The Mark of the Beast (what it really is explained)

[mozo1]

In the Roman language Lucifer was the name given to the morning star Venus. The morning star appears in the sky just before dawn. In the Hebrew text the expression used to describe the Babylonian king before his death is Helal, son of Shahar, which can be translated as Day star, son of the Dawn. Jerome had mistranslated the Hebraic metaphor Day star, son of the Dawn, as Lucifer, and over the centuries a metamorphosis took place from the Latin in that of interpreting Lucifer into a fallen angel now named Satan. In the original Hebrew day star, son of the dawn is used, but not for that of Satan, but for the king of Babylon. Isaiah is using this metaphor for a bright light, though not the greatest light (Jesus) to illustrate the apparent power of the Babylonian king which then faded.

The name Satan comes from a Hebrew word sah-TAHN which means adversary as in signifying an enemy, and an accuser, father of lies.

Satan was created perfect in all his ways with beauty, wisdom and freewill. God placed him as the guardian or protector over the throne of God in heaven. He was entrusted with many possessions and found much favor in the Lord.

God created the earth and saw that it was good and he took Lucifer from Gods Holy Mountain and set him over the Garden of Eden as a covering cherub to watch over and enjoy all that was of God. As Lucifer was set in the garden iniquity was soon found in him as he defiled Gods sanctuary through pride in his own beauty and deceit as he wanted all that was of Gods here on earth to be his own as he tried to make his throne above the angels and be God.

Because iniquity was found in him God cast him and those angels who chose to follow him out of his holy mountain and cast them all down to earth to be trampled of all nations. The only reference in scripture that denotes there being one third of the angels falling with Satan is in Revelation 12:9.
(Ref: Read Ezekiel Chapter 28 Prince of Tyrus – another dual referent)

Revelation 12:4 And his tail drew the third part of the stars of heaven, and did cast them to the earth: and the dragon stood before the woman which was ready to be delivered, for to devour her child as soon as it was born.

Ezekiel 28:13 Thou hast been in Eden the garden of God; every precious stone was thy covering, the sardius, topaz, and the diamond, the beryl, the onyx, and the jasper, the sapphire, the emerald, and the carbuncle, and gold: the workmanship of thy tabrets and of thy pipes was prepared in thee in the day that thou wast created.
Ezekiel 28:14 Thou art the anointed cherub that covereth; and I have set thee so: thou wast upon the holy mountain of God; thou hast walked up and down in the midst of the stones of fire.
Ezekiel 28:15 Thou wast perfect in thy ways from the day that thou wast created, till iniquity was found in thee.
Ezekiel 28:16 By the multitude of thy merchandise they have filled the midst of thee with violence, and thou hast sinned: therefore I will cast thee as profane out of the mountain of God: and I will destroy thee, O covering cherub, from the midst of the stones of fire.
Ezekiel 28:17 Thine heart was lifted up because of thy beauty, thou hast corrupted thy wisdom by reason of thy brightness: I will cast thee to the ground, I will lay thee before kings, that they may behold thee.

Isaiah 14:12 How art thou fallen from heaven, O Lucifer, son of the morning! how art thou cut down to the ground, which didst weaken the nations!
Isaiah 14:13 For thou hast said in thine heart, I will ascend into heaven, I will exalt my throne above the stars of God: I will sit also upon the mount of the congregation, in the sides of the north:
Isaiah 14:14 I will ascend above the heights of the clouds; I will be like the most High.
Isaiah 14:15 Yet thou shalt be brought down to hell, to the sides of the pit.
(Dual referent)

Satan was cast down to the earth and became the ruler of iniquity over it before the creation of man which is why he had the power and right to give the kingdoms of the world over to Christ. Satan corrupted the nations until there was no righteous person found except Noah. Even after Satan was cast down to the ground he still vowed that he would ascend back into heaven and take his place on the throne and be like the most high.

Jesus said

For I did not speak from Myself, but the Father Himself, having sent Me, gave Me a commandment, what I should say and what I should speak.

and therefor his words are Gods words

If I had not come and spoken to them, they would not have had sin; but now they have no excuse for their sin.

a question for you ... who did God come and speak to before sin was something known, seeing once it is known there is no excuse for it. but when not known there is

 

[daninthelionsden]

Jesus said

For I did not speak from Myself, but the Father Himself, having sent Me, gave Me a commandment, what I should say and what I should speak.

and therefor his words are Gods words

If I had not come and spoken to them, they would not have had sin; but now they have no excuse for their sin.

a question for you ... who did God come and speak to before sin was something known, seeing once it is known there is no excuse for it. but when not known there is

On Earth? He spoke to the first perfect man, in his innocence, Adam.

