The Gentiles coming occupation of Jerusalem

[Shilohsfoal]

It's only when we truly learn who the beast out of the sea and out of the earth are that we will know who mystery Babylon is that has always persecuted God's people and continue to do so until the return of Christ. Jerusalem will never be called the faithful city until the New Jerusalem is ushered down from heaven, Rev 21:1-3.

Can you show anywhere in scripture where God says anyone other than Israel's leaders shall cause the death of his saints?

 

[Shilohsfoal]

It's only when we truly learn who the beast out of the sea and out of the earth are that we will know who mystery Babylon is that has always persecuted God's people and continue to do so until the return of Christ. Jerusalem will never be called the faithful city until the New Jerusalem is ushered down from heaven, Rev 21:1-3.

Revelation 12:4 - The Woman and the Dragon

His tail swept a third of the stars from the sky, tossing them to the earth. And the dragon stood before the woman who was about to give birth, ready to devour her child as soon as she gave birth.

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Who tryed to kill Christ as soon as he was born?

 

[for_his_glory]

The one who tried to kill the baby Jesus was King Herod "Herod the Great" (circa 74 to 4BC). He was the king of Judea at that time who ruled the territory under heavy Roman influence. He was a Jew, but not under Jewish leadership. Israel was under Roman rule at that time.

Rev 12:1-6

John is shown a great sign in heaven as he sees a vision of a woman clothed with the sun and the moon under her feet. The sun is representative of the glory and brilliance of Gods righteousness that surrounds her and protects her. Under her feet the moon which is illustrative of eternity, light, Gods faithfulness in His Son Jesus who is the greater light of the gospel age as Jesus being the light of the world that shines in darkness, but the darkness can not comprehend the light, Psalms 72:5-7; Isaiah 2:3-5; Jeremiah 31:35-37; Isaiah 30:26-33; John 1:1-5.

The woman is symbolic of Israel and the congregation of Gods people as she wears a crown of twelve stars which represents the twelve tribes of Israel that have repented of their arrogance as they felt they deserved Gods favor, but yet kept killing the prophets God sent to them, including the very Messiah they were waiting for. This is when the times of the Gentiles began as God went to them to take Himself a people that were humbled enough to receive salvation as God had mercy on them, Matthew 23:37-39; Acts 15:14; Romans 11:25-27.

Paul also warned the Gentiles against being lifted up in pride because they had been favored by God with salvation as he explained the blindness of Israel would not last forever as when they see the Gentiles now having favor in the Lord and being grafted into the branch of Israel they repent of their sin and turn back to God being once again found in His favor, Romans Chapter 11.

The true congregation of God can be symbolized here as a mother that has all here children gathered in one place for safety which in this case is under the wings of the almighty God, Psalms 91. She cries out like a woman in labor as the pain of her persecutions has become too great to bear as she waits to be delivered from her persecutors, 2 Timothy 4:18; 2 Peter 2:9; Colossians 1:13.​

 

[Shilohsfoal]

The one who tried to kill the baby Jesus was King Herod "Herod the Great" (circa 74 to 4BC). He was the king of Judea at that time who ruled the territory under heavy Roman influence. He was a Jew, but not under Jewish leadership. Israel was under Roman rule at that time.

Rev 12:1-6

John is shown a great sign in heaven as he sees a vision of a woman clothed with the sun and the moon under her feet. The sun is representative of the glory and brilliance of Gods righteousness that surrounds her and protects her. Under her feet the moon which is illustrative of eternity, light, Gods faithfulness in His Son Jesus who is the greater light of the gospel age as Jesus being the light of the world that shines in darkness, but the darkness can not comprehend the light, Psalms 72:5-7; Isaiah 2:3-5; Jeremiah 31:35-37; Isaiah 30:26-33; John 1:1-5.

The woman is symbolic of Israel and the congregation of Gods people as she wears a crown of twelve stars which represents the twelve tribes of Israel that have repented of their arrogance as they felt they deserved Gods favor, but yet kept killing the prophets God sent to them, including the very Messiah they were waiting for. This is when the times of the Gentiles began as God went to them to take Himself a people that were humbled enough to receive salvation as God had mercy on them, Matthew 23:37-39; Acts 15:14; Romans 11:25-27.

Paul also warned the Gentiles against being lifted up in pride because they had been favored by God with salvation as he explained the blindness of Israel would not last forever as when they see the Gentiles now having favor in the Lord and being grafted into the branch of Israel they repent of their sin and turn back to God being once again found in His favor, Romans Chapter 11.

