Bible Study The Most Amazing Thing In The Bible

[iLOVE]

The Law Of The Spirit Of Life In Christ Jesus is the will of God's only prescribe order of victory for every born again Believer. It simply means that the Believer must maintain Faith exclusively in Christ and the Cross, i.e., Finished Work.

The Holy Spirit works exclusively within the legal confines of the Finished Work, i.e., "the Cross," guarantees the help of the Holy Spirit, which guarantees Victory.

If the Believers doesn't understand or attempts to live for God by any manner other than Faith in Christ and the Cross, he is doomed to failure. This places the Believer in the law of sin and death which is sin. For whatsoever is not of faith is sin.

The Law Of The Spirit Of Life In Christ Jesus gives the Believer victory over the world, the flesh, and the devil.

Victory over the world: Galatians 6:14 ; 1 John 5:4
Victory over the flesh: Galatians 5:24
Victory over the devil: Hebrews 2:14 ; Colossians 2:15

God only awards imputed righteousness by maintaining faith exclusively in Christ and his finished work (Romans 4:5). God only recognize the blood of Jesus on the door post of our hearts. That Believer is now under the strongest law in the universe, " The Law Of The Spirit Of Life In Christ Jesus (Romans 8:2)." This law is stronger than "The Law Of Sin And Death (Romans 8:1-2)." So when you do miss the mark and sin, you still have imputed righteousness. Which means: There is therefore now no condemnation to them which are in Christ Jesus, who walk not after the flesh, but after the Spirit. Sin has no dominion over you. (The Believer must confess their sins 1 John 1:9)

If we as Believers do not understand these two Laws, then the "law of sin and death" will wreak its havoc on us.

Therefore being justified by faith, we have peace with God through our Lord Jesus Christ: Romans 5:1 ; Hebrews 10:38 ; Hab. 2:4 NLT
Two kinds of peace

1. Justifying Peace - This is Peace with God, a legal standing. Rom. 8:7; Eph. 2:14-15
2. Sanctifying Peace - This is the Peace of God in the heart. Rom. 8:6; 14:19; 15:13; Gal. 1:3

The first is the result of a legal standing. The second is the result of the Work of the Holy Spirit. The first is static, never fluctuates, the second changes almost from hour to hour. The first, every Christian has, the second, every Christian may have.

1 Thessalonians 5:23-24 says, "And the very God of peace sanctify you wholly; and I pray God your whole spirit and soul and body be preserved blameless unto the coming of our Lord Jesus Christ. 24 Faithful is he that calleth you, who also will do it."

Pastor Jimmy Swaggart Bible Commentary

Note: The bible doesn't teach "sinless perfection." 1 John 1:10
2 Peter 1:5-11 NIV, John 14:27 NIV, Colossians 3:15 NCV, Romans 12 NCV, James 1:7-8 NASB

There is no graduating classes in "The Law Of The Spirit Of Life In Christ Jesus" Philippians 3:13

 

[JohnDB]

In Romans Paul condemns those that say,"let us sin so that grace can abound more".

And repentance means a complete turn around and go the other way.
Repent and be Baptized is the call for those who know of God.
Licensed sin never has existed nor ever will. Jesus never put up with sin...He was there to unhesitatingly crush it.

 

[Douglas Summers]

Your scripture reference which I am well familiar with did not answer my question. Also, you did not understand my post even after I explained it to you.

1 Cor. 6:15-20 could not be any plainer Obadiah. I went back and read your post. It says the same thing it said the first time I read it. You don't think that homosexuality is a worse sin to God than any other sin, (especially since He did not have it at the top of the list of sin in (Ezek. 16:48-59). And as one example you give is those who just give to the poor and do not do the dirty work their self (I have never heard that called dirty work before) Unless you mean that the man who gives, just gives because he dose not want to be bothered with the work?) is just as much a sin as homosexuality. and that we should not judge the homosexual as any different than the person who gives materially and not physically. So do not judge the homosexual, because you are a sinner too........... It is a strawy argument.
First of all, it is not for us to judge those outside Church. God will do that, but WE (the Church)are to judge sin in the Church and are to address it at once and not let it continue (1 Corinthians chapters 5 & 6) read them before and if you answer. What you wrote sounds good to the novice, but it is not the order of the Church under Christ. And being that the American Constitution allows the Christian to have a voice in the governmental climate he lives under. He also then has the right (under God) to construct a Godly Constitution of governance.

