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We see what would come at the end...

Matthew 24:6-7
6 And ye shall hear of wars and rumours of wars: see that ye be not troubled: for all these things must come to pass, but the end is not yet.
7 For nation shall rise against nation, and kingdom against kingdom: and there shall be famines, and pestilences, and earthquakes, in divers places.

Mark 13:7-8
7 And when ye shall hear of wars and rumours of wars, be ye not troubled: for such things must needs be; but the end shall not be yet.
8 For nation shall rise against nation, and kingdom against kingdom: and there shall be earthquakes in divers places, and there shall be famines and troubles: these are the beginnings of sorrows.

And we see war... 'At least 26,083 people have killed and 64,000 injured by Israeli attacks in Gaza since the Hamas attack on Israel on October 7, the Hamas-run Gaza Ministry of Health said Friday.'... Live updates: Israel-Hamas war rages, hostages talks, Gaza crisis

And rumors of war... 'Why did Sweden tell its citizens to prepare for war?
At an annual security and defense conference in Sweden on Jan. 7, the country’s civil defense minister, Carl-Oskar Bohlin, told attendees, “There could be war in Sweden.”... Why is Sweden telling its citizens to prepare for war?
'Leaked German documents show leaders are preparing should Russia launch World War 3: reports Reports suggest Russian offensive will include troops on the ground and cyberattacks'... Leaked German documents show leaders are preparing should Russia launch World War 3: reports

And we have see pestilence, plague, and famine..'Despite the fact that we produce enough food to feed everyone on Earth, world hunger is on the rise...Malnutrition is less about food than about socioeconomic factors such as conflict, poverty, and global disasters such as climate change and the novel Coronavirus Disease 2019 (COVID-19) pandemic.' Pestilence and famine: Continuing down the vicious cycle with COVID-19

To say nothing of the famine from war.. 'More than 500,000 people in Gaza face 'catastrophic hunger': UNRWA.. A Hamas official called on the WHO to declare the Gaza Strip a "famine zone."'... More than 500,000 people in Gaza face 'catastrophic hunger': UNRWA
'War pushes Sudan towards 'catastrophic' famine-like conditions..Some 30 million people, almost two thirds of the population, are in need of assistance in Sudan according to the UN, double the number before fighting broke out..'...https://www.reuters.com/world/africa/war-pushes-sudan-towards-catastrophic-famine-like-conditions-2023-12-14/

And the fires and floods.. 'Record-breaking wildfires have occurred all over the Northern Hemisphere during 2023, new report finds'... Record-breaking wildfires have occurred all over the Northern Hemisphere during 2023, new report finds
'Europe's year of droughts, wildfires and health alerts'.. https://www.reuters.com/world/europe/europe-sees-another-year-droughts-wildfires-2023-08-09/
'Data acquired by Newsweek showed a dramatic shift in the number of wildfires and acres burned when compared to last year.'... How bad are the 2023 wildfires? Chart shows dramatic shift from last year

And floods.. 'Ten countries and territories saw severe flooding in just 12 days. Is this the future of climate change?'... https://www.cnn.com/2023/09/16/world/global-rain-flooding-climate-crisis-intl-hnk/index.html
'Severe natural disasters triggered by climate change marked a calamitous year with thousands tragically killed around the globe.
Considered among the most destructive natural disasters humanity faces, flood catastrophes claimed thousands of lives in 2023. '... Global crisis unleashed: 2023's devastating floods
'Eight catastrophic floods in 11 days: What’s behind intense rainfall around the world?
Scientists say climate change is most likely having an impact on rainfall and flooding, but understanding precisely what that relationship is can be tricky.'...https://www.nbcnews.com/science/science-news/eight-catastrophic-floods-11-days-s-intense-rainfall-world-rcna104620

So looks like we are getting the full spectrum of the four winds coming on..
Revelation 7:1
And after these things I saw four angels standing on the four corners of the earth, holding the four winds of the earth, that the wind should not blow on the earth, nor on the sea, nor on any tree.
 