The true congregation of God can be symbolized here as a mother that has all here children gathered in one place for safety which in this case is under the wings of the almighty God, Psalms 91. She cries out like a woman in labor as the pain of her persecutions has become too great to bear as she waits to be delivered from her persecutors, 2 Timothy 4:18; 2 Peter 2:9; Colossians 1:13.​

Herod was king of Israel. Leader of the Jewish people. He was very paranoid that someone would attempt to take his position. He killed some of his own family members for this reason. For this reason he wanted to kill Jesus as well.
Israel's religious leaders wanted Christ killed after he was older. It was because all the people started following Jesus and they felt thier positions were in jeopardy.
It was always the leaders of Israel who attempted or eventually had him killed for thier own ambitions. For thier own power.

Matthew 10:23 - Sheep among Wolves

When they persecute you in one town, flee to the next. Truly I tell you, you will not reach all the towns of Israel before the Son of Man comes.

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During the tribulation, when Israel's saints are persecuted throughout Israel for preaching the gospel, it will be the Israeli government that passes the antimissionary laws that cause them to be imprisoned and killed.They will be brought before and judged by thier own people for doing what Jesus told them to do.

 

[for_his_glory]

We have different understandings of who the son of perdition is that will take a literal seat in Jerusalem as he reigns for 3 1/2 years after the sounding of the seventh trumpet and who Christ when He returns on the last day will destroy both the beast and this false prophet casting them both alive into the lake of fire and all those in leadership will Christ slain with the words He speaks, 2 Thessalonians 2:1-12, Rev 13, 17, 18, 19:11-21.

 

[Shilohsfoal]

We have different understandings of who the son of perdition is that will take a literal seat in Jerusalem as he reigns for 3 1/2 years after the sounding of the seventh trumpet and who Christ when He returns on the last day will destroy both the beast and this false prophet casting them both alive into the lake of fire and all those in leadership will Christ slain with the words He speaks, 2 Thessalonians 2:1-12, Rev 13, 17, 18, 19:11-21.

It is Christ who sits on the throne in Jerusalem after the seventh trump.

Zechariah 14:9 - The Destroyers of Jerusalem Destroyed

On that day the LORD will become King over all the earth--the LORD alone, and His name alone.

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[Shilohsfoal]

We have different understandings of who the son of perdition is that will take a literal seat in Jerusalem as he reigns for 3 1/2 years after the sounding of the seventh trumpet and who Christ when He returns on the last day will destroy both the beast and this false prophet casting them both alive into the lake of fire and all those in leadership will Christ slain with the words He speaks, 2 Thessalonians 2:1-12, Rev 13, 17, 18, 19:11-21.

Revelation 11:15 - The Seventh Trumpet

Then the seventh angel sounded his trumpet, and loud voices called out in heaven: The kingdom of the world has become the kingdom of our Lord and of His Christ, and He will reign forever and ever.

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It is at the sound of the seventh trump that the Lord takes the kingdom and reigns over the earth.
The son of perdition is killed when the Lord comes.
The Israeli government will no longer exist after this. The Lord will be king.

 

[dianegcook]

Revelation 11:2 KJV: But the court which is without the temple leave out, and measure it not; for it is given unto the Gentiles: and the holy city shall they tread under foot forty and two months.

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It is written of the gentiles occupation of Jerusalem, that it will last 42 months.

Has anyone considered who these Gentiles are?
Why the Israeli government has given these Gentiles the ability to occupy Jerusalem without conflict?
What nationality these Gentiles are(where are they from) ?
And what religion do these Gentiles claim to be of, if any(Christian, Muslim, hindu, ect)?

Scripture answers all of these questions but how many people actually pay enough attention to scripture, for scripture to instruct you?

Daniel 12:4 NIV: But you, Daniel, roll up and seal the words of the scroll until the time of the end. Many will go here and there to increase knowledge."

Go back and forth through the scriptures and your knowledge will increase.

What I get out of it is,

The Dome of the Rock is occupied by the gentiles now, but..
The so called antichrist, will sit in the temple of God claiming to be God for 42 months.
2Thess.2:4

These Gentiles, nations, could be all people from all over the world, that are DECEIVED, including Christians.

This is the Harlot...The deceived Christians, that were suppose to remain a virgin bride (spiritually.)

 

[dianegcook]

What I get out of it is,

The Dome of the Rock is occupied by the gentiles now, but..
The so called antichrist, will sit in the temple of God claiming to be God for 42 months.
2Thess.2:4

These Gentiles, nations, could be all people from all over the world, that are DECEIVED, including Christians.

This is the Harlot...The deceived Christians, that were suppose to remain a virgin bride (spiritually.)

Also wanted to add:
The Rod...
Measuring people, Rev.11:1:1
..and them that worship therein....
For the rod of correction..

1Cor.4:21
..shall I come unto you with a rod?...

Rev.2:27
Shall rule them with a rod of iron...
Rev.12:5
Who was to rule all nations with a rod of iron...
Rev.19:15
He shall rule them with a rod of iron, and He treadeth the winepress of the fierceness and WRATH of Almighty God..

