THE DOWNFALL OF ELECTRIC VEHICLES?

[GodsGrace]

Do you own an electric car?
Would you buy one?
Are you having problems with it?


A survey discovered that charging logistics is the primary reason why Americans aren’t buying electric vehicles.

Consumer Reports, which said it surveyed around 8,000 Americans, found that 61 percent said they wouldn’t seek to own an electric vehicle because of charging logistics while 55 percent cited the number of miles a vehicle can go per charge. Another 52 percent said that the costs of buying and maintaining an electric vehicle are cost-prohibitive.

Another 46 percent of the respondents stated they have not heard of any financial incentives available for owners of electric vehicles.

“We found that 14 percent of American drivers say they would ‘definitely’ buy or lease an electric-only vehicle if they were to buy a vehicle today,” said Consumer Reports. “That’s up markedly from the 4 percent who said the same in a 2020 nationally representative survey from CR of 3,392 licensed U.S. drivers.”

According to recent figures from Kelly Blue Book, the average price of a new electric vehicle hovered at roughly $56,000. In contrast, the average price of a new compact was about $25,000 at about the same time. The average price of a new, non-electric SUV was $34,000, while the electric version was nearly $45,000.

Meanwhile, a recent report from data analysis and advisory firm J.D. Power, however, found that electric vehicles and plug-in hybrids may have more problems than internal combustion engines.

While internal combustion engine vehicles averaged 175 problems per 100 vehicles, this jumped to 239 among plug-in hybrids and 240 among electric vehicles, a June 28 press release of the J.D. Power 2022 U.S. Initial Quality Study stated. Lower scores represented higher-quality vehicles.

Tesla models, which were included in the industry calculation for the first time, averaged 226 problems per 100 vehicles, according to the report.

“Automakers continue to launch vehicles that are more and more technologically complex in an era in which there have been many shortages of critical components to support them,” David Amodeo, director of global automotive at J.D. Power, according to the press release.

source: The Epoch Times

 

[Edward]

Electric vehichles may have zero CO2 emissions but the manufacture and inclusion of bigger batteries than combustion engines need means the CO2 emissions into the atmosphere is way higher before the car even gets assembled so the offset is moot. These are not cleaner vehichles at all.

 

[jasonc]

Do you own an electric car?
Would you buy one?
Are you having problems with it?


A survey discovered that charging logistics is the primary reason why Americans aren’t buying electric vehicles.

Consumer Reports, which said it surveyed around 8,000 Americans, found that 61 percent said they wouldn’t seek to own an electric vehicle because of charging logistics while 55 percent cited the number of miles a vehicle can go per charge. Another 52 percent said that the costs of buying and maintaining an electric vehicle are cost-prohibitive.

Another 46 percent of the respondents stated they have not heard of any financial incentives available for owners of electric vehicles.

“We found that 14 percent of American drivers say they would ‘definitely’ buy or lease an electric-only vehicle if they were to buy a vehicle today,” said Consumer Reports. “That’s up markedly from the 4 percent who said the same in a 2020 nationally representative survey from CR of 3,392 licensed U.S. drivers.”

According to recent figures from Kelly Blue Book, the average price of a new electric vehicle hovered at roughly $56,000. In contrast, the average price of a new compact was about $25,000 at about the same time. The average price of a new, non-electric SUV was $34,000, while the electric version was nearly $45,000.

Meanwhile, a recent report from data analysis and advisory firm J.D. Power, however, found that electric vehicles and plug-in hybrids may have more problems than internal combustion engines.

While internal combustion engine vehicles averaged 175 problems per 100 vehicles, this jumped to 239 among plug-in hybrids and 240 among electric vehicles, a June 28 press release of the J.D. Power 2022 U.S. Initial Quality Study stated. Lower scores represented higher-quality vehicles.

Tesla models, which were included in the industry calculation for the first time, averaged 226 problems per 100 vehicles, according to the report.

“Automakers continue to launch vehicles that are more and more technologically complex in an era in which there have been many shortages of critical components to support them,” David Amodeo, director of global automotive at J.D. Power, according to the press release.

source: The Epoch Times

Not that gas engine cars are these built great.

Let me see 4 hours to do a starter ,the same for an alternator

 

[GodsGrace]

Electric vehichles may have zero CO2 emissions but the manufacture and inclusion of bigger batteries than combustion engines need means the CO2 emissions into the atmosphere is way higher before the car even gets assembled so the offset is moot. These are not cleaner vehichles at all.

I was shocked at the price.
Why build them if they're not cleaner.

Some believe jets are worse for the environmtand and some think vehicles

Got any insight?

 

[Edward]

I was shocked at the price.
Why build them if they're not cleaner.

Some believe jets are worse for the environmtand and some think vehicles

Got any insight?