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Add in the The New 2020 American Civil War
Trump as leader of his army vs The Government, (both parties as Trump says I will destroy all Washington DC including the Republican Party) But obviously his main enemy are the Democrats,
Wars on University campuses, where free civil, speech is denied at risk of being flaged and thus not graduating.
Corp offices, only say what will keep your job.
Churches, walk the robotic line or leave.
Anarchy is breaking out over every square inch of this planet.
Trump as antichrist really was huge sign of what was beginning.
Anarchy everywhere,, and as the bible says its only going to grow more intense.
People killing people for no reason, a few confess and say **we just felt like it**
Others confess,,**I was out hunting***
Kids waking up to the fact their parents just might be their enemy
The future humanity will consist of 2 main groups, The New Nihilists and The New Paganists.
Its already in motion now.
I see this clearly in the 20 something Gen.
The atheists are going to catch hell at that time. Both groups are going to bother the hell out of the 3rd minor group the atheists.
The tiny group that seek God whether of religious cults or actual Sons of God will be persecuted, harrassed, bothered all the time.
This is why no one speaks to anyone honestly now, no one trusts anyone.
Exactly waht Yeshua told us would happen in this epoch.
Propaganda, lies everywhere, Worst of all is in the churches, both jewish and protestant. Leading astray some who God has called out of, yet have been hoodwinked, Fed snakeoil
Yes your local protestant churches are antichrist = against Yeshua and His Holy Kingdom
 
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We see what would come at the end...

Matthew 24:6-7
6 And ye shall hear of wars and rumours of wars: see that ye be not troubled: for all these things must come to pass, but the end is not yet.
7 For nation shall rise against nation, and kingdom against kingdom: and there shall be famines, and pestilences, and earthquakes, in divers places.

Mark 13:7-8
7 And when ye shall hear of wars and rumours of wars, be ye not troubled: for such things must needs be; but the end shall not be yet.
8 For nation shall rise against nation, and kingdom against kingdom: and there shall be earthquakes in divers places, and there shall be famines and troubles: these are the beginnings of sorrows.

And we see war... 'At least 26,083 people have killed and 64,000 injured by Israeli attacks in Gaza since the Hamas attack on Israel on October 7, the Hamas-run Gaza Ministry of Health said Friday.'... Live updates: Israel-Hamas war rages, hostages talks, Gaza crisis

And rumors of war... 'Why did Sweden tell its citizens to prepare for war?
At an annual security and defense conference in Sweden on Jan. 7, the country’s civil defense minister, Carl-Oskar Bohlin, told attendees, “There could be war in Sweden.”... Why is Sweden telling its citizens to prepare for war?
'Leaked German documents show leaders are preparing should Russia launch World War 3: reports Reports suggest Russian offensive will include troops on the ground and cyberattacks'... Leaked German documents show leaders are preparing should Russia launch World War 3: reports

And we have see pestilence, plague, and famine..'Despite the fact that we produce enough food to feed everyone on Earth, world hunger is on the rise...Malnutrition is less about food than about socioeconomic factors such as conflict, poverty, and global disasters such as climate change and the novel Coronavirus Disease 2019 (COVID-19) pandemic.' Pestilence and famine: Continuing down the vicious cycle with COVID-19

To say nothing of the famine from war.. 'More than 500,000 people in Gaza face 'catastrophic hunger': UNRWA.. A Hamas official called on the WHO to declare the Gaza Strip a "famine zone."'... More than 500,000 people in Gaza face 'catastrophic hunger': UNRWA
'War pushes Sudan towards 'catastrophic' famine-like conditions..Some 30 million people, almost two thirds of the population, are in need of assistance in Sudan according to the UN, double the number before fighting broke out..'...https://www.reuters.com/world/africa/war-pushes-sudan-towards-catastrophic-famine-like-conditions-2023-12-14/

And the fires and floods.. 'Record-breaking wildfires have occurred all over the Northern Hemisphere during 2023, new report finds'... Record-breaking wildfires have occurred all over the Northern Hemisphere during 2023, new report finds
'Europe's year of droughts, wildfires and health alerts'.. https://www.reuters.com/world/europe/europe-sees-another-year-droughts-wildfires-2023-08-09/
'Data acquired by Newsweek showed a dramatic shift in the number of wildfires and acres burned when compared to last year.'... How bad are the 2023 wildfires? Chart shows dramatic shift from last year

And floods.. 'Ten countries and territories saw severe flooding in just 12 days. Is this the future of climate change?'... https://www.cnn.com/2023/09/16/world/global-rain-flooding-climate-crisis-intl-hnk/index.html
'Severe natural disasters triggered by climate change marked a calamitous year with thousands tragically killed around the globe.
Considered among the most destructive natural disasters humanity faces, flood catastrophes claimed thousands of lives in 2023. '... Global crisis unleashed: 2023's devastating floods
'Eight catastrophic floods in 11 days: What’s behind intense rainfall around the world?
Scientists say climate change is most likely having an impact on rainfall and flooding, but understanding precisely what that relationship is can be tricky.'...https://www.nbcnews.com/science/science-news/eight-catastrophic-floods-11-days-s-intense-rainfall-world-rcna104620