 

[iLOVE]

And the Lord said, Simon, Simon, behold, Satan has desired to have you, that he may sift you as wheat:

But I have prayed for you, that your faith fail not: and when you have returned, strengthen your brethren. Luke 22:31-32 NKJV

Notice: Jesus prayed that Peter faith fail not! Jesus already knew Peter would sin and deny Him. Every attack of the enemy wants a Believer to move their faith to something else other than Jesus. Paul said, "I have fought the good fight of faith." He didn't say, "I have fought the good fight of not sinning."

I do agree that all sin does has consequences. However the JUST must live by FAITH. That faith must be only in Christ and the Cross. Any other faith is spiritual adultery and you frustrate the GRACE of God.

 

[Free]

Romans 1:26 is one judgement
Romans 1:28 is another separate judgement.

Both are self imposed curses... neither a positive.
Romans is very clear with no wiggle room. So even the attraction is a curse as a result of very intentional sin.

At the time of Paul's writing this paper was very expensive. Ink also was extremely expensive. Therefore there is a reason it was written in such a fashion.

The later verses explain that Homosexual attraction is the symptom of the problem. It in itself is a problem yes, but it's indicative of a worse problem.

I'm not quite sure what you're saying here but I don't see how it addresses the fact that Romans 1 does not say same-sex attraction is a sin but rather makes clear that homosexual acts are sin.

The natural revulsion we have with Homosexuals and they for those that do not approve of homosexuality is a God given revulsion to keep them from being a part of our congregations. God doesn't want us accepting of them.

This requires you to define just what you mean by "homosexual"--those with same-sex attraction or those who practice homosexuality. And then you need to define what you mean by "being a part of our congregation".

 

[Douglas Summers]

It means it will not cause one to lose their soul.

All sins is punishable by Death (All Sin!) How is there then a sin ,not unto death?

 

[iLOVE]

All sins is punishable by Death (All Sin!) How is there then a sin ,not unto death?

The "Law of the Spirit of Life in Christ Jesus" is stronger than the "Law of Sin and Death." Romans 8:1-2 NKJV

 

[Douglas Summers]

The "Law of the Spirit of Life in Christ Jesus" is stronger than the "Law of Sin and Death." Romans 8:1-2 NKJV

 

[Douglas Summers]

The "Law of the Spirit of Life in Christ Jesus" is stronger than the "Law of Sin and Death." Romans 8:1-2 NKJV

 

[smaller]

In Romans Paul condemns those that say,"let us sin so that grace can abound more".

And repentance means a complete turn around and go the other way.
Repent and be Baptized is the call for those who know of God.
Licensed sin never has existed nor ever will. Jesus never put up with sin...He was there to unhesitatingly crush it.

I honestly don't know where or how believers come up with the above.

Gods Words (of Law) were specifically given to increase sin:

Romans 7:
12 Wherefore the law is holy, and the commandment holy, and just, and good.
13 Was then that which is good made death unto me? God forbid. But sin, that it might appear sin, working death in me by that which is good; that sin by the commandment might become exceeding sinful.

We all expect homosexuals to stop their "sinful" activity but we never consider that exactly zero of any of us stopped our own sins and became sinless.

Believers seldom if ever consider that the extents of Gods Very Real and Present Power upon the earth is found and seen exactly on the grounds of Gods Laws turning the world upside down on it's ear in sin.

And that is exactly the direction Gods Laws were Divinely Intended to take the whole world. And that's where it's gone and going to. Ever deeper into sin.

There is no question to me that God would love an honest sinner believer (perhaps like an honest homosexual) far more than a lying hypocrite believer.

We should recognize the facts well enough from scriptures to see that lying hypocrisy is probably about as low as any person can go on the spiritual totem pole with God in Christ. (1 Tim. 4:2)

Romans 5:20
Moreover the law entered, that the offence might abound. But where sin abounded, grace did much more abound:

 

[smaller]

Gods is Perfectly Capable of destroying every sinner off the face of the earth in the next minute if God wanted to.

And, if that was done, there were be zero people here because all are sinners.

