The Pagan Easter

[dianegcook]

peshac is a bit different then communion. the later precedes and supercedes the former. the shadow of communion with Christ is Passover. when jews celebrate peshac its to remind themselves of the birth of the nation. when a Christian partakes in communion its a reminder of the cross which greater and more personal.

Luke 22:19,20
The Last Supper
And He took bread, and gave thanks, and brake it, and gave unto therm, saying, This is My body which is given for you, this do in rememberance of Me.
Likewise also the cup saying, This cup is the new testament, in my blood which is shed for you.
The Passover was a shadow of things to come, as in the old, they put lamb's blood over the doorpost, representing Christ., the blood of Christ over us.

 

[dianegcook]

Exodus 12:13,14
And the blood shall be to you for a token upon the houses where ye are, and when I see the blood, I will pass over you, and the plague shall not be upon you to destroy you, when I smite Egypt.

And this day shall be unto you for a memorial,..,.

 

[sojourner4Christ]

There are biblical admonitions against pagan rituals associated with the Babylonian holy days (holidays in modern English).

Or, has anyone read Hislop's "Two Babylons"?

King Herod was waiting for the celebration of the death and resurrection of Tammuz the sun god. The sunrise services today are a continuation of that pagan worship. There they commemorate the resurrection of Tammuz.

"...The great annual festival in commemoration of the death and resurrection of Tammuz, which was celebrated by alternate weeping and rejoicing and which, in many countries, was considerably later than the Christian festival, being observed in Palestine and Assyria in June" (The Two Babylons, Alexander Hislop, page 105).

This is the same festival that Rome amalgamated with the observance of Christ's resurrection.

"To conciliate the Pagans to nominal Christianity, Rome, pursuing its usual policy, took measures to get the Christian and Pagan festivals amalgamated, and, by complicated but skillful adjustment of the calendar, it was found no difficult matter, in general, to get Paganism and Christianity - to shake hands" (The Two Babylons, Alexander Hislop, page 105)

The term Easter is of Pagan origin:

"It bears its Chaldean origin on its very forehead. Easter is nothing else than Astarte, one of the titles of Beltis, the queen of heaven...." (The Two Babylons, Alexander Hislop, page 103).

The connection between the word Easter and Tammuz is this. The wife of Tammuz was Ishtar (Astarte), who is called Mother nature, who being refreshed by spring rains brings life. When Tammuz died she followed him into the underworld or realm of Eresh-Kigal, queen of the dead.

In her deep grief Astarte persuaded Eresh-Kigal to allow her messenger to sprinkle Astarte and Tammuz with the water of life. By this sprinkling they had power to return into the light of the sun for six months. After which the same cycle must be repeated.

Thus the goddess of spring or the dawn goddess is responsible for the resurrection of Tammuz. Easter is a joint worship of the two.

This Satanic myth is interwoven with the sun's cycle of vernal equinox (dawn) and the autumn equinox (sunset).

This is what professing Christianity looks forward to each year, which has nothing to do with the worship of the Lord and Saviour Jesus Christ.

Paul tells us to eat the meat before us unless we know that it was sacrifice to an idol.

I desire to walk in truth. And info has been posted in this thread that exposes the pagan origin of Easter. If I didn't already know that info, I would certainly ask for it because I want to walk in holiness and purity before my Father. The $64,000 question is, how many love the truth and are willing to do whatever it takes to be IN that truth? Who would rather choose to look the other way and observe that pagan ritual this weekend?

Hear ye the word which the LORD speaketh unto you, O house of Israel: Thus saith the LORD, Learn not the way of the heathen, and be not dismayed at the signs of heaven; for the heathen are dismayed at them. For the customs of the people are vain... - Jer. 10:1-3

 

[gr8grace3]

My actions, or inactions, are nothing more than the outward workings of my heart condition. Show me the evidence, the proof, that the fork is an unclean thing. And then I will perform the work; I will do whatever it takes to walk in that revealed truth. I will not make excuses. I will not blaspheme the Holy Spirit.

We personally don't celebrate easter. But I would rather celebrate easter than have this kind of mental attitude towards people that do.

How far do we go?

For instance, every time you post something I just cringe that you have my Lord and Savior and Creator of the universe pasted inside of some pagan companies "Bulls- eye" with a "cute" quip. Procter and Gamble was rumored(I don't believe it) but it was rumored, that one of the heads of the company was a Satan worshiper. And He designed a satanic symbol for one of his products. Sorry, but that rumor was probably started by some Christian fundy.

 

[Obadiah]

Sigh... Here we go again. Every time Christianity has a celebration some people have to come along and try to ruin it for everyone else. Why is that? Is it because these people have no joy of the Lord in their lives and therefore can't stand to see other Christians joyfully celebrating their saviors resurrection, or birth, or whatever? Now it's Easter and us Christians are being falsely accused of worshiping some kind of false god. Well, everyone knows the Christian celebration of Easter is when we celebrate the resurrection of Jesus. So we are being told that Jesus is a false god it seems. Shame on those who do this while claiming the name of Jesus for themselves!