So looks like we are getting the full spectrum of the four winds coming on..
Revelation 7:1
And after these things I saw four angels standing on the four corners of the earth, holding the four winds of the earth, that the wind should not blow on the earth, nor on the sea, nor on any tree.
Rev 7:1 And after these things I saw four angels standing on the four corners of the earth, holding the four winds of the earth, that the wind should not blow on the earth, nor on the sea, nor on any tree.
Rev 7:2 And I saw another angel ascending from the east, having the seal of the living God: and he cried with a loud voice to the four angels, to whom it was given to hurt the earth and the sea,
Rev 7:3 Saying, Hurt not the earth, neither the sea, nor the trees, till we have sealed the servants of our God in their foreheads.
Rev 7:4 And I heard the number of them which were sealed: and there were sealed an hundred and forty and four thousand of all the tribes of the children of Israel.

Rev 7:1-8 is about the 144,000 from all the tribes of Israel that will return back to Israel and accept Jesus as their Lord and Savior as they will then be sealed with the Holy Spirit of promise, Ephesians 1:13.

John is given another vision after these things, meaning after the first six seals that are revealed to him. He now sees four angels standing on the four corners of the earth holding the four winds of the earth in order that the wind should not blow on the earth, nor on the sea, nor on any tree until Gods servants were sealed.

These servants are the generational 144,000 from the twelve tribes of Israel, except for the tribe of Dan and Ephraim as they fell to idol worship and allowed God to be removed from them, Judges 18:30; 1 Kings12:25-33; Hosea 5:9, 11;Psalms 78:9-17, 65-67. To keep it twelve tribes since Dan and Ephraim are not mentioned in vs. 4-8 the tribe of Joseph appears twice, once under his own name and once under the name of his son Issachar/Manasseh. Judah is mentioned first as Messiah was to come from the lineage of David.


Concerning Matthew 24:4-8

Mat 24:4 And Jesus answered and said unto them, Take heed that no man deceive you.
Mat 24:5 For many shall come in my name, saying, I am Christ; and shall deceive many.
Mat 24:6 And ye shall hear of wars and rumours of wars: see that ye be not troubled: for all these things must come to pass, but the end is not yet.
Mat 24:7 For nation shall rise against nation, and kingdom against kingdom: and there shall be famines, and pestilences, and earthquakes, in divers places.
Mat 24:8 All these are the beginning of sorrows.

These are the beginning of sorrows and will increase even more grievous during the time of the first trumpet that will sound after the seventh seal is broken by Jesus up to the seventh trumpet as God pours His wrath out into the world. Rev 6-11. For then shall be great tribulation, such as was not since the beginning of the world to this time, no, nor ever shall be, Matthew 24:21.

It is up to all of us that are sealed by the Holy Spirit unto the day of redemption to be that witness of Christ and testifying of His mercy and grace during the worst and last tribulation that has ever been.
 
Add in the The New 2020 American Civil War
Trump as leader of his army vs The Government, (both parties as Trump says I will destroy all Washington DC including the Republican Party) But obviously his main enemy are the Democrats,
Wars on University campuses, where free civil, speech is denied at risk of being flaged and thus not graduating.
Corp offices, only say what will keep your job.
Churches, walk the robotic line or leave.
Anarchy is breaking out over every square inch of this planet.
Trump as antichrist really was huge sign of what was beginning.
Anarchy everywhere,, and as the bible says its only going to grow more intense.
People killing people for no reason, a few confess and say **we just felt like it**
Others confess,,**I was out hunting***
Kids waking up to the fact their parents just might be their enemy
The future humanity will consist of 2 main groups, The New Nihilists and The New Paganists.
Its already in motion now.
I see this clearly in the 20 something Gen.
The atheists are going to catch hell at that time. Both groups are going to bother the hell out of the 3rd minor group the atheists.
The tiny group that seek God whether of religious cults or actual Sons of God will be persecuted, harrassed, bothered all the time.
This is why no one speaks to anyone honestly now, no one trusts anyone.
Exactly waht Yeshua told us would happen in this epoch.
Propaganda, lies everywhere, Worst of all is in the churches, both jewish and protestant. Leading astray some who God has called out of, yet have been hoodwinked, Fed snakeoil
Yes your local protestant churches are antichrist = against Yeshua and His Holy Kingdom
Well we shall see what happens with the election...
 