 

[for_his_glory]

It is Christ who sits on the throne in Jerusalem after the seventh trump.

Zechariah 14:9 - The Destroyers of Jerusalem Destroyed

On that day the LORD will become King over all the earth--the LORD alone, and His name alone.

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At the sounding of the seventh trumpet Christ does not return to the earth until after the 3 1/2 year reign of the son of perdition who is the one who literally takes his seat (throne) in Jerusalem. This takes place on the very Temple Mount of God where the Dome of the Rock sits and is even now being refurbished for this beast out of the earth in whom the beast out of the sea gives him his power to reign here on earth persecuting those who are God's own causing many of them to die a martyr's death, Matthew 24:29-31; 1 Thessalonians 4:13-18; 2 Thessalonians 2:1-12; Rev 6:9-11, Rev 13; 19:11-21. (The beast/son of perdition is not a Muslim as many think he is)

Rev 11:16 And the four and twenty elders, which sat before God on their seats, fell upon their faces, and worshipped God,
Rev 11:17 Saying, We give thee thanks, O Lord God Almighty, which art, and wast, and art to come; because thou hast taken to thee thy great power, and hast reigned.
Rev 11:18 And the nations were angry, and thy wrath is come, and the time of the dead, that they should be judged, and that thou shouldest give reward unto thy servants the prophets, and to the saints, and them that fear thy name, small and great; and shouldest destroy them which destroy the earth.
Rev 11:19 And the temple of God was opened in heaven, and there was seen in his temple the ark of his testament: and there were lightnings, and voices, and thunderings, and an earthquake, and great hail.

Here we see much rejoicing in heaven for the time is now that the mystery of God will be finished as he declared this to the prophets, Revelation 10:7. God will make an end to all sinful abominations here on earth against His people as His mighty power will reign as now the blood of the martyred saints will be avenged. God is about to destroy the enemy for eternity and all the kingdoms or nations of the world will now have become the Kingdoms and nations of God and no man will ever be able to take them out of Gods hands again, John 10:27, 28. The time of Gods longsuffering in His patience for those who need to repent, 2 Peter 3:9, has now come to an end and all glory and honor is given to His name.

The nations are angry because of Gods wrath that torments them day and night as it is a mystery to those Pharisee types that think themselves pious as they follow false religions and beliefs, even making themselves gods and have caused others to stray away from truth. All they see is Gods chastisements, but neglect seeing the warning of them to repent. The ignorance of these people is what will cause them to perish as they stand before God in judgment, Hosea 4:6, 7.

The reward unto the servants of God is that of being delivered from all the persecutions against them, those alive and asleep in the grave as when the temple is opened in heaven the ark of the covenant is seen as this is Gods covenant promise of His blessings to those who have been faithful to Him as being part of the covenant God made with Abraham and every generation after him, Genesis 12:1-3. The covenant promise is now to be fulfilled in that all Gods faithful children will have eternal life with Him as He completes the final purification of heaven and earth in order to usher down the New Jerusalem where we will be with the Lord forever.

Lightning is a strong force of power as in Gods power in heaven. The thunder is the voice of Gods power when He speaks. When God speaks even the earth quakes at His voice. The great hail is that of Gods seventh vial judgment that is about to be made on those who refuse to repent and the weight of each hail stone is the weight of a talent which is around 75 pounds each, Revelation 16:21.











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[for_his_glory]

What I get out of it is,

The Dome of the Rock is occupied by the gentiles now, but..
The so called antichrist, will sit in the temple of God claiming to be God for 42 months.
2Thess.2:4

These Gentiles, nations, could be all people from all over the world, that are DECEIVED, including Christians.

This is the Harlot...The deceived Christians, that were suppose to remain a virgin bride (spiritually.)

It's good to see you back as I have missed you

 

[dianegcook]

It's good to see you back as I have missed you

Awwww, good to be missed, lol.
Just checking in to see if you and others are keeping it real.

Love and peace to you..

 

[Shilohsfoal]

At the sounding of the seventh trumpet Christ does not return to the earth until after the 3 1/2 year reign of the son of perdition who is the one who literally takes his seat (throne) in Jerusalem. This takes place on the very Temple Mount of God where the Dome of the Rock sits and is even now being refurbished for this beast out of the earth in whom the beast out of the sea gives him his power to reign here on earth persecuting those who are God's own causing many of them to die a martyr's death, Matthew 24:29-31; 1 Thessalonians 4:13-18; 2 Thessalonians 2:1-12; Rev 6:9-11, Rev 13; 19:11-21. (The beast/son of perdition is not a Muslim as many think he is)

Rev 11:16 And the four and twenty elders, which sat before God on their seats, fell upon their faces, and worshipped God,
Rev 11:17 Saying, We give thee thanks, O Lord God Almighty, which art, and wast, and art to come; because thou hast taken to thee thy great power, and hast reigned.
Rev 11:18 And the nations were angry, and thy wrath is come, and the time of the dead, that they should be judged, and that thou shouldest give reward unto thy servants the prophets, and to the saints, and them that fear thy name, small and great; and shouldest destroy them which destroy the earth.
Rev 11:19 And the temple of God was opened in heaven, and there was seen in his temple the ark of his testament: and there were lightnings, and voices, and thunderings, and an earthquake, and great hail.