 

[mozo1]

On Earth? He spoke to the first perfect man, in his innocence, Adam.

if Adam was perfect (and i know of no verse which says as much) why did he need a helper ?

 

[daninthelionsden]

if Adam was perfect (and i know of no verse which says as much) why did he need a helper ?

Hmmm. I was shown a verse 20 years ago in the New Testament stating Adam was such. I don't have any of my study material as it is all packed away in boxes. The guy who showed me the verse was someone I didn't get along with and it kinda pissed me off when he showed it to me because I was arguing Adam was not perfect. I think the verse he showed me was in a Bible version not King James so maybe it was an adulterated interpretation. Anyway, he and I finally found common ground when I agreed Adam may have been perfect before he sinned as God made all things without error. It was a 2 decade old conversation. I cannot find any verse backing up what I said so I withdraw the "perfect" term.

 

[Tessa]

God said it was not good for man to be alone
That is why He gave Adan a helper

 

[for_his_glory]

Jesus said

For I did not speak from Myself, but the Father Himself, having sent Me, gave Me a commandment, what I should say and what I should speak.

and therefor his words are Gods words

If I had not come and spoken to them, they would not have had sin; but now they have no excuse for their sin.

a question for you ... who did God come and speak to before sin was something known, seeing once it is known there is no excuse for it. but when not known there is

None else other than the first man Adam who allowed himself to sin against God's command not to eat of the tree of good and evil. From that time forth has led up to that of the beast out of the sea, who even now continues to works its evil reign in the world and in the end of days gives power to the beast out of the earth causing all to bow down to worship him by seducing signs and wonders causing all to take its mark or be killed.

 

[for_his_glory]

if Adam was perfect (and i know of no verse which says as much) why did he need a helper ?

Adam and Eve were both created perfect as they were made in the image of God. Read Genesis 1:26-31, especially vs. 31 and Genesis 2:4-25, especially vs. 28.

Gen 1:31 And God saw every thing that he had made, and, behold, it was very good. And the evening and the morning were the sixth day.

Gen 2:18 And the LORD God said, It is not good that the man should be alone; I will make him an help meet for him.

But we are getting off topic as this needs to be another topic if you would like to start one in the Bible Study forum.

 

[mozo1]

Adam and Eve were both created perfect as they were made in the image of God. Read Genesis 1:26-31, especially vs. 31 and Genesis 2:4-25, especially vs. 28.

Gen 1:31 And God saw every thing that he had made, and, behold, it was very good. And the evening and the morning were the sixth day.

Gen 2:18 And the LORD God said, It is not good that the man should be alone; I will make him an help meet for him.

But we are getting off topic as this needs to be another topic if you would like to start one in the Bible Study forum.

there is one word so there is only one topic .....

 

[for_his_glory]

there is one word so there is only one topic .....

What I meant about getting off topic is that this one is about the mark of the beast and not about Adam and Eve. That is why I asked you to make a new thread about Adam and Eve, maybe in the Theology forum or the Bible Study forum so we do not derail this one.

 

[mattcandyc]

I heard a theory was a facemask and gloves were the mark beast of the beast

 

[for_his_glory]

I heard a theory was a facemask and gloves were the mark beast of the beast

Not the mark of the beast, but does have some tendency with end time prophecy.

Matthew 24:7 For nation shall rise against nation, and kingdom against kingdom: and there shall be famines, and pestilences, and earthquakes, in divers places.

 

[mattcandyc]

This article made me wonder more:-

The 'masks' of the beast

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[mattcandyc]

What if governments want to make being microchipped mandatory?

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Digital_Angel 'digital angel' they call themselves involved in the subject of chipping

 

[mattcandyc]

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Microchip_implant_(human) mentions digital angel. I looked at images online of temperature checks for covid and the checks are on the forehead, a kind of mark?

 

[for_his_glory]

search the scriptures for there you will find your answer as to what the mark of the beast is.

 

[Shilohsfoal]

The mark of the beast, is not a literal physical mark.
Just as the seal of God (Revelation 7:3) is not a physical mark on the people of God.

That seal we understood as spiritual, in the faith and in
the character; this evil brand we must interpret in like manner, being also
a spiritual mark.

You cannot receive the seal of God without your willingness to serve the Lord and keep His commandments.
Nor can you receive this mark of the beast without willingness to do its commandments and taking an active role
in fighting against God and His saints. A mark that must be spiritually discerned.
(read the Holy Bible and keep God's commandments
and precepts and you will gain this discernment by knowing right from wrong)

There is much fear surrounding this doctrine where there needs not be.
Nobody can unknowingly receive this mark. Those who receive this mark, are made partakers
of the benefits of the beast's spiritual dominion. But by becoming willing servants unto Satan
and his spiritual dominion, have sadly, guaranteed their place in the lake of fire.

