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The Evil Of Islam

Lewis

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Lewis W said:
ISLAM IS “EVIL IN THE NAME OF GOD”

http://godofreason.com/

Dawkins: Islam is 'one of the great evils in the world

http://freethoughtnation.com/contri...m-is-one-of-the-great-evils-of-the-world.html

[BOperation YouTube "Islamism" Smackdown[/B]

http://operationyoutubeislamistsmac...3/21/lets-call-a-spade-a-spade-islam-is-evil/

Evil Islam & Evil Muslims ! Muslim means a believer in Evil Islam !

[video=youtube;Kag6CL_67Y8]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Kag6CL_67Y8[/video]
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Islam is a religion of fear What at is amazing is that this fear is translated into violence by those who believe that their way is the only way. This is nothing more than religious bullying.

Can you imagine if a person in civil society who is being ridiculed for his religion, killing and maiming those who disagree. What would happen to our society if this should occur. Even those muslims who are peace loving, this fear still dominiates their lives, since they cannot or are unwilling to come out in the open and condemn these violent acts.

The classic example is the killing of the US ambassador in Libya. These fanatics seem to think that if an individual say something negative about Mohammed whether it be a film or verbally he should be killed or those who are members from the same country should be killed.

Salmon Rushdie a Muslim who wrote about Islam is still in hiding today. These people believe that terror and violence is their badge of honour. ironically the situation in Syria is not getting any better but yet these radicals don't see this as a problem that they need to deal with.

The West must not allow these criminals to take their civil society hostage.

There are people who are unwilling to see radical islam for what it is. Even some Christians want to place their
heads in the sand like the proverbial ostrich.

Thanks for posting Lewis.
 
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abide said:
Islam is a religion of fear What at is amazing is that this fear is translated into violence by those who believe that their way is the only way. This is nothing more than religious bullying.

Can you imagine if a person in civil society who is being ridiculed for his religion, killing and maiming those who disagree. What would happen to our society if this should occur. Even those muslims who are peace loving, this fear still dominiates their lives, since they cannot or are unwilling to come out in the open and condemn these violent acts.

The classic example is the killing of the US ambassador in Libya. These fanatics seem to think that if an individual say something negative about Mohammed whether it be a film or verbally he should be killed or those who are members from the same country should be killed.

Salmon Rushdie a Muslim who wrote about Islam is still in hiding today. These people believe that terror and violence is their badge of honour. ironically the situation in Syria is not getting any better but yet these radicals don't see this as a problem that they need to deal with.

The West must not allow these criminals to take their civil society hostage.

There are people who are unwilling to see radical islam for what it is. Even some Christians want to place their
heads in the sand like the proverbial ostrich.

Thanks for posting Lewis.
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I don't think those attacks in Libya were motivated by a movie. They were far too coordinated and professionally carried out. Those attacks had been planned in advance as a response to our continued killing of Al Qaeda leaders. Protest of a silly movie just provided the chaos and cover the attacks needed.

We need to stop denying the truth about Islam. There is nothing tolerant nor peaceful about it, it's violent and evil. We're in for a long fight against a committed enemy who does not share our values. We need to stop being surprised when they don't behave the way we think a civilized people should behave.
 
mark said:
We need to stop denying the truth about Islam. There is nothing tolerant nor peaceful about it, it's violent and evil. We're in for a long fight against a committed enemy who does not share our values. We need to stop being surprised when they don't behave the way we think a civilized people should behave.
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Just as there are variances in fervor and interpretation among Christians, so there are among Muslims. Just as the media doesn't go out of its way to make Lutherans or Episcopalians look bad but turn their cameras on "off the wall" Baptists and Catholics who actually make noise about the haste with which America is abandoning her Christian roots, so the media doesn't go out to find the peaceful Muslims but turns its cameras on the radicals. Just as the media doesn't do thorough investigation of the differences between snake handlers and mainstream Southern Baptists, the media doesn't do thorough investigation of the differences between Shi'ite Muslims and Bahai'ism Muslims (most people don't even know that Bahai'is are Muslim, so its a certainty the media doesn't know that).