Here we see much rejoicing in heaven for the time is now that the mystery of God will be finished as he declared this to the prophets, Revelation 10:7. God will make an end to all sinful abominations here on earth against His people as His mighty power will reign as now the blood of the martyred saints will be avenged. God is about to destroy the enemy for eternity and all the kingdoms or nations of the world will now have become the Kingdoms and nations of God and no man will ever be able to take them out of Gods hands again, John 10:27, 28. The time of Gods longsuffering in His patience for those who need to repent, 2 Peter 3:9, has now come to an end and all glory and honor is given to His name.

The nations are angry because of Gods wrath that torments them day and night as it is a mystery to those Pharisee types that think themselves pious as they follow false religions and beliefs, even making themselves gods and have caused others to stray away from truth. All they see is Gods chastisements, but neglect seeing the warning of them to repent. The ignorance of these people is what will cause them to perish as they stand before God in judgment, Hosea 4:6, 7.

The reward unto the servants of God is that of being delivered from all the persecutions against them, those alive and asleep in the grave as when the temple is opened in heaven the ark of the covenant is seen as this is Gods covenant promise of His blessings to those who have been faithful to Him as being part of the covenant God made with Abraham and every generation after him, Genesis 12:1-3. The covenant promise is now to be fulfilled in that all Gods faithful children will have eternal life with Him as He completes the final purification of heaven and earth in order to usher down the New Jerusalem where we will be with the Lord forever.

Lightning is a strong force of power as in Gods power in heaven. The thunder is the voice of Gods power when He speaks. When God speaks even the earth quakes at His voice. The great hail is that of Gods seventh vial judgment that is about to be made on those who refuse to repent and the weight of each hail stone is the weight of a talent which is around 75 pounds each, Revelation 16:21.











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Revelation 11:15 - The Seventh Trumpet

Then the seventh angel sounded his trumpet, and loud voices called out in heaven: The kingdom of the world has become the kingdom of our Lord and of His Christ, and He will reign forever and ever.

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What about this can you not comprehend?
At the sound of the seventh Trump the kingdom of this world (which includes Jerusalem) becomes Christ's and he reigns forever.

Christ's reign upon earth begins at the sound of the seventh trump, not three years after the seventh trump.

 

[for_his_glory]

Awwww, good to be missed, lol.
Just checking in to see if you and others are keeping it real.

Love and peace to you..

you know me, always keeping it real LOL

 

[for_his_glory]

Revelation 11:15 - The Seventh Trumpet

Then the seventh angel sounded his trumpet, and loud voices called out in heaven: The kingdom of the world has become the kingdom of our Lord and of His Christ, and He will reign forever and ever.

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What about this can you not comprehend?
At the sound of the seventh Trump the kingdom of this world (which includes Jerusalem) becomes Christ's and he reigns forever.

Christ's reign upon earth begins at the sound of the seventh trump, not three years after the seventh trump.

Where does it say book, chapter and verse that Jesus literally sits on a throne in Jerusalem before the 3 1/2 years reign of the son of perdition?

I gave you the scriptures to read that states Christ returns on the last day and then we are gathered up to the clouds to meet Him in the air as we will then reign with Him forever.

2 Thessalonians 2:1 Now we beseech you, brethren, by the coming of our Lord Jesus Christ, and by our gathering together unto him,
2 Thessalonians 2:2 That ye be not soon shaken in mind, or be troubled, neither by spirit, nor by word, nor by letter as from us, as that the day of Christ is at hand.
2 Thessalonians2:3 Let no man deceive you by any means: for that day shall not come, except there come a falling away first, and that man of sin be revealed, the son of perdition;
2 Thessalonians 2:4 Who opposeth and exalteth himself above all that is called God, or that is worshipped; so that he as God sitteth in the temple of God, shewing himself that he is God.
2 Thessalonians 2:5 Remember ye not, that, when I was yet with you, I told you these things?
2 Thessalonians 2:6 And now ye know what withholdeth that he might be revealed in his time.
2 Thessalonians 2:7 For the mystery of iniquity doth already work: only he who now letteth will let, until he be taken out of the way.
2 Thessalonians 2:8 And then shall that Wicked be revealed, whom the Lord shall consume with the spirit of his mouth, and shall destroy with the brightness of his coming:
2 Thessalonians 2:9 Even him, whose coming is after the working of Satan with all power and signs and lying wonders,
2 Thessalonians 2:10 And with all deceivableness of unrighteousness in them that perish; because they received not the love of the truth, that they might be saved.
2 Thessalonians 2:11 And for this cause God shall send them strong delusion, that they should believe a lie:
2 Thessalonians 2:12 That they all might be damned who believed not the truth, but had pleasure in unrighteousness.