Looking at Sodom and Gomorrah as a testimony against homosexuality is missing the larger point about the captivity of sin in general and it's long path downward into numerous and various forms of sinning debauchery.

Has anyone ever considered that Sodom and Gomorrah is a witness and a warning of the destruction to come to the devil and his messengers? Just as the flood was a likewise warning. This is exactly the angle that Jesus drew from both of these events, pointing to both S&G and the days of Noah as a warning of the end to come.

Who's end is really the question at hand. I will maintain that Jesus taught S&G and the days of Noah as the end of the devil and his messengers just as He taught the same thing in Matt. 25 for example.

Gods Laws against homosexuality only served to fan the flames of that sin ever further into the world and those sins are a direct cause of Satan and devils in the flesh of mankind.

The sins of any of us are no differently sourced. 1 John 3:8

 

[Obadiah]

1 Cor. 6:15-20 could not be any plainer Obadiah. I went back and read your post. It says the same thing it said the first time I read it. You don't think that homosexuality is a worse sin to God than any other sin, (especially since He did not have it at the top of the list of sin in (Ezek. 16:48-59). And as one example you give is those who just give to the poor and do not do the dirty work their self (I have never heard that called dirty work before) Unless you mean that the man who gives, just gives because he dose not want to be bothered with the work?) is just as much a sin as homosexuality. and that we should not judge the homosexual as any different than the person who gives materially and not physically. So do not judge the homosexual, because you are a sinner too........... It is a strawy argument.
First of all, it is not for us to judge those outside Church. God will do that, but WE (the Church)are to judge sin in the Church and are to address it at once and not let it continue (1 Corinthians chapters 5 & 6) read them before and if you answer. What you wrote sounds good to the novice, but it is not the order of the Church under Christ. And being that the American Constitution allows the Christian to have a voice in the governmental climate he lives under. He also then has the right (under God) to construct a Godly Constitution of governance.

Never mind. You're just totally missing all the points I was trying to make and ignoring the question I asked you. I don't know if you are doing that on purpose for the sake of an argument, or if you are actually not understanding. Either way I'll just accept that you don't understand.

 

[Douglas Summers]

Never mind. You're just totally missing all the points I was trying to make and ignoring the question I asked you. I don't know if you are doing that on purpose for the sake of an argument, or if you are actually not understanding. Either way I'll just accept that you don't understand.

I don't understand your teaching. But I do understand that we can sometimes through the zeal for righteousness to allow the flesh to explain Spiritual things.

 

[Obadiah]

I don't understand your teaching. But I do understand that we can sometimes through the zeal for righteousness to allow the flesh to explain Spiritual things.

I'm not "teaching" anything, but was just looking for a scriptural conversation on why God has such a dim view of fornication but yet it was not even listed in the Ezekiel account of the sins of Sodom. I can see I'm better off to have that conversation with actual theologians.

 

[JohnDB]

I'm not "teaching" anything, but was just looking for a scriptural conversation on why God has such a dim view of fornication but yet it was not even listed in the Ezekiel account of the sins of Sodom. I can see I'm better off to have that conversation with actual theologians.

Actually it is.
In Hebrew there are no bad words. There is no Hebrew word for Homosexual or prostitute or thief or abuser. Doesn't exist at all.

Sodom though was one way of saying homosexuality.
And in the Ezekiel passages concerning Sodom it was all about how Israel was worse...and considering that the passages in question are all in different poetry, meter, and rhythms and rhyme...the word "dog" (the one euphemistically used for Homosexual wouldn't fit)....but the word abomination did....and was used.

In the before mentioned passages count how many ways and different people that Israel was said to prostitute herself to...

One more sexual reference and the passages would be an encyclopedia of perversion...and Israel was so bad that it made Sodom look innocent (a paraphrase)

Homosexuality is a given when mentioning Sodom... paper being very expensive. It simply isn't needed to be listed as it would be redundant.

 

[Douglas Summers]

I'm not "teaching" anything, but was just looking for a scriptural conversation on why God has such a dim view of fornication but yet it was not even listed in the Ezekiel account of the sins of Sodom. I can see I'm better off to have that conversation with actual theologians.

Well I'm not a theologian. You should not have any trouble finding one. The world is full of them. What is few in the world are born again believers who love their Lord.