 

[jeff77]

I love reading about when Jesus appeared to Mary Magdalene in John 20:10-18 and when He appeared to his disciples in John 20:19-23. The joy knowing that the Savior is risen should be celebrated everyday. Not talking about Easter egg hunts, bunnies, etc... I don't know of anyone who intentionally has Easter egg hunts a way to celebrate a pagan god. Although I am sure it happens.

 

[jasonc]

Exodus 12:13,14
And the blood shall be to you for a token upon the houses where ye are, and when I see the blood, I will pass over you, and the plague shall not be upon you to destroy you, when I smite Egypt.

And this day shall be unto you for a memorial,..,.

again a shadow. its not a sin to celebrate Peshac. Just that well whom did the Angel slay? the firstborn of the children of Egypt, and their animals and any that didn't slay the lamb and place the blood as commanded.

a link to...

for God so love the world that He gave his only begotten Son.. an innocent had to die for the sins of the world. I could also link peshac to the statement by Jesus to Nicodemus.

 

[Obadiah]

...I don't know of anyone who intentionally has Easter egg hunts a way to celebrate a pagan god. Although I am sure it happens.

Never in my life have I known anyone to do this. All I've ever heard about this is baseless accusations.

 

[jasonc]

Never in my life have I known anyone to do this. All I've ever heard about this is baseless accusations.

same here. its just fun for kids. this is the stuff that(argument is word for word is the same) that the cult of the Kingdom Hall says we do.

 

[gr8grace3]

Never in my life have I known anyone to do this. All I've ever heard about this is baseless accusations.

Same here. Just have heard the accusations. Sad thing is, the accusations were always from other Christians.

 

[Lewis]

Sigh... Here we go again. Every time Christianity has a celebration some people have to come along and try to ruin it for everyone else. Why is that? Is it because these people have no joy of the Lord in their lives and therefore can't stand to see other Christians joyfully celebrating their saviors resurrection, or birth, or whatever? Now it's Easter and us Christians are being falsely accused of worshiping some kind of false god. Well, everyone knows the Christian celebration of Easter is when we celebrate the resurrection of Jesus. So we are being told that Jesus is a false god it seems. Shame on those who do this while claiming the name of Jesus for themselves!

Well aren't Biblical things supposed to be discussed here ? That is one of the things that this board is for. It is good for Christians to know how Easter came into being, and if people still want to get into Easter go right ahead, but the truth is the truth.

Be Blessed

 

[jasonc]

Well aren't Biblical things supposed to be discussed here ? That is one of the things that this board is for. It is good for Christians to know how Easter came into being, and if people still want to get into Easter go right ahead, but the truth is the truth.

Be Blessed

so why haven't we done a thread on birthdays? plenty of pagan origin to that.

I came from that legalism. its not a sin to do it, or not to. there is no command to take resurrection day as the day only to remember the cross. its as ye oft. which is whenever you feel the need to have communion then this is how you do it.

 

[Obadiah]

Well aren't Biblical things supposed to be discussed here ? That is one of the things that this board is for. It is good for Christians to know how Easter came into being, and if people still want to get into Easter go right ahead, but the truth is the truth.

Be Blessed

Biblical things yes, but not false accusations about celebrating and worshiping some false god. And not this grasping at any straw one can find to link good Godly Christian celebrations to some pagan ritual just to try to ruin the joy of the Lord for those of us who know that joy.

 

[jeff77]

There are biblical admonitions against pagan rituals associated with the Babylonian holy days (holidays in modern English).

Or, has anyone read Hislop's "Two Babylons"?

King Herod was waiting for the celebration of the death and resurrection of Tammuz the sun god. The sunrise services today are a continuation of that pagan worship. There they commemorate the resurrection of Tammuz.

"...The great annual festival in commemoration of the death and resurrection of Tammuz, which was celebrated by alternate weeping and rejoicing and which, in many countries, was considerably later than the Christian festival, being observed in Palestine and Assyria in June" (The Two Babylons, Alexander Hislop, page 105).

This is the same festival that Rome amalgamated with the observance of Christ's resurrection.

"To conciliate the Pagans to nominal Christianity, Rome, pursuing its usual policy, took measures to get the Christian and Pagan festivals amalgamated, and, by complicated but skillful adjustment of the calendar, it was found no difficult matter, in general, to get Paganism and Christianity - to shake hands" (The Two Babylons, Alexander Hislop, page 105)

The term Easter is of Pagan origin:

"It bears its Chaldean origin on its very forehead. Easter is nothing else than Astarte, one of the titles of Beltis, the queen of heaven...." (The Two Babylons, Alexander Hislop, page 103).

The connection between the word Easter and Tammuz is this. The wife of Tammuz was Ishtar (Astarte), who is called Mother nature, who being refreshed by spring rains brings life. When Tammuz died she followed him into the underworld or realm of Eresh-Kigal, queen of the dead.