Matthew 24:29 Immediately after the tribulation of those days shall the sun be darkened, and the moon shall not give her light, and the stars shall fall from heaven, and the powers of the heavens shall be shaken:
Matthew 24:30 And then shall appear the sign of the Son of man in heaven: and then shall all the tribes of the earth mourn, and they shall see the Son of man coming in the clouds of heaven with power and great glory.
Matthew 24:31 And he shall send his angels with a great sound of a trumpet, and they shall gather together his elect from the four winds, from one end of heaven to the other.

How can anyone refute these scriptures that state Christ returns after the seventh trumpet is sounded, 3 1/2 years after the reign of the son of perdition being the last antichrist. For then shall be great tribulation, such as was not since the beginning of the world to this time, no, nor ever shall be. Matthew 24:15-21.

 

[Shilohsfoal]

Where does it say book, chapter and verse that Jesus literally sits on a throne in Jerusalem before the 3 1/2 years reign of the son of perdition?

I gave you the scriptures to read that states Christ returns on the last day and then we are gathered up to the clouds to meet Him in the air as we will then reign with Him forever.

2 Thessalonians 2:1 Now we beseech you, brethren, by the coming of our Lord Jesus Christ, and by our gathering together unto him,
2 Thessalonians 2:2 That ye be not soon shaken in mind, or be troubled, neither by spirit, nor by word, nor by letter as from us, as that the day of Christ is at hand.
2 Thessalonians2:3 Let no man deceive you by any means: for that day shall not come, except there come a falling away first, and that man of sin be revealed, the son of perdition;
2 Thessalonians 2:4 Who opposeth and exalteth himself above all that is called God, or that is worshipped; so that he as God sitteth in the temple of God, shewing himself that he is God.
2 Thessalonians 2:5 Remember ye not, that, when I was yet with you, I told you these things?
2 Thessalonians 2:6 And now ye know what withholdeth that he might be revealed in his time.
2 Thessalonians 2:7 For the mystery of iniquity doth already work: only he who now letteth will let, until he be taken out of the way.
2 Thessalonians 2:8 And then shall that Wicked be revealed, whom the Lord shall consume with the spirit of his mouth, and shall destroy with the brightness of his coming:
2 Thessalonians 2:9 Even him, whose coming is after the working of Satan with all power and signs and lying wonders,
2 Thessalonians 2:10 And with all deceivableness of unrighteousness in them that perish; because they received not the love of the truth, that they might be saved.
2 Thessalonians 2:11 And for this cause God shall send them strong delusion, that they should believe a lie:
2 Thessalonians 2:12 That they all might be damned who believed not the truth, but had pleasure in unrighteousness.

Matthew 24:29 Immediately after the tribulation of those days shall the sun be darkened, and the moon shall not give her light, and the stars shall fall from heaven, and the powers of the heavens shall be shaken:
Matthew 24:30 And then shall appear the sign of the Son of man in heaven: and then shall all the tribes of the earth mourn, and they shall see the Son of man coming in the clouds of heaven with power and great glory.
Matthew 24:31 And he shall send his angels with a great sound of a trumpet, and they shall gather together his elect from the four winds, from one end of heaven to the other.

How can anyone refute these scriptures that state Christ returns after the seventh trumpet is sounded, 3 1/2 years after the reign of the son of perdition being the last antichrist. For then shall be great tribulation, such as was not since the beginning of the world to this time, no, nor ever shall be. Matthew 24:15-21.

Revelation 11:15 - The Seventh Trumpet

Then the seventh angel sounded his trumpet, and loud voices called out in heaven: The kingdom of the world has become the kingdom of our Lord and of His Christ, and He will reign forever and ever.

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You are the one refuting scripture.
Christ reigns at the sound of the seventh trump.
The kingdom this world becomes his at the sound of the seventh trump and he reigns.

Revelation 11:15 - The Seventh Trumpet

Then the seventh angel sounded his trumpet, and loud voices called out in heaven: The kingdom of the world has become the kingdom of our Lord and of His Christ, and He will reign forever and ever.

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He doesn't begin to reign three and a half years after the sound of the seventh trump as you claim.

