[__ Science __ ] Theistic Evolution Is Not the Real Problem!

dwb001 said:
Time is the same every where in the universe.
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That was tested on the Apollo missions. The crew took extremely accurate timepieces with them. Turns out, the speed of the vehicle was sufficient to slow time by a measurable amount. Einstein was correct. It's not the same everywhere.
 
dwb001 said:
Size of the ball would be gravity not length of a year.
You are talking about orbit size while I am talking about time.
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How do you figure a moment on Mars is no longer or shorter than earth?

If you went out in space your whole concept of time would go out the window.
 
BeyondET said:
It's perspective, what is the purpose of time?
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Time stops everything from happening at the same moment.
And you are talking about perspective and I am talking about time. Two different things.
 
dwb001 said:
Time stops everything from happening at the same moment.
And you are talking about perspective and I am talking about time. Two different things.
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When moment stops there's no time measurement.
 
dwb001 said:
Time stops everything from happening at the same moment.
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you have to explain that in a bit more detail.

something happens and that time starts at that moment and continues to stop start and continue because of the something in the beginning of universe time.
 
BeyondET said:
you have to explain that in a bit more detail.

something happens and that time starts at that moment and continues to stop start and continue because of the something in the beginning of universe time.
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You have to explain your statement. That makes no sense.
Without time everything would happen at once. Basic Terry Pratchett theory.
 
dwb001 said:
Oh... well that makes no sense either.
Why would time be dependant on movement?
If I stop moving... does time stop?
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If everything in the universe stopped then yes. You standing still doesn't stop the earth from spinning. In the beginning of the universe literally means the start of time. The time you spend living is different from everybody else's you know. If there was no time everyone wouldn't be born simultaneously, that's made up garbage.

The debate over time is getting farther away from the thread.
 
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BeyondET said:
If everything in the universe stopped then yes. You standing still doesn't stop the earth from spinning. In the beginning of the universe literally means the start of time. The time you spend living is different from everybody else's you know. If there was no time everyone wouldn't be born simultaneously, that's made up garbage.

The debate over time is getting farther away from the thread.
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You are incorrect about the nature of time.
You are addressing the experience of time not time itself.
 
dwb001 said:
Without time everything would happen at once.
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How do you know that it doesn't?

  • Time is an especially hot topic right now in physics. The search for a unified theory is forcing physicists to reexamine very basic assumptions, and few things are more basic than time.
  • Some physicists argue that there is no such thing as time. Others think time ought to be promoted rather than demoted. In between these two positions is the fascinating idea that time exists but is not fundamental. A static world somehow gives rise to the time we perceive.
  • Philosophers have debated such ideas since before the time of Socrates, but physicists are now making them concrete. According to one, time may arise from the way that the universe is partitioned; what we perceive as time reflects the relations among its pieces.
www.scientificamerican.com

Is Time an Illusion?

The concepts of time and change may emerge from a universe that, at root, is utterly static
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The concept of time is simply an illusion made up of human memories, everything that has ever been and ever will be is happening right now. That is the theory according to a group of esteemed scientists who aim to solve one of the universe’s mysteries.
www.express.co.uk

Time is NOT real: Physicists show everything happens at the same time

TIME is not real - it is a human construct to help us differentiate between now and our perception of the past, an equally astonishing and baffling theory states.
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In the 1970s, the famous US physicist John Archibald Wheeler along with the physicist Bryce Dewitt, working on the unification of quantum mechanics and Einstein’s theory of gravitation, developed an equation in which time as a separate concept had no role.

The theory was a big step towards the elimination of time from the description of the universe. This concept, although seemed weird and led to many controversial debates among physicists, was later developed to its extreme limit by the physicist Julian Barbour. According to him, the time is not real and what we regard as the time is no more than changes that lead to the illusion of time.

This notion of time is in total contradiction with the Newtonian concept of time as a linear and homogenous passage of a river and that of Einstein as the 4th dimension. According to Barbour, what our mind records are moments that he calls “Nows” and what we perceive as the passage of time is just our move through a succession of “Nows”.

While these may be interpreted by our conscious as the passage of time from the past to the future, they may be interpreted the reverse for another observer in another reference point.

The concept is already quite weird, but Barbour has presented answers to many seemingly unresolved mysteries of his theory. In his theory, events like birth and death are not regarded as a proof for the passage of time; they are rather cycles of energy that our conscious mind perceives as if we are watching a linear passage of time.
www.learning-mind.com

The Illusion of Time: Physics Reveals Time Is Not Real - Learning Mind

According to certain theories in physics, the time is not real and what we regard as the time is no more than changes that lead to the illusion of time.
www.learning-mind.com www.learning-mind.com
 
The universe turns out to be a very weird and counterintuitive place. Quantum entanglement now shows that space is also an illusion. Recently, physicists report macro object are subject to quantum entanglement; specifically bacteria. Einstein's "spooky action at a distance" is a fact.
 
dwb001 said:
Nope... the seventh day was 24hrs just like the previous 6.
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How were the first few "days" measured where the earth was not yet turning not revolving around the sun? They were placed in position on "day" 4. Our 24 hours is measured by the rotation of the earth as it orbits in relation to the sun. If these were not there in the first 3 days, how can a day be even measured?

"Day" means more than just 24 hours even in our language. Older folk say "in my day" and do not mean the one single 24 hour period in which they lived. We also say "in the days of Mr. XYZ" and we do not mean a certain number of 24 hour periods.
 
dwb001 said:
But a moment on Mars is no longer or shorter than a moment on Earth.
You are talking about orbital size not time.
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Mars time is slower than Earth Time. An earth day is 24 hours, Mars days are 39 earth hours long
 
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