Actually the beast is a physical kingdom upon earth which is devided into 11 countries. 10 countries which think much alike and a little 11th country which is different that the others.
This little country has a crown city that sits upon seven hills. The ki g of this country won the seven hills by defeating three of the other countries of that kingdom.

Now this is my interpretion of this kingdom.
This kingdom is the promised land. The ten countries that are much alike are Muslim countries and th e 11th little country is Jewish. The crowned city is Jerusalem.
At the time of the end the 10 Islamic countries attack the crowned city and capture it.
As for the mark of this kingdom.
It is a physical mark which will be distributed into the right hand or forehead and will be used for buying and selling physical items.
It is the brainchild of the king of the crowned city of Jerusalem.

Israel eyes cashless economy to boost tax collection

Israel eyes cashless economy to boost tax collection

www.latimes.com

 

[Link1983]

A mark can mean a visible impression, identifying seal, inscription or label and also the thoughts of the mind and actions of the hand. The mark of the beast is just that which is full of political self governed power that disguises itself as a religious system full of symbolism that is very deceptive to those who have no Spiritual discernment. From its throne will be displayed many signs and wonders that will promise peace and safety during the time of great tribulation as Gods wrath will be poured out during the seven trumpets sounding. Many will take this mark believing it to be a visible sign of God, but with a great falling away from God will be deceived and separated from God forever, Rev 13, 2 Thessalonians 2:1-12

The mark of the beast is to those who have no understanding of the word of God as they reject the teachings of Christ as they are lovers of self, 2 Timothy 3:1-7, and will allow themselves to be deceived in their mind as they reach out with their hands and bow down to this Luciferians false religion that promises them provision, peace and safety during the time of Gods great wrath in the end of days as they have no faith in Jesus who supplies all our needs, Philippians 4:19. To understand this mark of the beast we first have to understand what and who this beast is and its controlling deceptive power.

Galatians 6:17 From henceforth let no man trouble me: for I bear in my body the marks of the Lord Jesus.

Revelation Chapter 13

John saw a beast (beast is often referred to as nations in scripture) rise up out of the sea having seven heads and ten horns and upon his horns ten crowns, (crowns denotes Kings) and upon his heads the name of blasphemy. The beast rises up out of the sea as the sea here is symbolic of people and nations as in a sea of humanity, Daniel Chapter 7:1-8; Revelation 17:15. This beast is a Luciferian system of political, economic, military, educational and false religious power that Satan has always worked through.

The seven heads are that of the Babylonian Empire, Medo/Persian Empire, Grecian Empire and Roman Empire.
Seven remaining nations that still exist today:

Babylonian Empire:
(Iraq) The lion represents the winged lions that guarded the royal places of Babylon. This Empire ran from 2000BC - 1759BC

Medo – Persian Empire:
(Iran) The ribs of the bear are part of the consuming greed that devours the first empire. This Empire ran approximately from 536BC - 330BC

Grecian Empire:
(Greece, Turkey, Syria, Egypt) Four wings of the leopard described the swiftness of this empire that ran from 334-331BC. It wrestled world dominion from Medo-Persia. After the death of Alexander the Great the kingdom was divided into four minor kingdoms that continued as prominent factors in world politics until the Roman Empire gathered it back as one kingdom.

Roman Empire: (little horn, Daniel 8:9-14, 23-27)
Iron represents the stronghold this nation had. Daniel chapter 2 mentions the iron element of this empire that it to will be divided and broken as God will set up a kingdom that will never be destroyed.
This Empire ran from 753BC -27BC

The ten horns represent the nations the Roman Empire scattered to when the deadly wound was put upon them, Daniel 7:23-25; Rev 13. The deadly wound came in 1798 when General Berthier of France captured Pope Pius VI, who soon died in captivity in Valence, on August 29, 1799. Seven of these nations are the ancestors of the modern nations of Europe.

These ten nations were the Anglo-Saxons (English), the Franks (French), Suevi (Portuguese), Visigoths (Spanish), Burgundians (Swiss), Alemanni (Germans), Lombards (Italians), Ostrogoths, Heruli, and the Vandals in northern Africa. The last three being Ostrogoths, Heruli, and the Vandals had already been destroyed by the Roman Empire before their deadly wound came in 1798.

