20:2 "And he laid hold on the dragon, that old serpent, which is the Devil, and Satan, and bound him a thousand years,"
1 Peter 5:8 "Be sober, be vigilant; because your adversary the devil, as a roaring lion, walketh about, seeking whom he may devour:"
Isaiah 14:12 "How art thou fallen from heaven, O Lucifer, son of the morning! how art thou cut down to the ground, which didst weaken the nations!"
Luke 10:18 "And he said unto them, I beheld Satan as lightning fall from heaven."

The Devil as having power of death -
Hebrews 2:14 "Forasmuch then as the children are partakers of flesh and blood, he also himself likewise took part of the same; that through death he might destroy him that had the power of death, that is, the devil;"

God is not the God of the dead, but the living -
Mark 12:27"He is not the God of the dead, but the God of the living: ye therefore do greatly err"
Luke 20:38"For he is not a God of the dead, but of the living: for all live unto him."

Jesus as the god of peace and hope and not confusion -
1 Thesallonians 5:23"And the very God of peace sanctify you wholly; and I pray God your whole spirit and soul and body be preserved blameless unto the coming of our Lord Jesus Christ."
Romans 15:13"Now the God of hope fill you with all joy and peace in believing, that ye may abound in hope, through the power of the Holy Ghost."
Romans 16:20 "And the God of peace shall bruise Satan under your feet shortly. The grace of our Lord Jesus Christ be with you. Amen."
1 Corinthians 14:33 "For God is not the author of confusion, but of peace, as in all churches of the saints"

Jesus destroyed the works of the devil -
1 John 3:8 "He that committeth sin is of the devil; for the devil sinneth from the beginning. For this purpose the Son of God was manifested, that he might destroy the works of the devil."

The Devil as the "prince" of this world, prince of the power of the air (weather control) -
John 16:11"Of judgment, because the prince of this world is judged."
John 14:30 "Hereafter I will not talk much with you: for the prince of this world cometh, and hath nothing in me."
John 12:31 "Now is the judgment of this world: now shall the prince of this world be cast out."
Ephesians 2:2 "Wherein in time past ye walked according to the course of this world, according to the prince of the power of the air, the spirit that now worketh in the children of disobedience:"

The Devil has his own Angels -
Mathew 25:41 "Then shall he say also unto them on the left hand, Depart from me, ye cursed, into everlasting fire, prepared for the devil and his angels:"
Revelation 20:10 "And the devil that deceived them was cast into the lake of fire and brimstone, where the beast and the false prophet are, and shall be tormented day and night for ever and ever."

The Devil as the father of lies -
John 8:44 "Ye are of your father the devil, and the lusts of your father ye will do. He was a murderer from the beginning, and abode not in the truth, because there is no truth in him. When he speaketh a lie, he speaketh of his own: for he is a liar, and the father of it.'

The Devil as having the power of darkness -
Acts 26:18 "To open their eyes, and to turn them from darkness to light, and from the power of Satan unto God, that they may receive forgiveness of sins, and inheritance among them which are sanctified by faith that is in me."
Luke 22:53 "When I was daily with you in the temple, ye stretched forth no hands against me: but this is your hour, and the power of darkness."
Colossians 1:13 "Who hath delivered us from the power of darkness, and hath translated us into the kingdom of his dear Son:"
1 Thessalonians 5:5 Ye are all the children of light, and the children of the day: we are not of the night, nor of darkness."

The Devil as a tempter -
1 Thessalonians 3:5 "For this cause, when I could no longer forbear, I sent to know your faith, lest by some means the tempter have tempted you, and our labour be in vain."
Mathew 4:1 "Then was Jesus led up of the Spirit into the wilderness to be tempted of the devil."
Mathew 4:3 "And when the tempter came to him, he said, If thou be the Son of God, command that these stones be made bread."
1 Corinthians 7:5 "Defraud ye not one the other, except it be with consent for a time, that ye may give yourselves to fasting and prayer; and come together again, that Satan tempt you not for your incontinency."

The Devil dwells on the Earth -
Job 1:7 "And the Lord said unto Satan, Whence comest thou? Then Satan answered the Lord, and said, From going to and fro in the earth, and from walking up and down in it."
Revelation 2:13 "I know thy works, and where thou dwellest, even where Satan's seat is: and thou holdest fast my name, and hast not denied my faith, even in those days wherein Antipas was my faithful martyr, who was slain among you, where Satan dwelleth."

The Devil as the God of this world -
2 Corinthians 4:4 "In whom the god of this world hath blinded the minds of them which believe not, lest the light of the glorious gospel of Christ, who is the image of God, should shine unto them."

If I wanted to go outside the KJV and "connect-the-dots" I could add 1 John 5:19 to this list.

