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The soul of man

WIP said:
How do you know that?
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Genesis 1:14 kjv
And God said, Let there be lights in the firmament of the heaven to divide the day from the night; and let them be for signs, and for seasons, and for days, and years

Now I plead that I see through a glass darkly ( no complete understanding).
I am not completely blind either.
Moderation and temperance are some of my directives.
We use a callender based on sun moon stars I guess.

24 hour days are used and shown in Genesis 1:14

I do not know that, but am taught that from several sources.

I have an opinion on days 1,2,3 but someone else may have a scripture to define ages. I am not closed minded to bible study. I probably have a moderate view.

LOL
Mississippi redneck
eddif
 
eddif said:
Genesis 1:14 kjv
And God said, Let there be lights in the firmament of the heaven to divide the day from the night; and let them be for signs, and for seasons, and for days, and years

Now I plead that I see through a glass darkly ( no complete understanding).
I am not completely blind either.
Moderation and temperance are some of my directives.
We use a callender based on sun moon stars I guess.

24 hour days are used and shown in Genesis 1:14

I do not know that, but am taught that from several sources.

I have an opinion on days 1,2,3 but someone else may have a scripture to define ages. I am not closed minded to bible study. I probably have a moderate view.

LOL
Mississippi redneck
eddif
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But how do we know the day was 24 hours. We only know that a day was one period of light and one period of darkness. Just a thought.
 
WIP said:
But how do we know the day was 24 hours. We only know that a day was one period of light and one period of darkness. Just a thought.
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LOL
We know day 1 was a dark and a light period undefined in length as to time
We know day 2 was a dark and a light period undefined in length as to time
We know day 3 was a dark and a light period undefined in defined in length as to time

Day 4 was a definition as to a heavenly creation that would have a dual purpose:
A. A set division of day and night (varying slightly by elliptical soltace - December 21st being the shortest light time).
B. Signs:
a. Spiritual sabbaths, holy days, first fruits
b. Winter, summer, crops

Starting at day five time (as we now know it) would be defined / exist.

As an ignorant redneck it took me decades to see what little I see. This is not the whole picture.

Tell me the hours or millions of realative years that happened on days one two and thre. LOL

Papa Zoom just punched my teaching button. My button will take me from a deer hunt to a rabbit hunt rat now.

But the point is:
Every century or so we do see something in the Bible in a new light.

I am going to push my off button.

eddif.
 
Randy said:
Zech 12:1The Lord, who stretches out the heavens, who lays the foundation of the earth, and who forms the human spirit within a person
Not preformed and put into the body but formed within
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Again you refuse to deal with the issue I raised of your reader-response, postmodern deconstructionist interpretation. You changed the topic.
 
OzSpen said:
Again you refuse to deal with the issue I raised of your reader-response, postmodern deconstructionist interpretation. You changed the topic.
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No I just take into account all that is written as a guide not a postmodern approach. The subject was the souls of man in regard to immortality with some bringing up the possibility of preexistence our our soul before the body was conceived.
Jesus did the same "it is also written..."
 
eddif said:
Do not have to solve it.
Day 4 is when 24 hour days were started.
eddif
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At the beginning you had a planet filled with waters. How can you have water without a heat source such as our sun? Water freezes at 32 degrees and space is -454.81F?
I would state I believe life on earth is young. But I don't know how old the universe or earth is either. I believe God created both and thats were the importance is not in the timeline.
 
Randy said:
No I just take into account all that is written as a guide not a postmodern approach. The subject was the souls of man in regard to immortality with some bringing up the possibility of preexistence our our soul before the body was conceived.
Jesus did the same "it is also written..."
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Hang in there Randy.
Hebrews 9:1 KJV
Then verily the first covenant had also ordinances of divine service, and a worldly sanctuary.

I tend to agree that you can stay on the discussion of the soul of man.

The only way (IMHO) to keep the soul of man immortal was the tree of life. Of course Adam was cut off from that tree.

At a point we just have to move on to the 2nd covenant if we wish to find a way to deal with eternal life.

Of course dealing with the spirit of the new man is outside this discussion. Unless you slip a little new man into the soul of man discusdion without declaring how it got there (which may generate the pre existing discussion). When you slip the eternal state that Jesus accomplished for the new covenant into the first covenant; you just might get a little confusion, for some folks.

eddif
 
Randy said:
At the beginning you had a planet filled with waters. How can you have water without a heat source such as our sun? Water freezes at 32 degrees and space is -454.81F?
I would state I believe life on earth is young. But I don't know how old the universe or earth is either. I believe God created both and thats were the importance is not in the timeline.
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So we are left with some mysteries.

There was a deperation (edit seperation) of water and land.
There was a time clock made.

So the soul of man has some mysteries.
There was a new covenant that resolved some of the confusion mix of soul and spirit.

Hidden in the natural creation, are hints on how to understand The things of God.

eddif
 
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Randy said:
How can you have water without a heat source such as our sun?
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You can’t have liquid water without the proper temperature and pressure for enough H2O molecules to become liquid. The surface of the Earth is very much a ‘sweet spot’ for liquid water, especially around sea level at its equator. And very much so because of the amount of solar radiation the Earth’s surface currently receives. Though not the only source of Earth’s surface heat, solar radiation (on average) accounts for many orders of magnitude more heat on the surface than does radioactive decay.

Is your point that if there were no Solar radiation upon the Earth, that there would be no liquid water upon the Earth?
 
chessman said:
You can’t have liquid water without the proper temperature and pressure for enough H2O molecules to become liquid. The surface of the Earth is very much a ‘sweet spot’ for liquid water, especially around sea level at its equator. And very much so because of the amount of solar radiation the Earth’s surface currently receives. Though not the only source of Earth’s surface heat, solar radiation (on average) accounts for many orders of magnitude more heat on the surface than does radioactive decay.

Is your point that if there were no Solar radiation upon the Earth, that there would be no liquid water upon the Earth?
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My point was that our sun was in place at that beginning.
 
Revelation 21:23 KJV
And the city had no need of the sun, neither of the moon, to shine in it: for the glory of God did lighten it, and the Lamb is the light thereof.

When God is present there is light, and he can declare let there be light. Just as all authority being given to Jesus (Jesus becomes light).

eddif
 
eddif said:
So we are left with some mysteries.

There was a deperation (edit seperation) of water and land.
There was a time clock made.

So the soul of man has some mysteries.
There was a new covenant that resolved some of the confusion mix of soul and spirit.

Hidden in the natural creation, are hints on how to understand The things of God.

eddif
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Mysteries in regard to the timeline. The universe is older than 6000-10000 years. Life on a earth that was made/formed to support such life is another matter for I think in that context it was done rapidly and is young.
 
eddif said:
Revelation 21:23 KJV
And the city had no need of the sun, neither of the moon, to shine in it: for the glory of God did lighten it, and the Lamb is the light thereof.

When God is present there is light, and he can declare let there be light. Just as all authority being given to Jesus (Jesus becomes light).

eddif
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The context I speak of was heat source not light.
 
Randy said:
My point was that our sun was in place at that beginning.
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In place and radiating it’s energy upon the Earth sustaining H2O in a liquid state.

Likewise, WRT the Son, has The Son been radiating the glory and essence of God for as long as God’s been in place?
 
Randy said:
Mysteries in regard to the timeline. The universe is older than 6000-10000 years. Life on a earth that was made/formed to support such life is another matter for I think in that context it was done rapidly and is young.
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Young on:
Days 5,,6,7 till today.

Days 1,2,3, we can only speculate.

eddif
 
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