The Trespasser.

[Douglas Summers]

Then are you angry with those whom God called to go to seminary, and study the Word of God? No? But going to a seminary does not make you a born again believer. God did not call us to debate the Gospel was once delivered by Christ and the Apostles, but to deliver (teach) and observe the Gospel of God. Seminaries are denominational also. There are errors in the NT that are taught as doctrines and have led to gatherings, calling themselves a Church. (Mark 16:15-20) is not in the original Mark texts. Yet there are a lot of dead people that based the Gospel on handling snakes, but I don't see them drinking any pioson though! Studying the word of God through the influence of the doctrines of men is why there is no peace.

Are you aware that there are other ways to look at Scripture, each with valid but unique view points? Of course I'am aware. That is on the foundation of sinking sand, and it started with Satan (Gen. 3:1-6). There are no, "other ways to look at Scripture", or "valid view points", For there is no validity to them...ever! And if you believe it, you are subject to every wind of doctrine, picking and choosing what you want to believe, and then trying to get others to believe what you believe. Only the Spirit of God will teach the "born again believer". You probably ignore the title "born again believer" as just a phrase thrown around with no meaning, but you would be mistaken, Because, You MUST be Born Again.....Really!

Just 2 questions from curiosity: Have you ever read/studied any book on systematic theology? Have you ever studied any course from any Christian school of higher education, either on line or in person?

No, I do not really study the Bible through other peoples publications. I studied the Bible in all it's parts: analytically, Historically, Doctrinal, And by the "Basic Division of the Scriptures". That means: The Pentateuch Books, The Historical Books, The poetical, The Prophetic pre-exile, Prophetic in exile and Prophetic post exile.
In The NT the study is: Doctrinal, Church order (ministry), Church Truth, Christian life, The course and End of the Age, and Prophetical. I studied Bible at Moody Bible Institute and did all my own research, but the Spiritual trials and teachings were personally by the Lord.

 

[Douglas Summers]

Please be specific, naming names and organizations. If you do that, maybe some here will agree with your posts, which are now seeming to be rants than discussions.

It is only "rant" if you don't know the difference. Specifically, it is all those in any denomination that have to do works to be saved, and that Jesus is not Son of God. Self reformation is described in (Matt. 12:43-45)

 

[By Grace]

No, I do not really study the Bible through other peoples publications.

Did you teach yourself to read?
Did you teach yourself to multiply or divide numbers?
Did you teach yourself biology?
Did you teach yourself plane geometry?

These are all subjects we learn in elementary, and high schools, and my point is that we ALL need to have someone who is more advanced than we are to graduate from high school, and to be capable of earning a decent wage.

I studied the Bible in all it's parts: analytically, Historically, Doctrinal, And by the "Basic Division of the Scriptures". That means: The Pentateuch Books, The Historical Books, The poetical, The Prophetic pre-exile, Prophetic in exile and Prophetic post exile.

Did you do that in their original languages? How did you handle a new term, or a concept that is taught in Scripture?
Have you ever used a harmony of the Gospels? (If you have a study Bible, such as the Thompson Chain Reference that is in the back.) Or ever use A Harmony of Samuel, Kings, and Chronicles by William Day Crockett? Those are simple tools that list the events in the Gospels and in the 6 books listed in the OT in chronological order.

What Bible version did you use? Every version that anyone uses is translated by some people who recognized by other experts as having sufficient education to take the original words of the Bible, and turn it into English, or other languages.

The NT the study is: Doctrinal, Church order (ministry), Church Truth, Christian life,

Did you create those divisions in your own head, or did you borrow them from someone else?
My point is that we all were taught by others. There is no exception to that, therefore IMHO for you to claim to be self-taught is not in keeping with the past of any of us may be bordering on self-deception.

Specifically, it is all those in any denomination that have to do works to be saved, and that Jesus is not Son of God. Self reformation is described in (Matt. 12:43-45)

There is nothing I can say about about that excepting that you are using a unique phrase to condemn others in churches that are your own, and that I find it hard to reconcile that with what Jesus said there.

Therefore, I shall bother you no more.

 

[Douglas Summers]

There is nothing I can say about about that excepting that you are using a unique phrase to condemn others in churches that are your own, and that I find it hard to reconcile that with what Jesus said there.

Therefore, I shall bother you no more.

You need the Lord in your life.

 

[WIP]

Okay, this is getting too personal and off topic.

 

[Douglas Summers]

Okay, this is getting too personal and off topic.

Hi WIP, I was not off topic. Grace thinks that I need to be educated a certain way and by certain publications. We all need the Lord in our life, that is our teacher into Spiritual things. Here is the proof text that has confounded many of religious people. (John 7:10-18) (1 John 2:18-21) (1 John 4:1-7) (John Chapter 16) ( 1 Cor. 2:9-16) along with Chapter 3. I'am a witness to these Scriptures as they have applied to me. We need the Lord in our lives. These last days are void of Christ's mercy and amazing grace in the Church and have been replaced with pride and self. We desperately need eyes to see and ears to hear the Lord speak. The world will always be like it is till the Lord comes, that is expected. But it is the Church that is beginning to look like the world.

 

[Douglas Summers]

Did you teach yourself to read?
Did you teach yourself to multiply or divide numbers?
Did you teach yourself biology?
Did you teach yourself plane geometry?

Grace, You think that I need to be educated a certain way and by certain publications. We all need the Lord in our life, that is our teacher into Spiritual things. Here is the proof text that has confounded many of religious people. (John 7:10-18) (1 John 2:18-21) (1 John 4:1-7) (John Chapter 16) ( 1 Cor. 2:9-16) along with Chapter 3. I'am a witness to these Scriptures as they have applied to me. We need the Lord in our lives. These last days are void of Christ's mercy and amazing grace in the Church and have been replaced with pride and self. We desperately need eyes to see and ears to hear the Lord speak. The world will always be like it is till the Lord comes, that is expected. But it is the Church that is beginning to look like the world.

 

[Mike]

Hi WIP, I was not off topic. Grace thinks that I need to be educated a certain way and by certain publications.

You read the sign in his emoji, but I'm not sure you read his words. He said this is getting too personal, and it was. It is true that everyone needs the Lord, so rather than say YOU need the Lord, it would be more accurate and less personal to say WE need the Lord.

 

[WIP]

The discussion had also deviated from the topic of trespassing to debating where one got his education and the validity of the same.