Add in the The New 2020 American Civil War
Trump as leader of his army vs The Government, (both parties as Trump says I will destroy all Washington DC including the Republican Party) But obviously his main enemy are the Democrats,
Wars on University campuses, where free civil, speech is denied at risk of being flaged and thus not graduating.
Corp offices, only say what will keep your job.
Churches, walk the robotic line or leave.
Anarchy is breaking out over every square inch of this planet.
Trump as antichrist really was huge sign of what was beginning.
Anarchy everywhere,, and as the bible says its only going to grow more intense.
People killing people for no reason, a few confess and say **we just felt like it**
Others confess,,**I was out hunting***
Kids waking up to the fact their parents just might be their enemy
The future humanity will consist of 2 main groups, The New Nihilists and The New Paganists.
Its already in motion now.
I see this clearly in the 20 something Gen.
The atheists are going to catch hell at that time. Both groups are going to bother the hell out of the 3rd minor group the atheists.
The tiny group that seek God whether of religious cults or actual Sons of God will be persecuted, harrassed, bothered all the time.
This is why no one speaks to anyone honestly now, no one trusts anyone.
Exactly waht Yeshua told us would happen in this epoch.
Propaganda, lies everywhere, Worst of all is in the churches, both jewish and protestant. Leading astray some who God has called out of, yet have been hoodwinked, Fed snakeoil
Yes your local protestant churches are antichrist = against Yeshua and His Holy Kingdom
I have a feeling Trump may be taken out of the picture....
 
We see what would come at the end...

Matthew 24:6-7
6 And ye shall hear of wars and rumours of wars: see that ye be not troubled: for all these things must come to pass, but the end is not yet.
7 For nation shall rise against nation, and kingdom against kingdom: and there shall be famines, and pestilences, and earthquakes, in divers places.

Mark 13:7-8
7 And when ye shall hear of wars and rumours of wars, be ye not troubled: for such things must needs be; but the end shall not be yet.
8 For nation shall rise against nation, and kingdom against kingdom: and there shall be earthquakes in divers places, and there shall be famines and troubles: these are the beginnings of sorrows.

And we see war... 'At least 26,083 people have killed and 64,000 injured by Israeli attacks in Gaza since the Hamas attack on Israel on October 7, the Hamas-run Gaza Ministry of Health said Friday.'... Live updates: Israel-Hamas war rages, hostages talks, Gaza crisis

And rumors of war... 'Why did Sweden tell its citizens to prepare for war?
At an annual security and defense conference in Sweden on Jan. 7, the country’s civil defense minister, Carl-Oskar Bohlin, told attendees, “There could be war in Sweden.”... Why is Sweden telling its citizens to prepare for war?
'Leaked German documents show leaders are preparing should Russia launch World War 3: reports Reports suggest Russian offensive will include troops on the ground and cyberattacks'... Leaked German documents show leaders are preparing should Russia launch World War 3: reports

And we have see pestilence, plague, and famine..'Despite the fact that we produce enough food to feed everyone on Earth, world hunger is on the rise...Malnutrition is less about food than about socioeconomic factors such as conflict, poverty, and global disasters such as climate change and the novel Coronavirus Disease 2019 (COVID-19) pandemic.' Pestilence and famine: Continuing down the vicious cycle with COVID-19

To say nothing of the famine from war.. 'More than 500,000 people in Gaza face 'catastrophic hunger': UNRWA.. A Hamas official called on the WHO to declare the Gaza Strip a "famine zone."'... More than 500,000 people in Gaza face 'catastrophic hunger': UNRWA
'War pushes Sudan towards 'catastrophic' famine-like conditions..Some 30 million people, almost two thirds of the population, are in need of assistance in Sudan according to the UN, double the number before fighting broke out..'...https://www.reuters.com/world/africa/war-pushes-sudan-towards-catastrophic-famine-like-conditions-2023-12-14/

And the fires and floods.. 'Record-breaking wildfires have occurred all over the Northern Hemisphere during 2023, new report finds'... Record-breaking wildfires have occurred all over the Northern Hemisphere during 2023, new report finds
'Europe's year of droughts, wildfires and health alerts'.. https://www.reuters.com/world/europe/europe-sees-another-year-droughts-wildfires-2023-08-09/
'Data acquired by Newsweek showed a dramatic shift in the number of wildfires and acres burned when compared to last year.'... How bad are the 2023 wildfires? Chart shows dramatic shift from last year

And floods.. 'Ten countries and territories saw severe flooding in just 12 days. Is this the future of climate change?'... https://www.cnn.com/2023/09/16/world/global-rain-flooding-climate-crisis-intl-hnk/index.html
'Severe natural disasters triggered by climate change marked a calamitous year with thousands tragically killed around the globe.
Considered among the most destructive natural disasters humanity faces, flood catastrophes claimed thousands of lives in 2023. '... Global crisis unleashed: 2023's devastating floods
'Eight catastrophic floods in 11 days: What’s behind intense rainfall around the world?
Scientists say climate change is most likely having an impact on rainfall and flooding, but understanding precisely what that relationship is can be tricky.'...https://www.nbcnews.com/science/science-news/eight-catastrophic-floods-11-days-s-intense-rainfall-world-rcna104620