And just so you know, the resurection takes place at the time the abomination of desolation is placed.
It will be a time of great tribulation, the likes of which have never been seen. At least, that's how Daniel descibes it.

Daniel 12:1 - Michael's Deliverance and the End Times

At that time Michael, the great prince who stands watch over your people, will rise up. There will be a time of distress, the likes of which will not have occurred from the beginning of nations until that time. But at that time your people--everyone whose name is found written in the book--will...

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Daniel 12:2 - Michael's Deliverance and the End Times

And many who sleep in the dust of the earth will awake, some to everlasting life, but others to shame and everlasting contempt.

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And you claim the son of perdition will reign in Jerusalem at this time when Christ raises the dead? Are you serious?

Read it carefully.
That is at the end of the 42 month occupation of the Gentiles. Not the beginning.

 

[for_his_glory]

There are over a hundred Bible verses that deal with Christ returning on the last day as I have listed a few of them below. We either believe that which has already been written or we believe man's traditional theories of Christ second coming. We could discuss this all day, but we will never agree with each other if we can not agree with that which has already been written in the Bible.

Please read what Jesus said in Matthew 24:15-31 as Jesus said the abomination of desolation happens first, "For then shall be great tribulation, such as was not since the beginning of the world to this time, no, nor ever shall be." This last abomination that Daniel prophesied of in Daniel chapter 7-9 will last 3 1/2 years and then shall appear the sign of the Son of man in heaven: and then shall all the tribes of the earth mourn, and they shall see the Son of man coming in the clouds of heaven with power and great glory.
Revelation 12:14; Daniel 7:25; Daniel 12:7
1260 days – Revelation 11:3; Revelation 12:6
42 months – Revelation 11:2; Revelation 13:5

Scriptures that speak pf the last day:
Matthew 24:29 Immediately after the tribulation of those days shall the sun be darkened, and the moon shall not give her light, and the stars shall fall from heaven, and the powers of the heavens shall be shaken:
Matthew 24:30 And then shall appear the sign of the Son of man in heaven: and then shall all the tribes of the earth mourn, and they shall see the Son of man coming in the clouds of heaven with power and great glory.
Matthew 24:31 And he shall send his angels with a great sound of a trumpet, and they shall gather together his elect from the four winds, from one end of heaven to the other.

John 5:28 Marvel not at this: for the hour is coming, in the which all that are in the graves shall hear his voice,
John 5:29 And shall come forth; they that have done good, unto the resurrection of life; and they that have done evil, unto the resurrection of damnation.

Joh 6:40 And this is the will of him that sent me, that every one which seeth the Son, and believeth on him, may have everlasting life: and I will raise him up at the last day.

1 Corinthians 15:52 In a moment, in the twinkling of an eye, at the last trump: for the trumpet shall sound, and the dead shall be raised incorruptible, and we shall be changed.

Rev 19:15 And out of his mouth goeth a sharp sword, that with it he should smite the nations: and he shall rule them with a rod of iron: and he treadeth the winepress of the fierceness and wrath of Almighty God.

Rev 19:20 And the beast was taken, and with him the false prophet that wrought miracles before him, with which he deceived them that had received the mark of the beast, and them that worshipped his image. These both were cast alive into a lake of fire burning with brimstone.

Christ returns on the last day at the seventh trumpet and on that day His Bride being the collective body of believers through faith in Christ and sealed by the Holy Spirit unto the day of redemption will be caught up to Him. Both asleep in their grave and those who are alive at His coming will then be kept safe on that day while Christ fights the final battle casting the beast and false prophet into the lake of fire and slaying all those nations (people) who come out to fight against Him.
(John 5:25-30; 6:40; Ephesians 1:3-14;1 Corinthians 15:51-57; 1 Thessalonians 4:13-18; Rev 19; Zechariah 14:1-6; Luke 21:20-22)

 

[Shilohsfoal]

There are over a hundred Bible verses that deal with Christ returning on the last day as I have listed a few of them below. We either believe that which has already been written or we believe man's traditional theories of Christ second coming. We could discuss this all day, but we will never agree with each other if we can not agree with that which has already been written in the Bible.

Please read what Jesus said in Matthew 24:15-31 as Jesus said the abomination of desolation happens first, "For then shall be great tribulation, such as was not since the beginning of the world to this time, no, nor ever shall be." This last abomination that Daniel prophesied of in Daniel chapter 7-9 will last 3 1/2 years and then shall appear the sign of the Son of man in heaven: and then shall all the tribes of the earth mourn, and they shall see the Son of man coming in the clouds of heaven with power and great glory.
Revelation 12:14; Daniel 7:25; Daniel 12:7
1260 days – Revelation 11:3; Revelation 12:6
42 months – Revelation 11:2; Revelation 13:5

Scriptures that speak pf the last day:
Matthew 24:29 Immediately after the tribulation of those days shall the sun be darkened, and the moon shall not give her light, and the stars shall fall from heaven, and the powers of the heavens shall be shaken:
Matthew 24:30 And then shall appear the sign of the Son of man in heaven: and then shall all the tribes of the earth mourn, and they shall see the Son of man coming in the clouds of heaven with power and great glory.
Matthew 24:31 And he shall send his angels with a great sound of a trumpet, and they shall gather together his elect from the four winds, from one end of heaven to the other.

