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Bible Study The Second Book of Moses Called Exodus

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The Second Book of Moses Called
Exodus

Exodus is the record of Israel's birth as a nation. Within the protective "womb" of Egypt, the Jewish family of seventy rapidly multiplies. At the right time, accompanied with severe "birth pains," an infant nation, numbering between two to three million people, is brought into the world where it is divinely protected, fed and nurtured.

The Hebrew title, We'elleh Shemoth, "Now These Are the Names," comes from the first phrase in Ex 1:, Exodus begins with "Now" to show it as a continuation of Genesis. The Greek title is Exodus, a word meaning "exit," "departure," or "going out." The Septuagint uses this word to describe the book by it's key event (see Ex 19:1, "gone out"). In Luke 9:31 and in 2 Peter 1:15, the word exodus speaks of physical death (Jesus and Peter). This embodies Exodus's theme of redemption, because redemption is accomplished only through death. The Latin title is Liber Exodus, "Book of Departure," taken from the Greek title.
 
execellent choice. not my strong hold but i suggest also asking jeff who taught this book for one year in church and i also have this commentary. theres much to learn on this book.
 
Always searching out the Redeemer.

Exodus 17:6

King James Version (KJV)

6 Behold, I will stand before thee there upon the rock in Horeb; and thou shalt smite the rock, and there shall come water out of it, that the people may drink. And Moses did so in the sight of the elders of Israel.

The rock the Redeemer gives forth living water.
 
Always searching out the Redeemer.

Exodus 17:6

King James Version (KJV)

6 Behold, I will stand before thee there upon the rock in Horeb; and thou shalt smite the rock, and there shall come water out of it, that the people may drink. And Moses did so in the sight of the elders of Israel.

The rock the Redeemer gives forth living water.


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Always searching out the Redeemer.

Exodus 17:6

King James Version (KJV)

6 Behold, I will stand before thee there upon the rock in Horeb; and thou shalt smite the rock, and there shall come water out of it, that the people may drink. And Moses did so in the sight of the elders of Israel.

The rock the Redeemer gives forth living water.
he is there before that.
the burning bush it also that too.
 
since end times is more of my thing. im going to tie in exodus with psalms 107 and also matthew 24.

if redemption meant perfection and no death then why does god say that the nation of isreal is his redeemed? that doesnt meant that god wont redeem the earth just that in context it means something that the church somes to have forgotten.
 
since end times is more of my thing. im going to tie in exodus with psalms 107 and also matthew 24.

if redemption meant perfection and no death then why does god say that the nation of isreal is his redeemed? that doesnt meant that god wont redeem the earth just that in context it means something that the church somes to have forgotten.

All of Isreal will be redeemed. You'll have to share because I don't have any idea.
I read both of your scriptures but I still can't answer this question.
 
All of Isreal will be redeemed. You'll have to share because I don't have any idea.
I read both of your scriptures but I still can't answer this question.


well i wont go there too much, but in matthew it says look up for thy redemption draweth nigh and yet is mention isreal destruction. and also jews perssecuting christians and that all ended for the most part in ad 70. the word reedeem means to purchase. ie the near kinsmen redeemer.

we have been redeemed by the blood, isreal was reedeemed by the blood the firstborn of egypt and the signs and deliverance from pharoah. they were set free from the bondsman that held them. its not hard to see that for christians. rome did persecute but if you notice the growth of the church after ad 70 it went far.

so i have been told.with the idea of the redeemer from eve per genesis it means that we have been redeemed now and that has been started at the cross and will be finished when he returns. this is my position. this is the messianic era.
 
Ahh, Shemot, "The book of names"

Exodus 1:1 Now these are the names of the children of Israel, which came into Egypt; every man and his household came with Jacob.

We know that names are very important in the Bible. Actually, names are connected to the very soul of a person...

Take 10 minutes and have a listen and you'll find that it's much more than what's at the surface of your statment, "The Hebrew title, We'elleh Shemoth, "Now These Are the Names," comes from the first phrase in Ex 1:, Exodus begins with "Now" to show it as a continuation of Genesis."

http://www.chabad.org/multimedia/media_cdo/aid/344889/jewish/Shemot-Book-of-Names.htm
 
well i wont go there too much, but in matthew it says look up for thy redemption draweth nigh and yet is mention isreal destruction. and also jews perssecuting christians and that all ended for the most part in ad 70. the word reedeem means to purchase. ie the near kinsmen redeemer.

we have been redeemed by the blood, isreal was reedeemed by the blood the firstborn of egypt and the signs and deliverance from pharoah. they were set free from the bondsman that held them. its not hard to see that for christians. rome did persecute but if you notice the growth of the church after ad 70 it went far.

so i have been told.with the idea of the redeemer from eve per genesis it means that we have been redeemed now and that has been started at the cross and will be finished when he returns. this is my position. this is the messianic era.

Got it, I think. Thanks for explaining
 
Ahh, Shemot, "The book of names"

Exodus 1:1 Now these are the names of the children of Israel, which came into Egypt; every man and his household came with Jacob.

We know that names are very important in the Bible. Actually, names are connected to the very soul of a person...