In her deep grief Astarte persuaded Eresh-Kigal to allow her messenger to sprinkle Astarte and Tammuz with the water of life. By this sprinkling they had power to return into the light of the sun for six months. After which the same cycle must be repeated.

Thus the goddess of spring or the dawn goddess is responsible for the resurrection of Tammuz. Easter is a joint worship of the two.

This Satanic myth is interwoven with the sun's cycle of vernal equinox (dawn) and the autumn equinox (sunset).

This is what professing Christianity looks forward to each year, which has nothing to do with the worship of the Lord and Saviour Jesus Christ.

I desire to walk in truth. And info has been posted in this thread that exposes the pagan origin of Easter. If I didn't already know that info, I would certainly ask for it because I want to walk in holiness and purity before my Father. The $64,000 question is, how many love the truth and are willing to do whatever it takes to be IN that truth? Who would rather choose to look the other way and observe that pagan ritual this weekend?

Hear ye the word which the LORD speaketh unto you, O house of Israel: Thus saith the LORD, Learn not the way of the heathen, and be not dismayed at the signs of heaven; for the heathen are dismayed at them. For the customs of the people are vain... - Jer. 10:1-3

In the above post about the pagan origin of Easter you said:

"This is what professing Christianity looks forward to each year, which has nothing to do with the worship of the Lord and Saviour Jesus Christ."

Do you really think that Christians look forward to celebrating the goddess of spring and resurrection of Tammuz? Most have probably never heard of it and you are of course right that those things have nothing to do with Jesus.

 

[sojourner4Christ]

We personally don't celebrate easter. But I would rather celebrate easter than have this kind of mental attitude towards people that do.

How far do we go?

You tell me... Farcical comments? Hyperbole? Misdirection?

I am currently working on legislation to ban the fork. The common household eating utensil, the fork, is actually Satans trident.

As for me, I go as far as necessary to be in the truth and not remain in a lie.

For instance, every time you post something I just cringe that you have my Lord and Savior and Creator of the universe pasted inside of some pagan companies "Bulls- eye" with a "cute" quip. ...that rumor was probably started by some Christian fundy.

If you love the truth, and Jesus Christ IS the Truth, then you are IN the "Bulls - eye." Those of the world hate us.

 

[Lewis]

Biblical things yes, but not false accusations about celebrating and worshiping some false god. And not this grasping at any straw one can find to link good Godly Christian celebrations to some pagan ritual just to try to ruin the joy of the Lord for those of us who know that joy.

Okay, well the only reason that I posted it was to show where Easter came from, nothing more. I did not want people to argue about it.

 

[Obadiah]

Okay, well the only reason that I posted it was to show where Easter came from, nothing more. I did not want people to argue about it.

You weren't the one who posted the false accusations.

 

[reba]

this is also an admonition...
Php 4:7 And the peace of God, which passeth all understanding, shall keep your hearts and minds through Christ Jesus.
Php 4:8 Finally, brethren, whatsoever things are true, whatsoever things are honest, whatsoever things are just, whatsoever things are pure, whatsoever things are lovely, whatsoever things are of good report; if there be any virtue, and if there be any praise, think on these things.

 

[dianegcook]

Jer.7:18
The children gather wood, and the fathers kindle the fire, and the woman knead their dough, to make cakes to the queen of heaven, and to pour out drink offerings unto other gods, that they may provoke me to anger.

Also Jer.44:17-25

Ezek.8:14
Then He brought me to the door of the gate of the Lord's house, which was toward the north, and , behold, there sat women weeping for Tammuz.

Then He said unto me, Hast thou seen this? Turn thee yet again, and thou shalt see greater abominations.

And He brought me to the inner court of the Lord's house, and behold, at the door of the temple of their Lord, between the porch, and the altar, about 25 men, with their backs toward the temple of the Lord, and their faces toward the east, and they worshipped the sun toward the east,

Sunrise service?

 

[jasonc]

Jer.7:18
The children gather wood, and the fathers kindle the fire, and the woman knead their dough, to make cakes to the queen of heaven, and to pour out drink offerings unto other gods, that they may provoke me to anger.

Also Jer.44:17-25

Ezek.8:14
Then He brought me to the door of the gate of the Lord's house, which was toward the north, and , behold, there sat women weeping for Tammuz.

Therm He said unto me, Hast thou seen this? Turn thee yet again, and thou shalt see greater abominations.

And He brought me to the inner court of the Lord's house, and behold, at the door of the temple of their Lord, between the porch, and the altar, about 25 men, with their backs toward the temple of the Lord, and their faces toward the east, and they worshipped the sun toward the east,

Sunrise service?

uhm no, post a video(you attend and take it) and show me the pastor thanking the sun for the cross. you wont find that with the churches I know. a strawman until shown otherwise. if it offends you then don't do it.