Nonetheless, radical Islam kills. Radical Christians can take many forms and viewpoints, but they don't kill one another over, say, the KJV Only debate, or over whether Jesus is God or not.

Radical Islam has been abrogated by terrorists who use it to inspire innocent young men to strap bombs to their body or drive mobile bombs into an embassy compound, all for the purpose of detonation. Meanwhile the masterminds sit back in their caves and hideaways, making their evil plans and staying safe from detection and elimination. They send boys to do a job they would reject as insanity if asked to perform the duties themselves.

What we see going on in the Mideast this week is exactly what happened in 1979, and we have a president who is either equally as ignorant of motivation behind the demonstrations as was the miserable excuse of a president in office then; or we have a president who is duplicitous in his agenda and his seeming non-action while actually encouraging that agenda, which is to withdraw from the world and destroy America's prestige and power. These demonstrations, and indeed the entire "Arab Spring," has absolutely nothing to do with a desire to turn the Mideast into carbon copies of Switzerland. The objective of those who are actively demonstrating this week have stolen the promise of Arab Spring from the intellectual moderates who undertook that brave effort and turned it into a mindless, ignorant demonization of the US as a whole.

We need to wake up and realize what is happening, or it is going to destroy us, and the world.
 
Greetings brothers and sisters didn't Mohammed say that god said to kill all who don't believe in Islam which would be everybody but Muslims am I co

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rayhodge02 said:
Greetings brothers and sisters didn't Mohammed say that god said to kill all who don't believe in Islam which would be everybody but Muslims am I co

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I'm sure he did. The problem with the Qur'an is that it isn't inspired, like the Bible. So there are roughly fifty (if not more) versions of the alleged "writings of the 'prophet' " floating around in the world today, and they disagree with each other in a lot of aspects, hence there are so many widely varying interpretations and so many widely varying attitudes among the sects of Islam.
 
thisnumbersdisconnected said:
Just as there are variances in fervor and interpretation among Christians, so there are among Muslims. Just as the media doesn't go out of its way to make Lutherans or Episcopalians look bad but turn their cameras on "off the wall" Baptists and Catholics who actually make noise about the haste with which America is abandoning her Christian roots, so the media doesn't go out to find the peaceful Muslims but turns its cameras on the radicals. Just as the media doesn't do thorough investigation of the differences between snake handlers and mainstream Southern Baptists, the media doesn't do thorough investigation of the differences between Shi'ite Muslims and Bahai'ism Muslims (most people don't even know that Bahai'is are Muslim, so its a certainty the media doesn't know that). [/QUOTE]

I agree, and I do not think it is at all helpful to talk about "evil Islam". This is the kind of rhetoric that engenders the hate that we are presumably trying to reduce.

Yes, let's have the conversation about the content of Islamic doctrine. But let's be very careful to not focus on one particular "sub-set" of Muslims and treat them as though they represented the entire spectrum of Islamic belief.
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thisnumbersdisconnected said:
I'm sure he did. The problem with the Qur'an is that it isn't inspired, like the Bible. So there are roughly fifty (if not more) versions of the alleged "writings of the 'prophet' " floating around in the world today, and they disagree with each other in a lot of aspects, hence there are so many widely varying interpretations and so many widely varying attitudes among the sects of Islam.
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The inspired word of God states that Satan is the author of confusion:wave
 
thisnumbersdisconnected said:
Nonetheless, radical Islam kills. Radical Christians can take many forms and viewpoints, but they don't kill one another over, say, the KJV Only debate, or over whether Jesus is God or not.

We need to wake up and realize what is happening, or it is going to destroy us, and the world.
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Authorized King James only is a debate. Whether Jesus is God or not is not debatable.
Most of us can agree that people who read different versions of the Bible can still be Christians. But many of us do not believe that people are genuine Christians if they deny the divinity of Christ or that the total Bible is God's inspired Word.
1 John 4:2-3, Philipeans 2:5-6, 2 Tim. 3:16 True we don't kill unblievers. Neither do we believe that people who deny the divinity of Christ will inherit eternal life unless they repent. We might even go so far as to believe that radicals who have departed from the fundamental beliefs about who Jesus is are cultists (whether they are Mormon, Jehovah's Witnesses, Unitarian, or "liberals"). Even muslims believe that Jesus was a good man and a prophet!
 
