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The earth turning? pendlum experement.

Reading up in the science forum, but unable to post this there.
I went into a Cathedrel once not sure if it was St Peters Cathedrel in Leningrad, dont quote me though, could have been some where eles.

At one end of the cathedrel was a large circle, lined out, and a pendulum was swung which went across the circle,

back wards and forwards ect.

and in time moved closer to a block of wood on the edge of the circle, then the block was knocked over by the pendulum.

Showing the circle with in the Cathedrel was moving, showing the Earth was rotating,

does the sun have an orbit? as many feel every thing goes around the sun, where as others the sun orbits the earth.

johnny
 
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does the sun have an orbit? as many feel every thing goes around the sun, where as others the sun orbits the earth.

johnny

Yes, the sun does have an orbit. It orbits the center of the Milky Way, along with all other stars in the galaxy, where some people believe that there is a black hole. I'm afraid I don't know whether the Milky Way orbits anything, but if it does, I suppose it would orbit the center of the Universe.
 
If the Earth is spinning but stationary, i can under stand how the satelights, space station , stay as they do,

if the earth is orbiting the sun as we are all taught, but may not be the case, like wise we came from monkeys, taught as fact, ect

what would be the distance around the sun, how long does it take, what speed would the earth be traveling ,

how does the space station keep up with the earths orbit. if this is the case.

if we are moving around the sun, and the sun also has an orbit, my reason for asking there are said to be three large objects heading for the earth. ?

3 Very Large Objects In Space Flying To Earth - Canada ufo ...8 Dec 2010 ... SETI Astrophysicist Craig Kasnov has announced the approach to the Earth of 3 very large, very fast moving objects. The length of the ...

how if we are spinning and moving, some thing can be heading towards us. ?

johnny
 
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Johnny, you will find very few, if any rational and sane adults that still believe the sun revolves around the Earth. But orbiting around the center of our galaxy, yes, as all the other stars, planets, and everything else in our galaxy ultimately does.
 
If the Earth is spinning but stationary, i can under stand how the satelights, space station , stay as they do,
Satalites and the space station rotate with us. They all have engines that run on fuel, when they run out of fuel we replace them.

if the earth is orbiting the sun as we are all taught, but may not be the case, like wise we came from monkeys, taught as fact, ect
I don't know what you are trying to say with this. Well, I do, but I want a clearer idea first.

what would be the distance around the sun,
939,951,264.4 KM
how long does it take,
Roughly a year.
what speed would the earth be traveling ,
on average 939951264.4 km/1 year

how does the space station keep up with the earths orbit. if this is the case.
Earth's gravity keeps the space station close to us, while the space station also has massive engines to keep it rotating around earth.

if we are moving around the sun, and the sun also has an orbit, my reason for asking there are said to be three large objects heading for the earth. ?
What three objects are you talking about.

3 Very Large Objects In Space Flying To Earth - Canada ufo ...8 Dec 2010 ... SETI Astrophysicist Craig Kasnov has announced the approach to the Earth of 3 very large, very fast moving objects. The length of the ...

how if we are spinning and moving, some thing can be heading towards us. ?
All bodies in our solar system have a gravitational pull to them. As all the bodies move, bodies move closer and farther away from each other. Astronomers have been observing this for years. When Einstein put forth the theory of Special Relativity, we where able to understand distances between planets and stars better.

I hope that helped.
 
lance those engines dont keep the space station orbit but rather correct for orbital decay is simply a better way. as anything in orbit actually is in a slow free fall, and to maintain that orbital plane , engines must be used, but not continously. just enough thrust to keep the thing in that plane.
 
Earth Quake recently of Long Island, 122 miles from New York, unusaul for this area, one area to watch?

As posted at todays news forum http://www.davidicke.com/forum/

the likelihood of an 8.0 magnitude or higher earthquake striking our Planet December 11th to January 8th, 2011, is a “near certainty”

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Massive Earthquake Fears Rise After Mysterious Object Moves Nearer To Earth


December 10, 2010

Massive Earthquake Fears Rise After Mysterious Object Moves Nearer To Earth

By: Sorcha Faal, and as reported to her Western Subscribers

A new report circulating in the Kremlin today authored by Doctor-Scientist Alexander Stepanov of St. Petersburg's Pulkovo Astronomical Observatory warns that the massive dark Jupiter-sized object lurking at our solar system’s outer edge appears to have “accelerated” its movement towards our Earth. When “coupled” with the Total Lunar Eclipse of December 20/21, Dr. Stepanov suggests, the likelihood of an 8.0 magnitude or higher earthquake striking our Planet December 11th to January 8th, 2011, is a “near certainty”.