So looks like we are getting the full spectrum of the four winds coming on..
Revelation 7:1
And after these things I saw four angels standing on the four corners of the earth, holding the four winds of the earth, that the wind should not blow on the earth, nor on the sea, nor on any tree.
I think it's a nice way of saying being sealed with the Holy Spirit,

neither death, nor life, nor angels, nor principalities, nor powers, nor things present, nor things to come, Nor height, nor depth, nor any other creature, shall be able to separate us from the love of God, which is in Christ Jesus our Lord. Rom.8:38-39 KJV
 
I think it's a nice way of saying being sealed with the Holy Spirit,

neither death, nor life, nor angels, nor principalities, nor powers, nor things present, nor things to come, Nor height, nor depth, nor any other creature, shall be able to separate us from the love of God, which is in Christ Jesus our Lord. Rom.8:38-39 KJV
But if we choose to separate ourselves from Him and stay with sin, He will not override your freewill choice..
 
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But if we choose to separate ourselves from Him and stay with sin, He will not override your freewill choice..
No He won't but God sends judgement to correct His wayward children and that includes all sinners.
God expects us to grow out of our soiled diapers into holiness. Judgement only becomes a matter of condemnation for continually rejecting the holiness of God.
Throughout scripture, Christ has been persecuted through those who believed in Him.
 
Do you see what I'm saying reddogs? Like this,

Yea, for thy sake are we killed all the day long; we are counted as sheep for the slaughter. Psa.44:22, Rom.8:36 KJV

Believers are counted as sacrifices because Christ dwells in us,

If the world hate you, ye know that it hated me before it hated you. Jn.15:18 KJV

This is why Paul said,

My aim is to know him, to experience the power of his resurrection, to share in his sufferings, and to be like him in his death, Phil.3:10 NET

He wanted to know the love of God. To the ooint of loving his enemies as Jesus did.
 
No He won't but God sends judgement to correct His wayward children and that includes all sinners.
God expects us to grow out of our soiled diapers into holiness. Judgement only becomes a matter of condemnation for continually rejecting the holiness of God.
Throughout scripture, Christ has been persecuted through those who believed in Him.
So do you think Judas will get this 'benefit'...
 
So do you think Judas will get this 'benefit'...
The only human being I have a right to judge is myself and I better get that right. But this is the problem reddogs. Point the law at everyone else... except me. ( I'm not saying you. I'm saying that's what I used to do.)
The law was to convict and if necessary condemn the guilty...which I am. So I better use the law to remind myself that I'm no better than Judas.
I can only repent because He lives and forgave me.
 
The only human being I have a right to judge is myself and I better get that right. But this is the problem reddogs. Point the law at everyone else... except me. ( I'm not saying you. I'm saying that's what I used to do.)
The law was to convict and if necessary condemn the guilty...which I am. So I better use the law to remind myself that I'm no better than Judas.
I can only repent because He lives and forgave me.
The thing is that God's justice is that the wicked will perish, and only if you repent and turn your life fully to Christ will that sentence be pardoned, and one be saved..
 
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The thing is that God's justice is that the wicked will perish, and only if you repent and turn your life fully to Christ will that sentence be pardoned, and one be saved..
I'm agree with you on this 100%. Your statement above makes it impossible for Jesus to a penal "substitution for sinners."
Any sacrifice for sin under the law had to be confessed and forsaken, or it would not be forgiven.
 
So do you think Judas will get this 'benefit'...
Those who are the elect, who are forgiven , who the Eternal Judge does not hold their sins against them,
are infinitely better than Judas.
Even a living dog is better than a dead lion !

The false gospel(s) that seek to oppose God's Righteous Judgment and somehow make Judas the betrayer alive again
are causing immeasurable damage and destruction to millions or even billions of souls potentially.
 
Those who are the elect, who are forgiven , who the Eternal Judge does not hold their sins against them,
are infinitely better than Judas.
Even a living dog is better than a dead lion !

The false gospel(s) that seek to oppose God's Righteous Judgment and somehow make Judas the betrayer alive again
are causing immeasurable damage and destruction to millions or even billions of souls potentially.
But you have to remember, God decides who is the elect, not man, as we have many who claim they follow Christ, yet continue fully in sin and iniquity..