What's new
By:
Filters
Christian Forums

This is a sample guest message. Register a free account today to become a member! Once signed in, you'll be able to participate on this site by adding your own topics and posts, as well as connect with other members through your own private inbox!

The one world goverment

It appears you dont understand the difference between tribulation and the great tribulation.

The tribulation is a 42 month period in scripture where the saints in Israel is persecuted for thier testimony of Christ.
The great tribulation is the affects of a war.The use of nuclear weapons during the war of Armegedon.Such things as earthquakes and the heavens departing from the earth as a scroll being rolled together.
The abomination which causes desolation which is used by the armed forces to cause desolation and kill everything in its wake is such a weapon which causes great tribulation.Just read about Hiroshima when it was made desolate by the armed forces and read about it affects.
 
Jesus will return after te tribulation but during the great tribulation .As daniel states,the resurection takes place at the time of great ditress unlike there has ever been or ever shall be.

The moon not showing her light and the stars of heaven falling to the earth are from the war of Armegedon.When Jesus said he would come in revelation.

biblehub.com

Revelation 16:15 - The First Six Bowls of Wrath

Behold, I am coming like a thief. Blessed is the one who remains awake and clothed, so that he will not go naked and let his shame be exposed.
biblehub.com
biblehub.com

Revelation 16:16 - The First Six Bowls of Wrath

And they assembled the kings in the place that in Hebrew is called Armageddon.
biblehub.com
 
Last edited:
Shilohsfoal said:
Jesus will return after te tribulation but during the great tribulation .As daniel states,the resurection takes place at the time of great ditress unlike there has ever been or ever shall be.

The moon not showing her light and the stars of heaven falling to the earth are from the war of Armegedon.When Jesus said he would come in revelation.

biblehub.com

Revelation 16:15 - The First Six Bowls of Wrath

Behold, I am coming like a thief. Blessed is the one who remains awake and clothed, so that he will not go naked and let his shame be exposed.
biblehub.com
biblehub.com

Revelation 16:16 - The First Six Bowls of Wrath

And they assembled the kings in the place that in Hebrew is called Armageddon.
biblehub.com
Click to expand...


I don’t believe that war on earth will cause the stars to fall from the heavens.



JLB
 
Shilohsfoal said:
It appears you dont understand the difference between tribulation and the great tribulation.

The tribulation is a 42 month period in scripture where the saints in Israel is persecuted for thier testimony of Christ.
The great tribulation is the affects of a war.The use of nuclear weapons during the war of Armegedon.Such things as earthquakes and the heavens departing from the earth as a scroll being rolled together.
The abomination which causes desolation which is used by the armed forces to cause desolation and kill everything in its wake is such a weapon which causes great tribulation.Just read about Hiroshima when it was made desolate by the armed forces and read about it affects.
Click to expand...


Why is it just the saints in Israel that are persecuted?



It was granted to him to make war with the saints and to overcome them. And authority was given him over every tribe, tongue, and nation. All who dwell on the earth will worship him, whose names have not been written in the Book of Life of the Lamb slain from the foundation of the world.
Revelation 13:7-8



JLB
 
Shilohsfoal said:
It appears you dont understand the difference between tribulation and the great tribulation.
Click to expand...

The great tribulation is what Jesus and Daniel and John and the scriptures I quoted, all refer to.



“Immediately after the tribulation of those days the sun will be darkened, and the moon will not give its light; the stars will fall from heaven, and the powers of the heavens will be shaken. Then the sign of the Son of Man will appear in heaven, and then all the tribes of the earth will mourn, and they will see the Son of Man coming on the clouds of heaven with power and great glory. And He will send His angels with a great sound of a trumpet, and they will gather together His elect from the four winds, from one end of heaven to the other. Matthew 24:29-31


This is referring to the great tribulation, which lasts for 3 1/2 years.


Here’s the context of verse 29 -



For then there will be great tribulation, such as has not been since the beginning of the world until this time, no, nor ever shall be. Matthew 24:21




JLB
 
Shilohsfoal said:
Jesus will return after te tribulation but during the great tribulation .As daniel states,the resurection takes place at the time of great ditress unlike there has ever been or ever shall be.

The moon not showing her light and the stars of heaven falling to the earth are from the war of Armegedon.When Jesus said he would come in revelation.

biblehub.com

Revelation 16:15 - The First Six Bowls of Wrath

Behold, I am coming like a thief. Blessed is the one who remains awake and clothed, so that he will not go naked and let his shame be exposed.
biblehub.com
biblehub.com

Revelation 16:16 - The First Six Bowls of Wrath

And they assembled the kings in the place that in Hebrew is called Armageddon.
biblehub.com
Click to expand...

