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The son of perdition

Agree.The ten horns are Islamic.
According to scripture ,they take Jerusalem and burn it.
What I findintetesting is they atetoldto in the quran and hadith.
 
Shilohsfoal said:
Agree.The ten horns are Islamic.
According to scripture ,they take Jerusalem and burn it.
What I findintetesting is they atetoldto in the quran and hadith.
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Can you give us scripture on that please, both in the Bible and the Quran, Thank you
 
Shilohsfoal said:
Agree.The ten horns are Islamic.
According to scripture ,they take Jerusalem and burn it.
What I findintetesting is they atetoldto in the quran and hadith.
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hello Shilohsfoal, dirtfarmer here

Do you believe that the Psalm 83 nations are the 10 nation confederacy ?
 
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for_his_glory said:
There are only seven remaining nations that exist today, but yet fall under the heading of four Empires as the last standing major Empire is the Roman Empire that still exist today even in Jerusalem. This is the little horn found in Daniel 8:9-14, 23-27. Iron represents the stronghold this nation had and even today as it is revived from its deadly wound back in . Daniel chapter 2 mentions the iron element of this empire that it to will be divided and broken as God will set up a kingdom that will never be destroyed.

The ten horns represent the nations the Roman Empire scattered to when the deadly wound was put upon them in 1798 by General Berthier of France , Daniel 7:23-25. The wound was healed in 1929 by Mussolini who revived this Empire so no, it is not a Turkish Empire as even the Muslims will hand over the Dome of the Rock to this revived Roman Empire.
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hello for_his_glory, dirtfarmer here

You do know that the Roman empire was divided into the western empire with Rome as it's capital and the eastern empire with Constantinople as it capital? The western fell in 476 AD and the eastern fell in 1453 when it was conquered by the Ottoman Turks and became an Islamic state. The western official language was Latin and the eastern was Greek. The Ottomans ruled until the 19th century and was dismantled by the Belfour Treaty. The league of Arab States, which consist of 10 middle eastern countries that have form a pact to join military forces.

I believe the "league of Arab States" is the beginning of the restoration of the kingdom that the tribulation time will happen and will usher
in the millennium.
A very brief picture of what I believe is about to come.
 
If you have studied the hadith then you would know Islam teaches the dajjal and his millitary shall occupy Jerusalem and they are to fight against that millitary.They believe Jesus will kill the dajjal near the gate of Lud.The drought shall last three years the it willbe time for jihad.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Al-Masih_ad-Dajjal

According to the hadith Muslims conquer the dajjals millitary that occupies Jerusalem and all the world converts to Islam.
According to the bible,those Muslims are destroyed and cast into a lake of fire after they take Jerusalem.
 
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dirtfarmer said:
hello for_his_glory, dirtfarmer here

You do know that the Roman empire was divided into the western empire with Rome as it's capital and the eastern empire with Constantinople as it capital? The western fell in 476 AD and the eastern fell in 1453 when it was conquered by the Ottoman Turks and became an Islamic state. The western official language was Latin and the eastern was Greek. The Ottomans ruled until the 19th century and was dismantled by the Belfour Treaty. The league of Arab States, which consist of 10 middle eastern countries that have form a pact to join military forces.

I believe the "league of Arab States" is the beginning of the restoration of the kingdom that the tribulation time will happen and will usher
in the millennium.
A very brief picture of what I believe is about to come.
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The League of Arab States being Islamic are not the same ten mentioned in Daniel 7.
The beast rises up out of the sea, Rev 13, as the sea here is symbolic of people and nations as in a sea of humanity, Daniel Chapter 7:1-8; Revelation 17:15. The seven heads are that of the Babylonian Empire, Medo/Persian Empire and Grecian Empire and Roman Empire. The ten horns represent the nations the Roman Empire scattered to when the deadly wound was put upon them, Daniel 7:23-25.

These ten nations were the Anglo-Saxons (English), the Franks (French), Suevi (Portuguese), Visigoths (Spanish), Burgundians (Swiss), Alemanni (Germans), Lombards (Italians), Ostrogoths, Heruli, and the Vandals in northern Africa. The last three being Ostrogoths, Heruli, and the Vandals had already been destroyed by the Roman Empire before their deadly wound came in 1798.

The beast out of the earth, Rev 13:11-18, is the revived Roman Empire (mystery Babylon) which causes man to take its mark, Daniel 7:24, 25 and another shall rise after them; and he shall be diverse from the first, He will think to change times and laws: and they shall be given into his hand until a time and times and the dividing of time.
 