The massive dark Jupiter-sized object being mentioned in this report coincides with the research planetary scientist John Matese of the University of Louisiana at Lafayette and his colleague Daniel Whitmire who in 1999 postulated that this dark, Jupiter-sized object is responsible for hurling chunks of ice and dust toward Earth, and as we can read:

“After examining the orbits of more than 100 comets in the Minor Planet Center database, the Matese and Whitmire concluded that 80 percent of comets born in the Oort Cloud were pushed out by the galaxy’s gravity. The remaining 20 percent, however, needed a nudge from a distant object about 1.4 times the mass of Jupiter.”

The existence of a massive planetary object in our Solar System affecting life on our Planet Earth has long been debated since the ancient Semitic peoples of the Middle East wrote extensively of its existence and attributed it to being the “home of the gods”. The ancient Babylonians referred to it as Nibiru and in modern times it has been called “Planet X”. Spanish scientists further postulate that this massive object is a brown dwarf “dark companion” to our Sun.

Important to note about Russian research papers dealing with our Solar System are that they all subscribe to what is called The Electric Universe Theory and stands starkly opposed to those theories held by Westerners.

One of Russia’s leading researchers on effects of The Electric Universe is Doctor-Scientist Habibullo Abdussamatov who is the head of space research at St. Petersburg's Pulkovo Astronomical Observatory who in 2009 issued a paper stating that the primary factor responsible for causing climate variations on Earth is our Sun, not carbon dioxide, and as we can read:

“Observations of the sun show that, as for the increase in temperature, carbon dioxide is not guilty, and, as for what lies ahead in the coming decades, it is not catastrophic warming, but a global and very prolonged temperature drop.”

Potentially even worse for our Planet is the research conducted by Professor Bill Napier, from Cardiff University, this past year stating that the mini-ice age we experienced 13,000 years ago was caused by a single hour-long hailstorm from space, and that when coupled with Dr. Stepanov’s research places the blame for this catastrophic event squarely on this massive mysterious object orbiting out beyond the Ort Cloud.

Though not directly mentioning the existence of this mysterious object, the United States NASA space organization has issued a warning for 2012 that the electrical effects upon our Sun will rival the Solar Maximum of 1958 and could very well “play havoc” with technology.

The earthquake danger envisioned by Dr. Stepanov in this report centers around the “sudden accelerated movement” of this mysterious object evidenced by the increasing number of comet-like objects being thrown into the Sun and “destabilizing” our Earth’s electro-magnetic shield due to massive Solar blasts thus lessoning our Planet’s ability to counter-act its own tidal forces.

Interesting to note in this report is Dr. Stepanov stating that the likely precursor to this coming giant earthquake will be a massive low pressure system exerting downward atmospheric pressure upon the Earth’s surface, and which this past week has seen an outbreak the likes of which have not been seen in modern times.

From what is being described as a “monster storm” due to hit the United States this weekend, to the deadly catastrophic rains that have hit South America and Australia, to the “once in a lifetime” cold that has gripped Great Britain and the unprecedented cold and snow wreaking havoc across all of Europe, perhaps never before in modern history have so many major weather events hit our World all at the same time.

To this report’s warning of a giant earthquake to quickly follow these major weather events it is not in our knowing if it will happen. What is in our knowing, however, is that it is better to be prepared for even the worst catastrophe than to be left unprepared.
 
Recent weather around the world far from normal, heat wave took down Russia, floods,Asisa, China, Australia, big freeze, northern Europe,
to continuie next week, drought. famine, crops destroyed.
All data showing an increase, also Earth Quakes, volcanos, a swarm recently Gulf of Aden, 40 earth quakes in 36 hours.
The birth pains are increasing, johnny
 
Okay johnny you believe it's the apocalypse is coming when do you think this will be?

If I believe you this one time and the apocalypse dosen't happen would you agree to never start this nonsense about the world ending again?

Because I get tired of the next apocalypse story. I was 12 when I was told the world was gonna be destroyed by the millennium bug. All that happened was my old 486 computer in my bedroom reckoned the date was 1900. Amusing not apocalyptic. Every 2 years it's a new meteor or some bizzare planetary transit that signifies the end of the world.

And yeah everything orbits the sun the collisions work on "intercept orbits." where if an elliptical orbit crosses a circular or another elliptical orbit eventually one day in several million years or so they will probably collide.
 