Paul had to say it twice, that is how important this is.
Galatians chapter 1 King James Version


8 But though we, or an angel from heaven, preach any other gospel unto you than that which we have preached unto you, let him be accursed.

9 As we said before, so say I now again, If any man preach any other gospel unto you than that ye have received, let him be accursed.
 
Lewis W said:
Paul had to say it twice, that is how important this is.
Galatians chapter 1 King James Version


8 But though we, or an angel from heaven, preach any other gospel unto you than that which we have preached unto you, let him be accursed.

9 As we said before, so say I now again, If any man preach any other gospel unto you than that ye have received, let him be accursed.
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The problem with this is, I suggest, that it gives licence to those who wish to express bigotry. I am not talking about you, Lewis, I am speaking more generally

And that is a big problem in the church: we have people who clearly harbour all sorts of hateful, bigoted thoughts who then latch on to texts like this and use them to justify their unhealthy ideas.

Look: Given the broad scope of Scripture, I suggest it is reasonable to suggest that Paul is engaging in a little overstatement for emphasis.

Given Paul's belief in the gospel, and the gospel teaching to love one's enemies, it stretches credulity to imagine that Paul really wants anyone to be "accursed".
 
Drew said:
thisnumbersdisconnected said:
Just as there are variances in fervor and interpretation among Christians, so there are among Muslims. Just as the media doesn't go out of its way to make Lutherans or Episcopalians look bad but turn their cameras on "off the wall" Baptists and Catholics who actually make noise about the haste with which America is abandoning her Christian roots, so the media doesn't go out to find the peaceful Muslims but turns its cameras on the radicals. Just as the media doesn't do thorough investigation of the differences between snake handlers and mainstream Southern Baptists, the media doesn't do thorough investigation of the differences between Shi'ite Muslims and Bahai'ism Muslims (most people don't even know that Bahai'is are Muslim, so its a certainty the media doesn't know that). [/QUOTE]

I agree, and I do not think it is at all helpful to talk about "evil Islam". This is the kind of rhetoric that engenders the hate that we are presumably trying to reduce.

Yes, let's have the conversation about the content of Islamic doctrine. But let's be very careful to not focus on one particular "sub-set" of Muslims and treat them as though they represented the entire spectrum of Islamic belief.
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if islam is so peaceful. unlike christianity which abstained from war or the art of it in rome for centuries save for three centuries. islam immediately began congquering the world and lands near them. did the early muslim get mohammed's wrong? i know only of two muslims that say its about peace. one of them i believe the other know only from a forum.

yes their are peaceful muslims. but if we cant them that practice and endorse murdering of their wives for some non-biblical code which god says one isnt to do, even in the torah the congregation not the husband alone did the deed with a judgement, or marrying girls under 9 or under 13 evil. lets close the bible and all churches.
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Drew said:
The problem with this is, I suggest, that it gives licence to those who wish to express bigotry. I am not talking about you, Lewis, I am speaking more generally

And that is a big problem in the church: we have people who clearly harbour all sorts of hateful, bigoted thoughts who then latch on to texts like this and use them to justify their unhealthy ideas.

Look: Given the broad scope of Scripture, I suggest it is reasonable to suggest that Paul is engaging in a little overstatement for emphasis.

Given Paul's belief in the gospel, and the gospel teaching to love one's enemies, it stretches credulity to imagine that Paul really wants anyone to be "accursed".
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What is your definition of bigotry. Is calling evil bigotry.

Isaiah 5:20 Woe to those who call evil good and good evil. The point is that for too long people have been been pandering to Islam. They hate Christians and they kill those who convert from Islam to Christianity. You don't see Christians doing this. Peace is part of the Christian's experience and in Hebrews 12:14 Follow peace with all men, and holiness, without which no man shall see the Lord. This is what Christians believe and which is the opposite of what Muslims believe. Only today an Iman asked Muslims to go out and kill.
The Muslims do not know peace. They will attend the mosque on Friday and and after that go demonstrate, burn flags etc.. Is this a religion of peace...Their religion is a religion of hatred and violence and a farce, and all of the politically correct statements will not change this. It does not make sense trying to live in denial.
 
