[_ Old Earth _] The problem with accepting Christianity and Evolution

[keebs]

Don't Fool yourself, Life is so complex it is not just adding atoms around, I always laugh when a Evolution believer uses the word "simple"

I don't believe in "living" things or "non-living" things. There's no difference except for the type and amount of information they calculate.

 

[Solo]

Don't Fool yourself, Life is so complex it is not just adding atoms around, I always laugh when a Evolution believer uses the word "simple"

I don't believe in "living" things or "non-living" things. There's no difference except for the type and amount of information they calculate.

That's about as dumb as a box of rocks......thought Solo after he read the post knowing that rocks do not calculate any information. :

 

[sheseala]

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/science/nature/2122619.stm

Old, but interesting.

 

[Heidi]

It is impossible for one to be a Christian and an evolutionists at the same time because Jesus himself is the Word. "And the Word became flesh." And the Word (Jesus)tells us that God created man out of the dust, not from apes. Therefore, an evolutionist who claims to be a Christian believes in a Jesus of his imagination which makes him an imaginary Jesus, and therefore not real. Only the Jesus of the bible is real because the bible is the Word of God which is Jesus Christ himself.

 

[Quath]

By the same logic, you have to believe the earth does not move around the sun. The Word says the Earth is fixed and immovable.

So are you going to believe the Word or a telescope?

Quath

 

[Heidi]

By the same logic, you have to believe the earth does not move around the sun. The Word says the Earth is fixed and immovable.

So are you going to believe the Word or a telescope?

Quath

Provide quotes please.

 

[cubedbee]

By the same logic, you have to believe the earth does not move around the sun. The Word says the Earth is fixed and immovable.

So are you going to believe the Word or a telescope?

Quath

Provide quotes please.

Psalms 93:1 The LORD reigns, he is robed in majesty;
the LORD is robed in majesty
and is armed with strength.
The world is firmly established;
it cannot be moved.

Are you a Christian who accepts what the Bible says, Heidi or are you a heliocentrist who believes that the Earth moves and orbits the sun? You can't be both according to your logic.

 

[unred typo]

The world is firmly established;
it cannot be moved.

The world is firmly established in it's orbit, it cannot deviate from it’s circuit.

 

[Heidi]

Do you know what the bible means by "world" cubedbee? I suggest you read the bible so you can know what you're arguing against. What the bible and Jesus means by "the world" is people of the world vs. the people of God. That's why it says "wordly things" and the prince of this "world." The bible uses the word "earth" when talking about the physical structure of the earth.

 

[cubedbee]

The world is firmly established;
it cannot be moved.

The orbit of the world is firmly established, it cannot deviate from it’s circuit.

It doesn't say that the orbit can't be moved. It says that the world can't be moved. As Heidi would say, stop falsely adding your interpretation to the Word.

 

[unred typo]

Wow. You're fast. I hit the submit button just when I realized my error. By the time I hit the edit button you had already added your post. This is how it should have read:

The world is firmly established in it's orbit, it cannot deviate from it’s circuit.

 

[cubedbee]

Do you know what the bible means by "world" cubedbee? I suggest you read the bible so you can know what you're arguing against. What the bible and Jesus means by "the world" is people of the world vs. the people of God. That's why it says "wordly things" and the prince of this "world." The bible uses the word "earth" when talking about the physical structure of the earth.

No Heidi, this particular word doesn't mean people, it mean's the earth. Here is a link to an interlinear Bible

http://bible.crosswalk.com/Lexicons/Heb ... ersion=kjv

How would that even make sense if it meant people? People can certainly be moved.

So, try again. That means you're against heliocentrists, right?

 

[cubedbee]

Wow. You're fast. I hit the submit button just when I realized my error. By the time I hit the edit button you had already added your post. This is how it should have read:

The world is firmly established in it's orbit, it cannot deviate from it’s circuit.

That's another interpretation, which Heidi rejects because she just plainly reads the word. It says the world cannot be moved---you cannot believe the world moves around the sun and accept that the Bible is true, according to Heidi.

 

[pearlz]

I think that is a valid question, Karma2Grace. The span of time in which evolutionists assert that man developed from the first primate is very small, at least in terms of the history of Earth. Yet there are many many species which supposedly developed between that time and when the first humans appeared. The human evolution chain is much more complicated than that which has been found in most species.(Just one of many examples of how man is an anomaly within the multiple theories of evolution) This means there must have been at least some significant changes in thousand year periods. Therefore I would expect something significant to have changed in recorded history, at least one alteration. Especially considering that humans have remained isolated from other humans in different climates for many years. In other species we see significant differences in species in different areas. This is not so with humans. Other than skin color, facial structure, or build there are no significant differences among humans.

The races that live in the extreme cold do have some differences. They have the ability to keep their bare hands in freezing water for long periods of time, your's and mine would be lost to frost bite but they deal with it just fine. Its a small difference, but it also is one that is needed for them since they live off the sealife that lives in that freezing water.

The aboriginize live in a climate with extreme heat during the day, and a night that drop into the freezing range, they don't throw a jacket on at night, they have developed a body that regulates thier temperature different than yours and mine. They can sit in their little loin cloth's and be perfectly comfortable on a freezing night. Another small difference, but one necessary for their survival. Like i said, these may seem like small differences, but they are vital ones for their survival.