Shilohsfoal said:
If you have studied the hadith then you would know Islam teaches the dajjal and his millitary shall occupy Jerusalem and they are to fight against that millitary.They believe Jesus will kill the dajjal near the gate of Lud.The drought shall last three years the it willbe time for jihad.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Al-Masih_ad-Dajjal

According to the hadith Muslims conquer the dajjals millitary that occupies Jerusalem and all the world converts to Islam.
According to the bible,those Muslims are destroyed and cast into a lake of fire after they take Jerusalem.
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I asked you a question in post #22 that you have yet to answer. Without scriptural fact I will not take just the word of another. Where does it say in scripture that the world will convert to Islam. Do you really think that Christians will convert!!!
 
for_his_glory said:
I asked you a question in post #22 that you have yet to answer. Without scriptural fact I will not take just the word of another. Where does it say in scripture that the world will convert to Islam. Do you really think that Christians will convert!!!
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I said.The hadith teaches the world will coinvert to Islam.
Obviously you know nothing about Islam or the ten,horns.
Oh well.After armegeddon ,youmight fiqure it out.Those kings come from east. Not Europe.
http://biblehub.com/revelation/16-12.htm
 
Shilohsfoal said:
I said.The hadith teaches the world will coinvert to Islam.
Obviously you know nothing about Islam or the ten,horns.
Oh well.After armegeddon ,youmight fiqure it out.Those kings come from east. Not Europe.
http://biblehub.com/revelation/16-12.htm
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The Euphrates River stretches approximately 1800 miles beginning in Turkey flowing down through Syria and Iraq where the great walled city of Babylon once stood before it was destroyed by God and never inhabited again, Isaiah chapter 45; Jeremiah chapters 50, 51; Daniel chapter 5. This great river separates the land mass between Israel and all the eastern countries and ends in Kuwait City at the mouth of the Persian Gulf. The Euphrates receives most of its water in the form of rainfall, melting snow and a few tributaries along the way.

God spoke of the latter days that he would dry up the Nile River and the Euphrates River to prepare a highway for the scattered tribes of Judah to return back to Jerusalem, Isaiah 11:11-16; 27:12, 13; Jeremiah 50:4, 5. The kings of the east, 1 Peter 2:9; Revelation 1:6; 5:10, are the faithful Jewish remnant of God’s people that He will gather back to Israel as they reclaim the inheritance of all the land from the Nile River to the Euphrates River that was promised to Abraham and his seed.

They are the faithful Jewish remnant of the house of Judah whom from the time of the Babylonian captivity in 586 B.C. and the Egyptian captivity of Judah in 609 B.C. have stayed in the same lands they became accustom to, but now God will deliver them back to their own land as they are joined together once again with the house of Israel, Ezekiel 37:22. This takes place when Jesus returns and mystery Babylon is exposed then we He cast the beast and false prophet into the lake of fire, Rev 19.

(cross-reference for the remnant of God: Genesis 15:18; Isaiah 11:11, 12; Isaiah 27:12,13; 35; 43:1-7; 52:1-10; Jeremiah 3:18; 16:14,15; Joel 3:2-7; and Zechariah 10:9-11; 2 Kings 23:29-37, 2 Chronicles 35:20-27)
 
Ancient Babylon was never destroyed.It was abandoned.
History
Babylon was deserted as the Greeks fought over the city.The residents fled for thier safety.

Why are you trying to distort history now?
 
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dirtfarmer said:
hello Shilohsfoal, dirtfarmer here

Do you believe that the Psalm 83 nations are the 10 nation confederacy ?
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Yes.
Would you like to have a conversation about these eleven horns of the middle east outside of this thread?

You can,watch them appear near the end of this video.This includes the little horn Daniel wrote of .
 
Shilohsfoal said:
Ancient Babylon was never destroyed.It was abandoned.
History
Babylon was deserted as the Greeks fought over the city.The residents fled for thier safety.

Why are you trying to distort history now?
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Read Jeremiah 51:55-64 God destroyed Babylon.
 
for_his_glory said:
Read Jeremiah 51:55-64 God destroyed Babylon.
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I can read history.Ancient Babylon was not destroyed ,it was abandoended ,it fell into decay from years of neglect after its residents left and relocated.Youfont understand the prophecies your reading.
 
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Shilohsfoal said:
Yes.
Would you like to have a conversation about these eleven horns of the middle east outside of this thread?

You can,watch them appear near the end of this video.This includes the little horn Daniel wrote of .
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hello Shilohsfoal, dirtfarmer here

I am always open to learn. I don't know if I know enough to carry on a conversation. I would be willing to listen and learn.
 