Former U.N. Humanitarian Coordinator in Iraq Denis Halliday: "Two hundred thirty-nine thousand children 5 years old and under" died as of 1998, as a result of US sanctions against Iraq.

"Richard Garfield, a Columbia University nursing professor ... cited the figures 345,000-530,000 for the entire 1990-2002 period" for sanctions-related excess deaths.

Imagine watching your child die due to contaminated water due to US-enforced ban on chemicals to purify the water and a ban on antibiotics to treat the resulting infection. It's not rational to make war against someone and then act shocked when they fight back.

"Why are we fighting and opposing you? The answer is very simple: Because you attacked us and continue to attack us." Osama Bin Laden.
 
Hammer said:
Former U.N. Humanitarian Coordinator in Iraq Denis Halliday: "Two hundred thirty-nine thousand children 5 years old and under" died as of 1998, as a result of US sanctions against Iraq.

"Richard Garfield, a Columbia University nursing professor ... cited the figures 345,000-530,000 for the entire 1990-2002 period" for sanctions-related excess deaths.

Imagine watching your child die due to contaminated water due to US-enforced ban on chemicals to purify the water and a ban on antibiotics to treat the resulting infection. It's not rational to make war against someone and then act shocked when they fight back.

"Why are we fighting and opposing you? The answer is very simple: Because you attacked us and continue to attack us." Osama Bin Laden.
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What is your point Hammer?:confused: For fifty years the USA placed sanctions on Cuba.. This is a very simplistic way of looking at this issue.
 
abide said:
What is your point Hammer?:confused: For fifty years the USA placed sanctions on Cuba.. This is a very simplistic way of looking at this issue.
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Cuban sanctions never had much teeth beyond banning trade/travel between Cuba and the US. Sanctions never caused the suffering in Cuba that they caused in Iraq. Also, the example of sanctions in Iraq is just one of many examples of the Arab/Muslim people believing the US is abusing them.

Remember the Cold War? There was a lot of fighting back then and the Communists were militarily aggressive.
 
Hammer said:
Former U.N. Humanitarian Coordinator in Iraq Denis Halliday: "Two hundred thirty-nine thousand children 5 years old and under" died as of 1998, as a result of US sanctions against Iraq.

"Richard Garfield, a Columbia University nursing professor ... cited the figures 345,000-530,000 for the entire 1990-2002 period" for sanctions-related excess deaths.

Imagine watching your child die due to contaminated water due to US-enforced ban on chemicals to purify the water and a ban on antibiotics to treat the resulting infection. It's not rational to make war against someone and then act shocked when they fight back.

"Why are we fighting and opposing you? The answer is very simple: Because you attacked us and continue to attack us." Osama Bin Laden.
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who said that? did you know most men in the services expected iraq to do what it is doing! we knew and likely told the president. sir, if we leave they will go south. so we should trade with murders. just ignored the shoah and also slavery in the past and just make money. NOT then expect god to bless the christian who would deal with them?
 
jasoncran said:
who said that? did you know most men in the services expected iraq to do what it is doing! we knew and likely told the president. sir, if we leave they will go south. so we should trade with murders. just ignored the shoah and also slavery in the past and just make money. NOT then expect god to bless the christian who would deal with them?
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I don't follow what you're saying. Most men in Iraq expected Iraq to do what? Shoah? Slavery? What do those have to do with Iraq, especially Iraq vs. the US?
 
Drew said:
The problem with this is, I suggest, that it gives licence to those who wish to express bigotry. I am not talking about you, Lewis, I am speaking more generally

And that is a big problem in the church: we have people who clearly harbour all sorts of hateful, bigoted thoughts who then latch on to texts like this and use them to justify their unhealthy ideas.

Look: Given the broad scope of Scripture, I suggest it is reasonable to suggest that Paul is engaging in a little overstatement for emphasis.

Given Paul's belief in the gospel, and the gospel teaching to love one's enemies, it stretches credulity to imagine that Paul really wants anyone to be "accursed".
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Drew, Drew, Drew. Drew, good to see ya dude. Drew these people operate under another spirit, and I am around them enough to know.
 
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