Take 10 minutes and have a listen and you'll find that it's much more than what's at the surface of your statment, "The Hebrew title, We'elleh Shemoth, "Now These Are the Names," comes from the first phrase in Ex 1:, Exodus begins with "Now" to show it as a continuation of Genesis."

http://www.chabad.org/multimedia/media_cdo/aid/344889/jewish/Shemot-Book-of-Names.htm

I listened and found it very interesting. The Jews have a different perspective then we are ever taught as gentiles.
 
I listened and found it very interesting. The Jews have a different perspective then we are ever taught as gentiles.
if you only knew. you can also read their tanach their and acess the rashi commentary. i use him alot when i want to post jewish thoughts but i always back it up with either a messianic jewish source or adam clarke. the later while a gentile source is way knowledgable on that.

come channukah i will post the links and stories on that .
 
I listened and found it very interesting. The Jews have a different perspective then we are ever taught as gentiles.

Yes they do, and once I found that out I started to realize the dialog that was going between Jesus and the rest of the Jews. As a gentile, there is so much in scripture that we miss. Why? I think in part because we dismiss so much of the Old Testament. Imagine for a moment actually having to live by the Torah. It's one thing to read it and something else entirely to live it out. Just look at the whole love your neighbor thing. At times it's pretty tough.

Anyway, I've listened to that audio a few dozen times and every time I get something new out of it. Glad you liked it.
 
Always searching out the Redeemer.

Exodus 17:6

King James Version (KJV)

6 Behold, I will stand before thee there upon the rock in Horeb; and thou shalt smite the rock, and there shall come water out of it, that the people may drink. And Moses did so in the sight of the elders of Israel.

The rock the Redeemer gives forth living water.

Imagine this if you will. Horeb (Sinai) is about 20 miles from Rephidim where the rest of the Israelite were camped. That's an enormous amount of water running a hefty distance across the desert to reach the Isrealites.

And here come them greedy Amalekites wanting what isn't theirs and trying to take it by force, thus attempting to nullifying the LORD.
 
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Some people are so moral that they would risk the lives of the own flesh and blood rather than do anything wrong. For example; my favorite "legalist" cartoon depicts a man and his family stopped at a red light while huge landslide boulders are within seconds of crushing his car, his wife, his children, and the family dog. While they're all yelping, bellowing, and screaming in tears begging daddy to move the car; he calmly points out that it would be against the law to pull forward before the light turns green.

In Exodus 1:15-22, a post-Joseph Egyptian pharaoh strictly charged the Hebrew midwives to terminate all the baby boys upon arrival. But instead, the midwives lied through their teeth and told the pharaoh that Hebrew women deliver babies on their own without midwife assistance.

It was a bald-faced lie; but did God punish the midwives for it? Haw! On the contrary, He rewarded them.

There is such a thing as mitigating circumstances; especially when it comes to the safety and welfare of human life. For example; Jesus and his men were known quite well for breaking the Sabbath; but the Lord's response was: the Sabbath was made for man; not man for the Sabbath.

To put that into a modern context: here in my region of Oregon, a good deal of the fast food, the farm labor, the yard maintenance, and many of the car washes and gas stations are manned by Hispanic immigrants scratching and surviving on a shoe-string budget, with no health insurance, supporting spouses and little children. Some weeks they sail so close to the wind that they're forced to choose between buying gasoline or food: it's that tight. Should I condemn those families for working on a Sabbath? God forbid! And if you saw them out there in the boiling sun picking berries for a few bucks a day, or pressure washing a house in the middle of August; you wouldn't either.

Buen Camino
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†. Ex 1:8 . . A new king came to the throne of Egypt who knew nothing about Joseph or what he had done.

It's amazing that anyone in those days wouldn't know anything about Joseph and how he rescued so many people from famine; but time has a way of obliterating one's fame; and quite a bit had gone by since Jacob came into Egypt. At that time the people of Israel numbered less than eighty souls. On the night of the passover, they numbered something like 600,000; and that's not counting the women and children. (In that day, a minor was anybody under the age of twenty; which tells me it was a pretty stupid move to lower America's voting age to eighteen)

Some have suggested that the new king wasn't an Egyptian; and if true, that would help explain his attitude towards Joseph's people. I mean, how many of us would be disposed to mistreat Wernher Von Braun's kin? Don't know who he was? Well; he was a German rocket scientist involved in designing the buzz bombs that pelted London during World War II. The US Government brought him here after the war and he became a chief instrument in America's space race and it's ICBM program. Without Mr. Braun, Neal Armstrong likely wouldn't have been the first man to step foot on the moon; and President Kennedy wouldn't have possessed enough leverage to dissuade Russia from constructing missile silos in Cuba.

Still; it seems somebody somewhere would have constructed at least one stele to help keep Joseph's legacy alive and thus prevent Egypt from losing respect for his people; whom, up to this time, were very productive members of society and posed no threat to either the central government's stability, or to the nation's security, or to Egypt's economic development. Joseph's people were in fact a really big plus in Egypt. Somebody better educated in psychiatry than me is going to have to explain this monarch's mentality because he behaved more like a thug than a statesman.