Shilohsfoal said:
I can read history.Ancient Babylon was not destroyed ,it was abandoended ,it fell into decay from years of neglect after its residents left and relocated.Youfont understand the prophecies your reading.
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Babylon has been destroyed and rebuilt many times as it fell into many different conquerors with Cyrus the king of Persia being the last one.

Isaiah 47 was a prophecy about Babylons destruction and Jeremiah 51:55-64 was the prophecy fulfilled as God destroyed Babylon for her evil ways just like He did with Sodom and Gomorrah. It was through Cyrus who was the king of Persia who decreed the return of the exiles (Jews) back to Jerusalem to rebuild it and later Cyrus destroyed Babylon.

There have been three other Empires that have risen up from the Babylonian Empire with the Roman Empire being the last one and still very much alive today. The son of perdition will rise up out of this Empire when the Muslims hand the Dome of the Rock over to this Empire as even now it is being refurbished inside for this purpose.

Seven remaining nations that still exist today that branched out from the original Babylonian Empire:

Babylonian Empire:
(Iraq) The lion represents the winged lions that guarded the royal places of Babylon.

Medo – Persian Empire:
(Iran) The ribs of the bear are part of the consuming greed that devours the first empire.

Grecian Empire:
(Greece, Turkey, Syria, Egypt) Four wings of the leopard described the swiftness of this empire that ran from 334-331BC. It wrestled world dominion from Medo-Persia. After the death of Alexander the Great the kingdom was divided into four minor kingdoms that continued as prominent factors in world politics until the Roman Empire gathered it back as one kingdom.

Roman Empire: (little horn, Daniel 8:9-14, 23-27)
Iron represents the stronghold this nation had. Daniel chapter 2 mentions the iron element of this empire that it to will be divided and broken as God will set up a kingdom that will never be destroyed.
 
for_his_glory said:
Babylon has been destroyed and rebuilt many times as it fell into many different conquerors with Cyrus the king of Persia being the last one.

Isaiah 47 was a prophecy about Babylons destruction and Jeremiah 51:55-64 was the prophecy fulfilled as God destroyed Babylon for her evil ways just like He did with Sodom and Gomorrah. It was through Cyrus who was the king of Persia who decreed the return of the exiles (Jews) back to Jerusalem to rebuild it and later Cyrus destroyed Babylon.

There have been three other Empires that have risen up from the Babylonian Empire with the Roman Empire being the last one and still very much alive today. The son of perdition will rise up out of this Empire when the Muslims hand the Dome of the Rock over to this Empire as even now it is being refurbished inside for this purpose.

Seven remaining nations that still exist today that branched out from the original Babylonian Empire:

Babylonian Empire:
(Iraq) The lion represents the winged lions that guarded the royal places of Babylon.

Medo – Persian Empire:
(Iran) The ribs of the bear are part of the consuming greed that devours the first empire.

Grecian Empire:
(Greece, Turkey, Syria, Egypt) Four wings of the leopard described the swiftness of this empire that ran from 334-331BC. It wrestled world dominion from Medo-Persia. After the death of Alexander the Great the kingdom was divided into four minor kingdoms that continued as prominent factors in world politics until the Roman Empire gathered it back as one kingdom.

Roman Empire: (little horn, Daniel 8:9-14, 23-27)
Iron represents the stronghold this nation had. Daniel chapter 2 mentions the iron element of this empire that it to will be divided and broken as God will set up a kingdom that will never be destroyed.
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You cant change history.You can lie about it but you cant change it.Ancient Babylon was never destroyed. It was abandoned and fell into ruin.
This is a fact that you cant change.
https://www.quora.com/Who-or-what-destroyed-the-ancient-city-of-Babylon-after-the-1st-Century

Unlike Sodom or even Hiroshima, Ancient Babylon was not destroyed.It was abandoned because it was to difficult to live there.
 
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Shilohsfoal said:
The son of perdition (destruction) is the one who causes mass destruction .He orders his millitary to use the abomination that causes desolation which annihilates many people.
He uses it during the war of armeggedon.
http://biblehub.com/daniel/11-44.htm
All those who follow islam in the middle east going to have a very bad day.They should have never messed with the US and Israel.
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Greetings in Christ our Savior,
I believe it will be the Lord's strength that will defeat Israel's enemies at the "Battle of Armageddon" (Rev. 16:14- ) (Rev. 19:11-16; 19-21) It will be The Lord and His Mighty Army!

In God's Eternal Mercy
Douglas Summers
 
Do you people mean that all those years of listening to Jack van Impe and Perry Stone and the like is false, that they have all changed their prophecies to Islam now?
Maybe in the end it will be some guy from Argentina who will lead the way.....
 
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