Well they've been advertising go green for long enough now that everybody has a vague idea that we're hurting our planet and we do want to help and do our part. So they got us thinking green...and that means we're ready to buy green. Make sense?

Electric cars are more expensive to buy. Electric cars are more expensive to work on and have more service issues than regular cars. Americans have demonstrated that we're willing to pay more if it helps the panet and is cheaper for us to run. So there's the reason to build electric cars. Climate change is an sales tool and nothing more.

And people don't usually think about what it took to build it or how soon we'll have to start making repairs on it and how much will that cost? It's pretty hard to even find charging stations from what I hear. SO I think that he plan is to ride the go green and cheaper (Lol) electric cars until they make 900 trillion dollars on them and they'll come out with, well a study has shown that overall impact on the planet is really less overall with combustion engines rather than electric ones so we'll regear (which of course will drive the prices higher!) for combustion engines and make another 500 million Trillion dollars on that.

The US is the largest contributor to greenhouse emissions, so is bound to be the biggest liars about it too, lol. I think that some jets put out way more CO2 than the cars do, but many airplanes do not have higher emissions than cars. And all of the worlds militaries are all building more and more jets. But the clearly proven biggest contributor to greenhouse emissions overall has always been the energy industry. They dump way more CO2 into the atmosphere every day than any other industry, because most still burn coal to generate the electricity.

Yeah your electric car may have zero emissions while you drive it, but when you have to chatge it up...they burn coal to generate the electric. So the entire industry is a lie.

I wont ever buy an electric car. What is the good old way? Oh, it's sitting in my driveway! A 1995 F250 with a 351w and that's an engine that one can easily work on at home still. :wink

How many auto mechanics have the skills to properly diagnose and repair electric setups? O I can do that for you Mamn, no problem.
(Later): Well you see mamn, when the flux capacitor went bad it fried your dilithium crystals so those need replaced also at an additional 2800 dollars...
But the car had a blown fuse only and the kid fried the crystals because he told the boss he can do that stuff and the boss wanted a break so hired a peon, lol.

Yeah, I'll keep my old Windsor motor and maybe just stock some extra parts for it for in the future.

 

[jasonc]

Modern cars ,even gas aren't meant to be fixed easily .


There are plastic parts designed poorly that simply no one makes and you can't drive the car without it .

 

[Edward]

Another truth that I read is about Volcanos. ANytime a volcano "burps" it puts more CO2 into the air than the entire planet does in any given year. And there's more and more volcanic activity today than ever before worldwide. (I've heard this is because Hell is inside the earth and has been expanding by all of the new people coming in over years and years.)

I don't think that climate change should be an issue at all and for good reason.

Scripture says Jesus holds everything together and scripture does not really mention, and the climat shall change and be trouble for many...it just doesn't say that. Can't God create a planet that can last until His plan is complete and He returns again? Lol!

We don't have to worry about climate change, Jesus is coming back way before we could kill this planet (with climate change!)

 

[Edward]

Modern cars ,even gas aren't meant to be fixed easily .


There are plastic parts designed poorly that simply no one makes and you can't drive the car without it .

Right. My 351w can be worked on though! Even if an EMP strikes close and takes out the electronic Distributor, a new point type Distributor will fix that. Can you still set points on an engine? I can...

A 351 Windsor is a nice basic engine, even with fuel injection to bring the MPG up off it's knees, lol.

On a side note, did you know that there will be no more regular PSC blower motors installed in new equipment within another year or two? All of them are going to the ECM motors. (Talking about Furnaces and air conditioners). So there wont be no $100 motor change outs anymore! They will continue to make some PSC motors for the now "obsolete" equipment for repairs, but the price is going up Cuz, well, they're obsolete and hard to find now...
Better pick up a extra motor and a couple capacitors for it to have on hand...

I have an ECM motor in my Furnace, and the selling point is, the ECM motor pulls about 1.5 to 2.5 amps where the PSC motors were pulling 4 to 6 amps, so there IS significant less electrical usage by the motor!
But you better put that money that you saved in an envelope and save it to pay for the new module or motor that goes bad just like everythig else and this is new technology, so those ECM motors are like $500 bucks Wholesale, so motor changes are going to be pushing $1000 now installed. (Some savings, huh?! Lol)

 

[jasonc]

Points and condensors are effected by emp.a condenser is a bi metallic circuit board that would be burned out by that massive pulse .

 

[Edward]

Points and condensors are effected by emp.a condenser is a bi metallic circuit board that would be burned out by that massive pulse .

I mean as an extra part to have on hand though. My understanding is if it's not hooked up to an electrical circuit and just sitting on a shelf then the emp wouldn;t hurt it.