Based on those scriptures from the KJV we can deduce that Satan is
1.The God of death
2.The God of this world (Earth)
3.The God of chaos (opposite of peace)
4.The God of doubt or gloom (opposite of hope)
5.The Author of confusion (chaos,lies)
6. The God of lies, not truth
7. Referred to by the names of Dragon, serpent, Lucifer, Devil, Adversary
8. Capable of lust (desires)
9. A murderer from the beginning (war)
10. Associated with darkness, or has the power of
 
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James 2:19 "Thou believest that there is one God; thou doest well: the devils also believe, and tremble."

The devil is not THE God, but is under that, God of this world. God to anyone not in Christ.
 
While there may possibly be some mythological fallen angel that we like to call Satan, I just don't see it any more. Maybe it is because my spiritual eyes are focused only on Christ, and the adversary no longer holds any power over me that I should look for one. But again, I believe the ideas we have about Satan, or the devil, or what ever we choose to call him, are borne out of mythology and not necessarily the Bible. Laying aside all mythology, when I read of Satan, the devil, the adversary or any such name as it is characterized in the scriptures, I can not help but now associate those titles in some way with the LAW. The commandment is what we wrestle with. The LAW is the principalities and powers that we wrestle with and the temptation to measure our own righteousness by obedience versus living by Faith under Grace. There are a couple scriptures that have presented a strong corollary between the accuser and the Law.

Rev 12:9-10 And the great dragon was cast out, that old serpent, called the Devil, and Satan, which deceiveth the whole world: he was cast out into the earth, and his angels were cast out with him. And I heard a loud voice saying in heaven, Now is come salvation, and strength, and the kingdom of our God, and the power of his Christ: for the accuser of our brethren is cast down, which accused them before our God day and night.

John 5:43-47 I am come in my Father's name, and ye receive me not: if another shall come in his own name, him ye will receive. How can ye believe, which receive honour one of another, and seek not the honour that cometh from God only? Do not think that I will accuse you to the Father: there is one that accuseth you, even Moses, in whom ye trust. For had ye believed Moses, ye would have believed me: for he wrote of me. But if ye believe not his writings, how shall ye believe my words.

Now I am not saying that Moses is the Devil, but Moses was the law giver, and here Jesus makes it plain that the Law of Moses is our accuser. It is the Law that convinces us and convicts us of sin after the flesh, and then begs us to obey it. To me, having let go of the mythology and waiting on the spirit of the Lord to teach me such things, the scriptures are so much clearer and easier to understand in it's simplicity when I correlate the LAW to the titles that have been ascribed to Satan. For instance in Rev 13:4 when we read they worshiped the Dragon who gave power to the beast, consider that it is the Law that gives power to the beast, and there is a more tangible association when we consider that people do tend to worship the law and hold it in higher esteem than they do the Spirit of the Lord. If you are one that ascribes the name of Lucifer in Isaiah 14 to Satan, then consider that it is said he was the cherub that covered the mercy seat. The penalty of the LAW is Death, yet it is God who demands Mercy.

There is a significant amount energy spent within the Christian communities fighting against or just opposing the idea of secular gay marriage. And in the defense of their beliefs, they turn to the LAW, and the LAW gives them the authority to judge those people as sinners, while telling them the only way those sinners can be saved is if they conform to obedience to the LAW after the flesh. And with the Power and Authority that the LAW has given them, they have become the Accuser of the brethren. Jesus did not leave us with a commandment to accuse one another, he left us with the commandment to forgive one another in the face of the Law, and thereby perfect the Mercy that God demands.
 
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ezrider said:
While there may possibly be some mythological fallen angel that we like to call Satan, I just don't see it any more. Maybe it is because my spiritual eyes are focused only on Christ, and the adversary no longer holds any power over me that I should look for one. But again, I believe the ideas we have about Satan, or the devil, or what ever we choose to call him, are borne out of mythology and not necessarily the Bible. Laying aside all mythology, when I read of Satan, the devil, the adversary or any such name as it is characterized in the scriptures, I can not help but now associate those titles in some way with the LAW. The commandment is what we wrestle with. The LAW is the principalities and powers that we wrestle with and the temptation to measure our own righteousness by obedience versus living by Faith under Grace. There are a couple scriptures that have presented a strong corollary between the accuser and the Law.

Rev 12:9-10 And the great dragon was cast out, that old serpent, called the Devil, and Satan, which deceiveth the whole world: he was cast out into the earth, and his angels were cast out with him. And I heard a loud voice saying in heaven, Now is come salvation, and strength, and the kingdom of our God, and the power of his Christ: for the accuser of our brethren is cast down, which accused them before our God day and night.