Buen Camino
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†. Ex 1:8-10 . .Then a new king, who did not know about Joseph, came to power in Egypt. Look; he said to his people: the Israelites have become much too numerous for us. Come, we must deal shrewdly with them or they will become even more numerous and, if war breaks out, will join our enemies, fight against us and leave the country.

In other words: Pharaoh Thug-O wasn't worried about Jacob's people conquering Egypt and taking it over. No, he was concerned about them vacating the premises. And why would he even care if they left? Because they were a source of some of the finest blue collar tradesmen in the world; that's why.

†. Ex 31:1-6 . .The Lord spoke unto Moses, saying: See, I have called by name Bezaleel the son of Uri, the son of Hur, of the tribe of Judah: and I have filled him with the spirit of God, in wisdom, and in understanding, and in knowledge, and in all manner of workmanship, to devise cunning works, to work in gold, and in silver, and in brass, and in cutting of stones, to set them, and in carving of timber, to work in all manner of workmanship. and I, behold, I have given with him Aholiab, the son of Ahisamach, of the tribe of Dan: and in the hearts of all that are wise hearted I have put wisdom, that they may make all that I have commanded you.

I worked as a professional welder for forty years. Some years prior to retiring, I worked for a while in a sheet metal shop whose owner threatened to summarily fire anybody who scratched the finished concrete floor in his pristine new facility. I was aghast. That self-centered moron was totally unappreciative that the skilled tradesmen in his place of business were the very reason behind his company's success, not to mention the source of his wealth. Some of those men had been on the payroll for decades and could produce his products under bid and right to size and quality like nobody's business. What a fool; I thought to myself. He's even dumber than the idiot who killed the goose who laid golden eggs if he can't see that his employees weren't commodities as easily replaced as shopping for a quart of milk or a loaf of bread.

A machinist friend of mine recounted an experience working with his dad as a young apprentice in a machine shop while he was in high school. His dad purchased a spiffy new end mill and assigned my friend to work with it. Well; he was very fond of that mill; and at the close of every work day, he wiped it spotless with fresh rags and covered its work table with plastic sheeting to protect it from dust. His dad got disgusted; and after locking a tool in the mill's chuck, cut a ragged groove in the work table and then told his son; Okay; now make me some money with it. (chuckle) My friend never forgot the lesson that tools, equipment, and facilities are expendable; while profits and skilled labor aren't.

Although the Jews weren't in on building the pyramids, Jacob's people were very in on constructing other things for Egypt.

†. Ex 1:11 . .They built for Pharaoh treasure cities: Pithom and Raamses.

The Hebrew word for "treasure" is mickenah (mis-ken-aw') which means: a magazine. Webster's defines a magazine as: a place where goods and/or supplies are stored; viz: warehouses and/or storage facilities for grain, wine, oil, lumber, stones, bricks, weapons, and/or whatever.

†. Ex 1:10-12 . . Come on, let us deal wisely with them; lest they multiply . . . therefore they did set over them taskmasters to afflict them with their burdens . . . but the more they afflicted them, the more they multiplied and grew.

Silly man. Everybody knows that underprivileged folk tend to have larger families than those of leisure and wealth.

Note: Jacob's people were not only skilled in the blue collar trades; but also fishing, animal husbandry, and agriculture. (Gen 47:3, Num 11:5). So they weren't a burden to Egypt; no, they were self-sufficient, and contributed quite a bit to the land's gross national product.

Buen Camino
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Baby Moses

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Ex 2:1-8 records Moses' adoption into Egyptian royalty. His name is Egyptian, and he kept it his whole life rather than exchange it for an Hebrew name.

Curiously; there's no record of either his mother or his father naming their little boy at birth; and I seriously suspect it was because naming creates strong attachments; viz: they had already pre-decided not to keep him; but the way the story goes, it appears to me that they didn't entirely abandon the little guy because Moses' mother put him in a location where Pharaoh's daughter was sure to find him; and when she opened up his little ark, and he wept, her feminine maternity feelings kicked in.

Moses' sister Miriam (after whom Jesus' mother is named) had been keeping watch over him from a distance. Right then she rushed forward and recommended the baby's own mother to wet-nurse the tyke. Moses stayed with his biological mother till he was weaned; which in those days was anywhere from two to five years old. By that time, Moses and his mother were no doubt very bonded and I can only imagine the pain it must have caused that woman to let go of her little boy by then; but one thing's for sure, Moses was way better off with the princess than with his parents. He would have ended up in the brickyards serving Pharaoh with rigor, but in the palace, Moses had it very, very good; and he got college too, with no student loans attached.

†. Acts 7:22 . . Moses was educated in all the wisdom of the Egyptians; and was powerful in speech and action.

The ironic part of Moses' childhood is that his adopted grandfather decreed all male Hebrew babies terminated; and lo! look what the cat dragged in! Oh how Pharaoh must have hated that boy; but what could he do? It was his own daughter's precious little child; and also his own grandson too; maybe not by blood, but certainly by law, and adoption is just as binding as natural birth; which means that had Pharaoh died, Moses had a right to inherit.

Buen Camino
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