 

[jasonc]

I mean as an extra part to have on hand though. My understanding is if it's not hooked up to an electrical circuit and just sitting on a shelf then the emp wouldn;t hurt it.

Actually it would .

You can fry wiring .a wire not connected would conduct an eddy current and try to ground itself .lightning has damaged electronics that were off and not plugged in.

Your car lights would be overloaded,the alternator itself fried . Imagine putting 24 v on a 12v system .

 

[Edward]

Actually it would .

You can fry wiring .a wire not connected would conduct an eddy current and try to ground itself .lightning has damaged electronics that were off and not plugged in.

Your car lights would be overloaded,the alternator itself fried . Imagine putting 24 v on a 12v system .

Well, if that does happen then there's always Translation by Faith if I have to go somewhere.

 

[jasonc]

We have aircraft that can "burn" devices and even set off crude primitive devices that use simple methods .

 

[Edward]

We have aircraft that can "burn" devices and even set off crude primitive devices that use simple methods .

I've read about some of that. Geez all the cell phone towers are dangerous too. Sure it's phone communication which is low voltage and can be done with fiberoptic wires.

But have you ever walked up close and looked at a tower and the feed lines which run to it? I have, they're like 2" diameter! What do they need all that power for?

From what I've heard, while they are low voltage now, if they wanted to, they could pump up the voltage and kill everything within so much of a radius. Silent weapons for quiet wars. That's why they have such big power lines to them.

 

[Nobody]

Electric and hybrid vehicles is a huge con game inflicted upon the gullible American people in the guise of saving the planet from global warming.

• Where does electricity come from? Answer: power plants run using coal, water, nuclear, wind, solar, oil, etc.
• Who has thrown environmental roadblocks for the construction of new plants and refineries? Answer: Liberals and socialists.
• Why is America not energy independent? This is against the interests of politicians of all stripes.
• What effect has current energy policy effected global warming? None. The USA is buying oil from countries like China who are using coal with little or no care about the environment.
• Is wind a harmless energy producer? It's good for the Chinese economy since they make the equipment necessary. Also, the turbines used kill large birds of prey like eagles.
• Is solar a harmless energy producer? It too is good for the Chinese economy since they make the equipment necessary. Defections of light are known to burn birds in air.
• Batteries for electric vehicles are expensive to replace and expensive to dispose of in the environment.

Carbon dioxide has been demonized by scientists. Greenery thrives on it. Why don't we just plant more trees? Photosynthesis turns carbon dioxide into oxygen. Problem solved.

 

[jasonc]

I've read about some of that. Geez all the cell phone towers are dangerous too. Sure it's phone communication which is low voltage and can be done with fiberoptic wires.

But have you ever walked up close and looked at a tower and the feed lines which run to it? I have, they're like 2" diameter! What do they need all that power for?

From what I've heard, while they are low voltage now, if they wanted to, they could pump up the voltage and kill everything within so much of a radius. Silent weapons for quiet wars. That's why they have such big power lines to them.

They need more then you think.
I know who to ask as he climbed them and has a degree in those things .but I'm not wasting an it director's time.

Let's say Enough power to fry you easily

 

[Dorothy Mae]

Jordan Peterson had to read a number of environmental pieces during one job for the government, I think, and he said he was more encouraged afterwards. There are more trees now in the N. hemisphere than 100 years ago among other pieces of information not communicated to the public.

A few months of Covid lockdown and the mediterranean turned clean blue and dolphins were seen from beaches.Took the environment a few months to recover from decades of „misuse.“

Europe is now facing a major energy problem thanks to the greenies. Sometimes I think they cry “save the planet” from a moral high horse but do not include the people living on it. That part of life on the planet can die, as far as they’re concerned, except for them, of course. Sounds like worship of nature to me, iow, paganism.

 

[Corn Pop]

Let's ask the elites they always know best. Oops wrong question, suppose to ask how many arrived in private jets.

 

[hawkman]

Do you own an electric car?

No.

Would you buy one?
Are you having problems with it?

To keep from walking everywhere I needed to be , yes I would buy an electric car . I wonder if it will come to that .

So what is a road trip like in a rented electric car, they found out .
I spent more time charging it than I did sleeping.

 

[stovebolts]

Do you own an electric car?

No

Would you buy one?

Yes

Are you having problems with it?

I have a very good friend that has a Volt and he loves it. He's never had any issues with it.

Personally, I think they are cool. I work from home, but if I needed to go into work, they have charging stations where I can charge for free. considering it's a 100 mile round trip, it's like free gas!

I'm actually contemplating the new Chevy Electric Silverado when it comes out.

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Of course, I'm not talking about the high end model. I want the work truck which I hear will come in around 30k.

It boasts 400 miles on a charge, which is equivalent to our current Silverado and with gas prices, it would be a net saving each year.