watchman F
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A better reading of that would say, The voice of the Father from Heaven, anointing His beloved Son (God in the flesh) while the Spirit of God (God, the spirit) descends upon him like a dove.Vic C. said:If we are to read God's word as it stands in the passage I quoted, you can't get Oneness out of the description given, which is; three distinct beings making up one Godhead in a way that is incomprehensible to our finite minds.Really? I think it gives a perfect picture of the Oneness of God. We would have to see with our human understanding to see three "persons" here. I rather see how each one of us is made in the image of God...body, soul, and spirit. We are rather lacking in comparison to God, but we're merely the creation, not the God of glory.
Mat 3:16 And (1)Jesus, when he was baptized, went up straightway out of the water: and, lo, the heavens were opened unto him, and he saw (2)the Spirit of God descending like a dove, and lighting upon him:
Mat 3:17 And lo (3)a voice from heaven, saying, This is my beloved Son, in whom I am well pleased.
That negates Oneness altogether, unless one is bold enough to reinvent math. ;) You would have to divide God into thirds. :o It also negates modalism too, which says that God is only manifested into one of His three "positions" one at a time.
[quote:39g42zxb]We hear the voice of God coming down from Heaven, annointing His own flesh with His Spirit of power...descending like a dove. Beautiful.
No matter how you slice it, you still come up with three separate yet distinct beings here. :yes
But I guess trying to systematically prove this doctrine to those who don't see it is beyond the capacity of our mortal and finite minds. It's not a theology that just pops out of the Bible. It has been systematically defended for hundreds of years from the OT up to the NT.
Also, there is no "human" understanding to a triune God, it is for the most part, a spiritual thing. [/quote:39g42zxb]I also see Oneness view in this passage not Trinity.