John 5:28 Marvel not at this: for the hour is coming, in the which all that are in the graves shall hear his voice,
John 5:29 And shall come forth; they that have done good, unto the resurrection of life; and they that have done evil, unto the resurrection of damnation.

Joh 6:40 And this is the will of him that sent me, that every one which seeth the Son, and believeth on him, may have everlasting life: and I will raise him up at the last day.

1 Corinthians 15:52 In a moment, in the twinkling of an eye, at the last trump: for the trumpet shall sound, and the dead shall be raised incorruptible, and we shall be changed.

Rev 19:15 And out of his mouth goeth a sharp sword, that with it he should smite the nations: and he shall rule them with a rod of iron: and he treadeth the winepress of the fierceness and wrath of Almighty God.

Rev 19:20 And the beast was taken, and with him the false prophet that wrought miracles before him, with which he deceived them that had received the mark of the beast, and them that worshipped his image. These both were cast alive into a lake of fire burning with brimstone.

Christ returns on the last day at the seventh trumpet and on that day His Bride being the collective body of believers through faith in Christ and sealed by the Holy Spirit unto the day of redemption will be caught up to Him. Both asleep in their grave and those who are alive at His coming will then be kept safe on that day while Christ fights the final battle casting the beast and false prophet into the lake of fire and slaying all those nations (people) who come out to fight against Him.
(John 5:25-30; 6:40; Ephesians 1:3-14;1 Corinthians 15:51-57; 1 Thessalonians 4:13-18; Rev 19; Zechariah 14:1-6; Luke 21:20-22)

You belive the abomination of desolation lasts 42 months?
Are you crazy?

The Hiroshima bomb our armed forces placed in Hiroshima didn't last more than a few moments.
And you believe it will take the armed forces of the north 42 months to make Jerusalem desolate?

You underestimate the power the armed forces of the north has.

And according to you, Daniel must have lied.
He said this is the time of distress, the likes of which the world has never seen.

Daniel 12:1 - Michael's Deliverance and the End Times

At that time Michael, the great prince who stands watch over your people, will rise up. There will be a time of distress, the likes of which will not have occurred from the beginning of nations until that time. But at that time your people--everyone whose name is found written in the book--will...

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Study that verse carefully.
Because that is the verse Jesus was quoting.

Matthew 24:21 NIV: For then there will be great distress, unequaled from the beginning of the world until now--and never to be equaled again.

You honestly believe the son of perdition shall reign in Jerusalem after he has died?

Daniel 11:45 - The King Who Exalts Himself

He will pitch his royal tents between the sea and the beautiful holy mountain, but he will meet his end with no one to help him.

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What makes you think he will reign in Jerusalem after he has met his end?

 

[for_his_glory]

You belive the abomination of desolation lasts 42 months?
Are you crazy?

The Hiroshima bomb our armed forces placed in Hiroshima didn't last more than a few moments.
And you believe it will take the armed forces of the north 42 months to make Jerusalem desolate?

You underestimate the power the armed forces of the north has.

And according to you, Daniel must have lied.
He said this is the time of distress, the likes of which the world has never seen.

Daniel 12:1 - Michael's Deliverance and the End Times

At that time Michael, the great prince who stands watch over your people, will rise up. There will be a time of distress, the likes of which will not have occurred from the beginning of nations until that time. But at that time your people--everyone whose name is found written in the book--will...

biblehub.com

Study that verse carefully.
Because that is the verse Jesus was quoting.

Matthew 24:21 NIV: For then there will be great distress, unequaled from the beginning of the world until now--and never to be equaled again.

You honestly believe the son of perdition shall reign in Jerusalem after he has died?

Daniel 11:45 - The King Who Exalts Himself

He will pitch his royal tents between the sea and the beautiful holy mountain, but he will meet his end with no one to help him.

biblehub.com

What makes you think he will reign in Jerusalem after he has met his end?

You said in post #26 "It is Christ who sits on the throne in Jerusalem after the seventh trump."

Nowhere in scripture does it say Christ sits on a literal throne in Jerusalem, but does say the kingdoms of the world will become the kingdom of our Lord and of His Christ, and He will reign forever and ever. 2 Thessalonians 2:1-12 tells us who sits on the throne in Jerusalem for 3 1/2 years in whom Christ will destroy by the brightness of His coming on the last day when He returns, Rev 13; 19:11-21.