John 5:43-47 I am come in my Father's name, and ye receive me not: if another shall come in his own name, him ye will receive. How can ye believe, which receive honour one of another, and seek not the honour that cometh from God only? Do not think that I will accuse you to the Father: there is one that accuseth you, even Moses, in whom ye trust. For had ye believed Moses, ye would have believed me: for he wrote of me. But if ye believe not his writings, how shall ye believe my words.

Now I am not saying that Moses is the Devil, but Moses was the law giver, and here Jesus makes it plain that the Law of Moses is our accuser. It is the Law that convinces us and convicts us of sin after the flesh, and then begs us to obey it. To me, having let go of the mythology and waiting on the spirit of the Lord to teach me such things, the scriptures are so much clearer and easier to understand in it's simplicity when I correlate the LAW to the titles that have been ascribed to Satan. For instance in Rev 13:4 when we read they worshiped the Dragon who gave power to the beast, consider that it is the Law that gives power to the beast, and there is a more tangible association when we consider that people do tend to worship the law and hold it in higher esteem than they do the Spirit of the Lord. If you are one that ascribes the name of Lucifer in Isaiah 14 to Satan, then consider that it is said he was the cherub that covered the mercy seat. The penalty of the LAW is Death, yet it is God who demands Mercy.

There is a significant amount energy spent within the Christian communities fighting against or just opposing the idea of secular gay marriage. And in the defense of their beliefs, they turn to the LAW, and the LAW gives them the authority to judge those people as sinners, while telling them the only way those sinners can be saved is if they conform to obedience to the LAW after the flesh. And with the Power and Authority that the LAW has given them, they have become the Accuser of the brethren. Jesus did not leave us with a commandment to accuse one another, he left us with the commandment to forgive one another in the face of the Law, and thereby perfect the Mercy that God demands.
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I am sure Satan exists, even as vanity exists, even as lies exist, even as a false image of god exists. Satan therefore did use the law as a means to both tempt and accuse. An exercise in proving mankind as lesser than himself, through which he condemned himself.
 
turnorburn said:
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tob
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Colossians 2:12-16King James Version (KJV)
12 Buried with him in baptism, wherein also ye are risen with him through the faith of the operation of God, who hath raised him from the dead.

13 And you, being dead in your sins and the uncircumcision of your flesh, hath he quickened together with him, having forgiven you all trespasses;

14 Blotting out the handwriting of ordinances that was against us, which was contrary to us, and took it out of the way, nailing it to his cross;

15 And having spoiled principalities and powers, he made a shew of them openly, triumphing over them in it.

If you recall, Jesus came to destroy the works of the devil which were first sown in the Garden of Eden. Jesus also came to destroy that enmity that was between man and God. For this is the work of the devil as can be seen in many scriptures. Such as Job where on one hand he tempts and the other he accuses. And in Revelations where it is said he makes accusation continually before God, while he is also the temptor of men. But Satan is a liar, and consequently a hypocrite, who builds his kiingdom upon doubt and therefore questions those things built upon faith. On one hand he tempts and on the other he accuses and like a bookie he plays both ends against the middle unto his profit while he demeans both man and God in Whose Image we are made.

Now some may not like what I say here, but I believe the law was a trap for Satan. For we know the law was administered by angels. As the guardian Cherub the devil could have the keys to hell and the power of death. So I believe he usurped the law to accuse and to tempt and that he is a self-righteous legalist. He thinks men are to serve the law rather than the law serve men. And he loathes all those less gifted than himself without any pity for that which is flesh.

But when the time was right, God sent His Word made flesh. And because Satan did not comprehend mercy, he did not see his own demise in crucifying this man according to the law. The scriptures that back this up are many. Satan entered into Judas, and the vineyard keepers saw the son and thought they could get his inheritance. Quite telling is that he nailed to the cross the ordinances that were against us and made a spectacle of Principalities and powers. But my favorite is in Revelations where it is said that Jesus was caught up to heaven and men overcame Satan by the blood of the lamb and by their testimony. What I mean to point out is that the cross was meant to defeat Satan and his works. And it was Satan being the guardian Cherub, who used the law to crucify the innocent, even the very son of God. I don't think he saw it coming when Jesus said, "forgive them Father for they know not what they do", and "My God, My God why have you forsaken me?" And after all this was witnessed in heaven, war broke out in heaven and Satan was cast out. So it is that Satan was made a spectacle of. And by his own hand he was shown to be a merciless self righteous overzealous prosecutor. Again my point is to say that the cross is what was Satan's demise and the cross could not occur without the law.
 