To say you can see the wheels turning, calamity going from nation to nation. As Gods word says it will,
so looking at the signs of the times, seeing what lines up with scripture,

is this such a crime, what are you seeing, ? what to you is and is not relevent. ?

we know the storm is coming. not if just when, if you havnt noticed for some their time has already come.

johnny
 
Recent weather around the world far from normal, heat wave took down Russia, floods,Asisa, China, Australia, big freeze, northern Europe,
to continuie next week, drought. famine, crops destroyed.
All data showing an increase, also Earth Quakes, volcanos, a swarm recently Gulf of Aden, 40 earth quakes in 36 hours.
The birth pains are increasing, johnny

look i believe that the lord is coming soon as said but i also dont jump the gun. you mentioned a big freeze in the u.s. a cold front will hit florida(where i live) and its getting cold but no mention of any snow(which is rare).and last week it was below 30F.
 
I didnt mention the US only that some on the Eastern side had, had alot of snow, closing highyways ect, i was contacted last year by a women who hadbeen snowed in for some time in the US, the severity of the storms and amounts of snow, had caught every one out, many unprepared, there were fatalities, do to the cold, accidents, ect

then they had to get ready to evecuate because of flooding, when it finaly ended, many were left for some time with out power, electricity.

The big freeze i was reffering to, in the end times discussion, i keep seeing huskies post, was experts who know far more than myself, on this subject, state that europe, the UK could see the coldest winter for 1000 years?

The weather here in the UK, certainly delivered a knock down punch, the first punch landed in the first round, with a few rounds still to go, Scotland has bearly recovered got up,garages had run out of fuel, the roads closed, on major routes, grid lock on others, and freezing artics winds are expected to come again next week, from the North, right down through europe,

before was a freeze blast more from the East, Russia, Siberia.

not normal for this time of year, i dont know how many times i heard people say recently, we have never seen
it this bad, even during last winter, which hit some quiet hard.

so things seem to be a changing? johnny
 
in the 1800's the uk went through a mini-ice age.and does the bible really say that the earthquakes will be more intense? lets see matthew 24:7
For nation shall rise against nation, and kingdom against kingdom: and there shall be famines, and pestilences, and earthquakes, in divers places.


well on the earthquakes alone. do we see that saying more and more. not really just in different parts of the world.nothing on intensity. and if we look to archeology and natural history we see that in rome, china and other parts f the world then had earthquakes.

i think the lord was saying that when he comes we will be in such a position to see that the earthquakes are happening and with the wars and others its close. but nothing about the intensity there.
 
Johny, are you a Chistian? Or are you here because you're curious as to what Christians think of all this stuff you post?
 
before was a freeze blast more from the East, Russia, Siberia.

not normal for this time of year, i dont know how many times i heard people say recently, we have never seen
it this bad, even during last winter, which hit some quiet hard.

so things seem to be a changing? johnny
It was -2'C I've seen colder, and I'm not that old so what there was a cold snap and some snow it's nearly completely melted where I am and honestly It's been quite mild now. It wasn't that bad it's just that the UK time and time again fails to prepair for weather conditions. Western Europe just grossly underestimates how dangerous cold weather is it's not that it's getting colder. infact measurments imply that theres a general up-trend in temperatures in the 1920's there was sea ice on the Thames it's not even close for that.
 
so you disagree with what the experts are saying, europe could see the coldest winter for a thousand years.

plus you dont see any thing out of the normal happening around the globe, Volcanos, earth quakes, storms, floods, heat, ect.

all business as normal. some might disagree. people talk of the writting on the wall, signs of the times.

what are you seeing, ? many people are asking what does all this mean, but for some of you, you dont see any thing, strange.
Why are they seeing it, and asking, and you see nothing, johnny
 
so you disagree with what the experts are saying, europe could see the coldest winter for a thousand years.

plus you dont see any thing out of the normal happening around the globe, Volcanos, earth quakes, storms, floods, heat, ect.

all business as normal. some might disagree. people talk of the writting on the wall, signs of the times.

what are you seeing, ? many people are asking what does all this mean, but for some of you, you dont see any thing, strange.
Why are they seeing it, and asking, and you see nothing, johnny

no, i'm pragmatic. i dont go looking for the end of the world.

trust me if the devil wants to find me , he already knows any christian whose living the life.
 
Why does God send signs, ? on the earth, ? in the heavens. ? why did God send the prophets?

why did Jesus tell us about the signs of the times, ? what were they indicating. ?

why did people repent went Jonah, shared impending destrustion was at the door, ?

why did people return to the Lord.

why does God send judgements, does he warn these judgements are coming. ?

johnny
 
Johnny, you will find very few, if any rational and sane adults that still believe the sun revolves around the Earth. But orbiting around the center of our galaxy, yes, as all the other stars, planets, and everything else in our galaxy ultimately does.

have you ever first hand witnessed this manifesto ?

Strangelove is sane and believes the earth is stationary...

and I believe that he is saved

is an unsane person a fool?

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just asking

you said not many

to believe anything takes faith...

sorry if i came off rude
 
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