Rev 11:15 says "The kingdom of the world has become the kingdom of our Lord and of His Christ, and He will reign forever and ever." In other words, Jesus at that time of His second coming on the last day, Matthew 24:29-31, now fully reigns over the world forever and ever, not just Jerusalem, as all the kingdoms of this world are now fully His own as comes to destroy His enemies in final judgement. The first six trumpets of God's wrath have a beginning and an end before the next one is sounded, but the seventh trumpet is different as it has a beginning, but no end and deals with everything written from Rev 11:15 through Rev 22 with all the events that lead up to the timing of the New Jerusalem being ushered down from heaven


Rev 13 The beast rises up out of the sea as the sea here is symbolic of people and nations as in a sea of humanity, Daniel Chapter 7:1-8; Revelation 17:15. This beast is the Luciferians political, economic, educational and false religious system who gives its power and authority to the beast out of the earth who is the false prophet (son of perdition) who will cause a great falling away, but will be consumed by the spirit of the mouth of Christ when He returns, 2 Thessalonians 2:1-12; Rev 19:11-21. USA especially Washington DC was founded on this system and have always followed after the beast out of the sea.

The beast (NWO) was given a mouth speaking great things and blasphemies and power was given unto him to continue for three and a half years which equals 1260 days, Daniel 7:25; 12:7; Revelation 11:2, 3. And it was given unto him to make war with the saints and to overcome them and power was given him over all kindred’s, and tongues, and nations. Daniel 7:24, 25 and another shall rise after them; and he shall be diverse from the first, He will think to change times and laws: and they shall be given into his hand until a time and times and the dividing of time.

Their secret mission will soon come to fruition in the last days before the great and terrible day of the Lord as we see during the seventh trumpet how this beast will deceive the world into taking its mark. The mark of the beast could possibly be some barcode or micro chip one has to receive in order to buy or sell, but what is important is the thoughts of the mind and actions of the hands of what one will subject themselves to in order to survive as much of the worlds resources will be gone during the time of the first six trumpet chastisements of God as He warns people they need to repent and turn back to Him, 2 Chronicles 7:14.

The mark of the beast is to those who have no understanding of the word of God as they reject the teachings of Christ as they are lovers of self, 2 Timothy 3:1-7 and will allow themselves to be deceived in their mind as they reach out with their hands and bow down to this Luciferians false religion that promises them provision, peace and safety during the time of Gods great wrath in the end of days as they have no faith in Jesus who supplies all our needs, Philippians 4:19. Here is the patience and the faith of the saints as they wait upon the Lords return. They will have to wholeheartedly draw on the Lords strength without hindrance while enduring the 3 1/2 years of this beast in the end of days.

 

[dianegcook]

You belive the abomination of desolation lasts 42 months?
Are you crazy?

The Hiroshima bomb our armed forces placed in Hiroshima didn't last more than a few moments.
And you believe it will take the armed forces of the north 42 months to make Jerusalem desolate?

You underestimate the power the armed forces of the north has.

And according to you, Daniel must have lied.
He said this is the time of distress, the likes of which the world has never seen.

Daniel 12:1 - Michael's Deliverance and the End Times

At that time Michael, the great prince who stands watch over your people, will rise up. There will be a time of distress, the likes of which will not have occurred from the beginning of nations until that time. But at that time your people--everyone whose name is found written in the book--will...

biblehub.com

Study that verse carefully.
Because that is the verse Jesus was quoting.

Matthew 24:21 NIV: For then there will be great distress, unequaled from the beginning of the world until now--and never to be equaled again.

You honestly believe the son of perdition shall reign in Jerusalem after he has died?

Daniel 11:45 - The King Who Exalts Himself

He will pitch his royal tents between the sea and the beautiful holy mountain, but he will meet his end with no one to help him.

biblehub.com

What makes you think he will reign in Jerusalem after he has met his end?

If I may butt in...
2Thess.2:1-9
It speaks of our gathering together unto Him.

First thing, Don't be DECEIVED, the gathering does not take place until the Son of perdition is revealed...
Who opposeth and exalteth himself above all that is called God...
So that he as God sitteth in the temple of God showing himself that he is God.

This is the abomination of desolation, which will turn some to apostasy, falling away, they will defect from the truth..
This is spiritual war fare, causing some to be deceived, thinking Satan is Christ..causing the desolation of One's soul.

Then shall the Lord destroy the so called antichrist role with the brightness of HIS COMING.
At His coming shall be the gathering....
As Matt.24:29,30
Mark 13:24-27
Luke 21:27,28

I do however believe the 42 months has been shortened.
Matt.24:22 and other places.