What was and was not and yet to come has always been the Roman Empire that has always persecuted Gods chosen from the foundation of the world whose names is found written in the Lambs book of life. The beast out of the sea is the revived Roman Empire as its deadly wound has been healed as we see in John’s vision as Satan gives this beast his power, seat and great authority. They, being those whose names are not found written in the Lambs book of life bow down to the authority of the beast and its false religious system as they are deceived having no truth or understanding found in them as they are lead about like a bull with a ring in its nose as they bow down to this pagan authority, Hosea 4:6, 7; 2 Thessalonians 2:3.

The beast was given a mouth speaking great things and blasphemies and power was given unto him to continue for three and a half years which equals 1260 days, Daniel 7:25; 12:7; Revelation 11:2, 3. And it was given unto him to make war with the saints and to overcome them and power was given him over all kindred’s, and tongues, and nations. Daniel 7:24, 25 and another shall rise after them; and he shall be diverse from the first, He will think to change times and laws: and they shall be given into his hand until a time and times and the dividing of time.

Another beast comes up out of the earth that looks like a lamb (false Christ) with two horns. The two horns represent the Old Roman Empire Priesthood that received its deadly wound back in 1798 that caused them to scatter into the other ten nations (horns). The wound was healed in 1929.

Here is the patience and the faith of the saints as they wait upon the Lords return. They will have to wholeheartedly draw on the Lords strength without hindrance while enduring the 3 1/2 years of this beast in the end of days.

Are you pre or post tribulation?
I think that the mark might be physical or might not be.
A true believer will know when it is here and to make a decision knowing.
Non believers (or fake) will take it. I believe that we are close to that..
A saved one can not! Be separated from God unwillingly!
God bless!

 

[Dmitryet]

The mark of the beast, is not a literal physical mark.
Just as the seal of God (Revelation 7:3) is not a physical mark on the people of God.

That seal we understood as spiritual, in the faith and in
the character; this evil brand we must interpret in like manner, being also
a spiritual mark.

You cannot receive the seal of God without your willingness to serve the Lord and keep His commandments.
Nor can you receive this mark of the beast without willingness to do its commandments and taking an active role
in fighting against God and His saints. A mark that must be spiritually discerned.
(read the Holy Bible and keep God's commandments
and precepts and you will gain this discernment by knowing right from wrong)

There is much fear surrounding this doctrine where there needs not be.
Nobody can unknowingly receive this mark. Those who receive this mark, are made partakers
of the benefits of the beast's spiritual dominion. But by becoming willing servants unto Satan
and his spiritual dominion, have sadly, guaranteed their place in the lake of fire.

is the Pharisees ' leaven - hypocrisy of idols of they-self (human created in the day 6 - false trinity) and they kill by liberty for Barrabas. Interdiction for multiplication of talent of Salvation and Redemption.

 

[mattcandyc]

I was out walking and walked past a bar with outdoor sitting, a member of staff was taken someone's temperature, even if it's not the mark of the beast or will be, I didn't like it! Or like looking at it! I am not happy at all about ever having mine being taken!

 

[for_his_glory]

Are you pre or post tribulation?
I think that the mark might be physical or might not be.
A true believer will know when it is here and to make a decision knowing.
Non believers (or fake) will take it. I believe that we are close to that..
A saved one can not! Be separated from God unwillingly!
God bless!

I believe those who are still alive and are Christ own are here until the last day when Christ returns as He has already told us of all things that must come first before His return, Matthew 24. That chapter includes signs of the end of the age, vs. 3-14, as even now we see these signs escalating throughout all the generations from the time Jesus talked with His disciples. Jesus gives us a warning about the abomination that causes desolation that will stand in the Holy place in Jerusalem, vs.15-28 that we also read about more clearly in Daniel Chapters 7-9; 2 Thessalonians 2:1-12; Revelation 13-18, as people need to be educated about this abomination that will cause all to take its mark or die a martyr's death as it's found throughout the OT within the prophecies that Prophets told us about and NT as we see who the beast out of the sea who gives its power to the beast out of the earth being the revived Roman Empire. Matthew 24:29-51 Jesus gives us the sign of His coming, but no one knows the day or the hour of His return as it will be like in the days of Noah when the flood came and took everyone away, except Noah and his family as they were prepared for the flood.

We also read in vs. 31 that this is when we who are alive, or sleep in the grave are then caught up to Jesus to meet Him in the air and then we will evermore be with the Lord for eternity as we endured all things unto the end, Matthew 24:13; John 5:28, 29; 6:40; 1 Corinthians 15:50-58; 1 Thessalonians 4:13-18.

There are so many theories about what the mark of the beast is and I kinda lean on it being a chip implanted in order to buy and sell during the time of the seventh trumpet sounding with the 3 1/2 year reign of the beast out of the sea and out of the earth that will cause everyone to bow down and worship him claiming he is God, Rev 13. Rev 17-18 describes the two beast.