Oh its just that what I've been noticing recently are statements that depart from the norm such as "there may possibly be some mythological fallen angel that we like to call Satan" and from another thread "Hell is a metaphor" I'm just an observer observing wondering what the general public that reads these threads must be thinking is all.. :thud

tob
 
turnorburn said:
Oh its just that what I've been noticing recently are statements that depart from the norm such as "there may possibly be some mythological fallen angel that we like to call Satan" and from another thread "Hell is a metaphor" I'm just an observer observing wondering what the general public that reads these threads must be thinking is all.. :thud

tob
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The scriptures point to a falling away. If Satan is a myth, then so is the Christ. I try to point out all the contradictions happening in the minds of those who are made helpless in their reasoning because they don't understand that the term God is an axiom, in that God is Love, and Love is the goodness in mankind .
 
Well childeye for one thing there is no goodness in mankind not according to Gods word there isn't.. :shame

Romans 3:10 As it is written, There is none righteous, no, not one:

11 There is none that understandeth, there is none that seeketh after God.

12 They are all gone out of the way, they are together become unprofitable; there is none that doeth good, no, not one.

13 Their throat is an open sepulchre; with their tongues they have used deceit; the poison of asps is under their lips:

14 Whose mouth is full of cursing and bitterness:

15 Their feet are swift to shed blood:

16 Destruction and misery are in their ways:

17 And the way of peace have they not known:

18 There is no fear of God before their eyes.

tob
 
turnorburn said:
Well childeye for one thing there is no goodness in mankind not according to Gods word there isn't.. :shame

Romans 3:10 As it is written, There is none righteous, no, not one:

11 There is none that understandeth, there is none that seeketh after God.

12 They are all gone out of the way, they are together become unprofitable; there is none that doeth good, no, not one.

13 Their throat is an open sepulchre; with their tongues they have used deceit; the poison of asps is under their lips:

14 Whose mouth is full of cursing and bitterness:

15 Their feet are swift to shed blood:

16 Destruction and misery are in their ways:

17 And the way of peace have they not known:

18 There is no fear of God before their eyes.

tob
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You misunderstand me or perhaps I wasn't clear. There is nothing good in the flesh that is the substance of mankind's body, but the Word of God is the Light and life of mankind and He is Spirit. That is to say anything good in mankind is by the Spirit that is God. Therefore we are vessels of clay, but whether filled with Light or darkness is what determines our character, and whether it be godly or ungodly.

Hence in view of this, God is an axiom. An axiom being the self evident foundation of a sound reasoning. God is Who produces goodness, benevolence, wisdom, and all the other fruits of His Spirit. His Spirit exist in mankind by grace.
 
Even a prince must submit to the authority of the King... nowhere in scripture have I heard the devil ever having a title higher than Prince...

And this begs the question, is a Prince granted more authority than a King?
 
childeye said:
You misunderstand me or perhaps I wasn't clear. There is nothing good in the flesh that is the substance of mankind's body, but the Word of God is the Light and life of mankind and He is Spirit. That is to say anything good in mankind is by the Spirit that is God. Therefore we are vessels of clay, but whether filled with Light or darkness is what determines our character, and whether it be godly or ungodly.

Hence in view of this, God is an axiom. An axiom being the self evident foundation of a sound reasoning. God is Who produces goodness, benevolence, wisdom, and all the other fruits of His Spirit. His Spirit exist in mankind by grace.
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I always kind of looked like it this way... Every human being is composed of dust and the divine breath of God himself. And God called it "Very Good". We each have a divine spark within us and that divine spark is "Good", for it is of God himself.

For those of us who answer the call, we are indwelt by the Holy Spirit and given new birth... In short, you can't separate the spiritual from the physical because we we never created as simply physical creatures, and we were never created as solely spiritual people. In a way, we are these divine little dirt clods lol. When we help another in this world, we do so by using our flesh, but it is from the Spirit that all good comes from and it is manifest in the flesh. Without the flesh, how would one extend his hand to assist another in need?
 
jasonc said:
leviathan? where is that in the bible? you know that is associated with a large snake, reptile or whale.
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Have you noticed on some of the mosaics that have been uncovered in Israel there is a sea monster depicted that rather looks like a dragon of sorts, makes me think of leviathan and Nessy.
 
Deborah13 said:
Have you noticed on some of the mosaics that have been uncovered in Israel there is a sea monster depicted that rather looks like a dragon of sorts, makes me think of leviathan and Nessy.
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I haven seen those but again some creationist think dragons may have been around in some form. we used to think panda's were myths.
 
jasonc said:
leviathan? where is that in the bible? you know that is associated with a large snake, reptile or whale.
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Job. I do believe there is more to it than alligators, snakes, and crocodiles. Leviathan is king over all the children of pride.
 
The word Leviathan simply means coiled and twisted...
I've read some Jewish thought on Leviathan from my commentary on Job... I wonder what Rashi has to say Jason? His commentary is on Chabad.
 
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