We do not enter the Millennial Kingdom here on earth in our natural bodies, but in new glorified bodies, 1 Corinthians 15:51-54. When Christ returns in the air we are then caught up to meet Him in the air and so shall we ever be with the Lord as He has made us unto our God kings and priests and we shall reign on the earth as we rule with Him over the nations as His enemies have become His footstool, 1 Thessalonians 4:16-18; Rev 5:10; Psalms 110:1-4; Hebrews 10:12, 13.

Matthew 24:29-31; Rev 19:11-21 Jesus descends down from heaven with His army of the host of heaven as He sends His angels out to the four corners of the earth to gather His own to Him. He will destroy the beast and false prophet casting them into the lake of fire, Rev 19:15, 16. The remnant in Rev 19:21 are the kings (Rulers of every nation) on the earth and their armies that followed after the beast and his false prophet that go out to the battle of Armageddon as this army is sent out to kill Christ when they see Him and the saints with Him return and plants His feet on the mount of Olives, Zechariah 14:1-4.

The remnant, like the beast and false prophet, will be slain by the very words Jesus speaks of their demise and at that time Satan will be chained and bound so he can not interfere with those ungodly that are still alive on earth that become the footstool of Christ. Then the kingdoms of this world are become the kingdoms of our Lord and of his Christ and He shall reign for ever and ever and the saints will then begin to rule over the nations here on earth, Rev 11:15; 5:10; 20:1-3; Matthew 5:5.

Rev 20:7-10 Those that have rejected Christ that still remain on earth after the beast, false prophet and all the kings/rulers from every nation are destroyed are those who are the numbering as the sand of the sea. These are the enemy of God that Satan uses to battle against the saints that are camped upon the breadth of the earth. Psalms 2:7-10; 110; Ezekiel 36; 37; Rev 20:7-9 the saints are camped not only in Jerusalem the beloved city of God, but also throughout the breadth of the earth. It's only the 144,000 generational Jews that believe in Christ that have returned to Jerusalem. After the 1000 years are fulfilled Satan is set loosed for a season and goes out to deceive the nations as he gathers the enemies of Christ to battle against the saints as the numbering of unbelievers is like the sand of the sea. As the enemy surrounds the camp of the saints God sends fire down from heaven and destroys the enemy and Satan is cast onto the lake of fire.
 
Shilohsfoal said:
If you dont know which of these two goverments is the one world goverment you should have just said you dont know and let someone with knowledge of the subject answer.

Ps
This chapter had nothing to do with Alexander.That is a teaching of the pharisees who were blind guides of the blind.
I see you teach the same meaning as those pharisees or did you not even know where you interpretation originate.
Click to expand...

Sorry, but Daniel Chapter 11 is about the rule of Persia and the rule of Greece which are the second and third ruling empires that Daniel spoke of in Daniel Chapter 7.

Babylonian Empire:
(Iraq) The lion represents the winged lions that guarded the royal places of Babylon. This Empire ran from 2000BC - 1759BC

Medo – Persian Empire:
(Iran) The ribs of the bear are part of the consuming greed that devours the first empire. This Empire ran approximately from 536BC - 330BC

Grecian Empire:
(Greece, Turkey, Syria, Egypt) Four wings of the leopard described the swiftness of this empire that ran from 334-331BC. It wrestled world dominion from Medo-Persia. After the death of Alexander the Great the kingdom was divided into four minor kingdoms that continued as prominent factors in world politics until the Roman Empire gathered it back as one kingdom.

Roman Empire: (little horn, Daniel 8:9-14, 23-27)
Iron represents the stronghold this nation had. Daniel chapter 2 mentions the iron element of this empire that it to will be divided and broken as God will set up a kingdom that will never be destroyed.
This Empire ran from 753BC -27BC

The NWO is a Luciferian one world government that stems out of the Roman Empire. Their agenda includes total global control over political, military, economic, educational, religious and environmental systems for the deceptive purpose of ensuring global peace, prosperity and order during the timing of the seventh trumpet, Rev 13.
 
Shilohsfoal said:
I said,the tribulation does not begin untill the king offhe north gives te little horn a host which abolisges the sacrifice and showed you the verse when the saints begin to be persecuted in Israel.

Daniel 11:33 KJV: And they that understand among the people shall instruct many: yet they shall fall by the sword, and by flame, by captivity, and by spoil, many days.

biblehub.com

This is not the great tribulation.Jesus said in the gospel, the great tribulation begins after the abomination of desolation is set up which takes place 42 months after the sacrifice is abolished.
Click to expand...

Says you by how you believe. You need to give the same courtesy to others as in how they believe as this is a discussion, not a I am right you are wrong debate.
 
You must log in or register to reply here.
Back
Top