Three Days and Three Nights

[archangel_300]

West Texas could you elaborate more on how you arrive at this verse pointing to your conclusion?
I don't see how this proves Wednesday crucifixion?

I only see one type of Sabbath being discussed in this verse.

Archangel, if you read this verse in Young's Sabbaths is PLURAL. I believe the first Sabbath would be the Passover Sabbath. Then when scripture says at the first of the sabbaths, this would be the first of 7 weekly sabbaths for the Feast of Weeks which began after the wave offering. I gave my interpretation in the post above this one. (it's long and drawn out ) anyway, as I said I believe in a literal 72 hrs and believe scripture substantiates this view.
God bless ya my friend, Westtexas

Correct... but I still only see one type of Sabbath being discussed in this verse which is the weekly sabbath? In context this verse is referring to the time that Mary visted the tomb.

"And on the eve of the sabbaths, at the dawn, toward the first of the sabbaths, came Mary Magdalene, and the other Mary, to see the sepulchre"

eve of what sabbath? The word "eve" means prior... The eve of the sabbath as dawn risen toward to first of these sabbaths. That's how I see it.
I don't see how you arrive to the conclusion "eve of the sabbaths" to mean the time period prior to the Passover Sabbath and then there is a second Sabbath which is the weekly sabbath?

Please clarify my confusion...

 

[westtexas]

But how about you tell me how Jesus could be three days and three nights in the tomb without raising on the 4th day. Twenty verses say, "in three days", or within three days, and only one says, "three days and three nights".

Why don't you even consider the other places in scripture where three days and three nights obviously mean it wasn't a 72 hour period? Why ignore the perfect example Jesus, himself, gave?



Don't donkey down on me, brother. Come, let us reason together.

The perfect example Jesus himself gave was in Matthew 12:40 where He said "three days and three nights". I believe the scripture I gave shows our Lord did what He said. I also believe He could have risen at the exact micro-second that was necessary to be "three days and three nights". I'm not sure where you're 4th day comes from. But I'll give you you're chance, Where is you're scripture that says three days and three nights does not mean 72 hrs?
Westtexas--P.S. are you from Texas? Where did you come up with a saying like "don't donkey down"?

 

[westtexas]

Tex,
The reason I asked earlier why you called the Passover a Sabbath is because Passover isn't a Sabbath, although some may call it that

Passover is a non-High Day because the Passover itself is referred to as a preparation day for the Feast. ]

Lev.23:3-5//3)Six days shall work be done: but the seventh day is the sabbath of rest, A HOLY CONVOCATION;ye shall do no work therein: it is the sabbath of the Lord in all your dwellings.4)These are the feasts of the Lord, EVEN HOLY CONVOCATIONS,which YE SHALL proclaim in their seasons. 5) In the fourteenth day of the first month at even is the Lord's passover (KJV)

The same words are used for the 7 feasts as are for the weekly sabbaths. God calls it a Holy Convocation, not a non-high day.
Westtexas

 

[glorydaz]

Tex,
The reason I asked earlier why you called the Passover a Sabbath is because Passover isn't a Sabbath, although some may call it that

Passover is a non-High Day because the Passover itself is referred to as a preparation day for the Feast. ]

Lev.23:3-5//3)Six days shall work be done: but the seventh day is the sabbath of rest, A HOLY CONVOCATION;ye shall do no work therein: it is the sabbath of the Lord in all your dwellings.4)These are the feasts of the Lord, EVEN HOLY CONVOCATIONS,which YE SHALL proclaim in their seasons. 5) In the fourteenth day of the first month at even is the Lord's passover (KJV)

The same words are used for the 7 feasts as are for the weekly sabbaths. God calls it a Holy Convocation, not a non-high day.
Westtexas

But there is only one sabbath that is a commandment. :yes

One is written on the stone tablets. Only one is referred to as a commandment.
Such a one as happened after Christ's crucifixion.

 

[archangel_300]

But how about you tell me how Jesus could be three days and three nights in the tomb without raising on the 4th day. Twenty verses say, "in three days", or within three days, and only one says, "three days and three nights".

Why don't you even consider the other places in scripture where three days and three nights obviously mean it wasn't a 72 hour period? Why ignore the perfect example Jesus, himself, gave?



Don't donkey down on me, brother. Come, let us reason together.

The perfect example Jesus himself gave was in Matthew 12:40 where He said "three days and three nights". I believe the scripture I gave shows our Lord did what He said. I also believe He could have risen at the exact micro-second that was necessary to be "three days and three nights". I'm not sure where you're 4th day comes from. But I'll give you you're chance, Where is you're scripture that says three days and three nights does not mean 72 hrs?

Westtexas--P.S. are you from Texas? Where did you come up with a saying like "don't donkey down"?

Mark 16:9 Now when He rose early on the first day of the week, He appeared first to Mary Magdalene, out of whom He had cast seven demons.

 

[glorydaz]

But how about you tell me how Jesus could be three days and three nights in the tomb without raising on the 4th day. Twenty verses say, "in three days", or within three days, and only one says, "three days and three nights".

Why don't you even consider the other places in scripture where three days and three nights obviously mean it wasn't a 72 hour period? Why ignore the perfect example Jesus, himself, gave?

Don't donkey down on me, brother. Come, let us reason together.

The perfect example Jesus himself gave was in Matthew 12:40 where He said "three days and three nights". I believe the scripture I gave shows our Lord did what He said. I also believe He could have risen at the exact micro-second that was necessary to be "three days and three nights". I'm not sure where you're 4th day comes from. But I'll give you you're chance, Where is you're scripture that says three days and three nights does not mean 72 hrs?
Westtexas--P.S. are you from Texas? Where did you come up with a saying like "don't donkey down"?

Whoa, cowboy. Something isn't adding up to any 72 hours.

For those who say Jesus was crucified on Wed....
Nope won't work...too many nights, too many days, and too many hours.
Wednesday...Wed night, Thursday, Thursday night, Friday, Friday night, Sat., Sat. night, Sunday.
Wed. night to Thursday night = 24
Thursday night to Friday night = 24
Friday night to Sat. night = 24
Sat. night to Sunday = 12

If you say Jesus was crucified on Thurday...right number of days and nights, true.
Thursday Thursday night, Fri., Friday night, Sat., Sat. night, Sunday
Thursday night to Friday night = 24
Friday night to Sat. night = 24
Sat. night to Sun am. = 12

In order to be raised the third day, you can't get 72 hours.
So, you may as well throw out your 72 hour theory right from the get.

So let's just pretend that our Lord was crucified on Thursday, even though it was only 60 hours.
It couldn't have been on Wednesday or Christ wouldn't have been raised on the third day...too many scriptures say it was on the 3rd day. Correct?

You still have to contend with this...You have a total of three days to work with. Christ died at sundown and arose at dawn. There's a half a day plus or minus somewhere.

Nisan 14 – Passover lamb killed (Ex 12:6) DEATH

Nisan 15 – First day of Unleavened Bread BURIAL

Nisan 16 – First Fruits (RESURRECTION)...The second day of Passover, the Hebrews offered a sheaf of barley as the firstfruits of the harvest for that year. On that same day began the reckoning (Sefirot) of the seven weeks.

And this...

And he said unto them, Go ye, and tell that fox, Behold, I cast out devils, and I do cures to day and to morrow, and the third day I shall be perfected.

And the LORD said unto Moses, Go unto the people, and sanctify them to day and to morrow, and let them wash their clothes, And be ready against the third day: for the third day the LORD will come down in the sight of all the people upon mount Sinai.

PS...We donkey down here in Oregon, too, :biglaugh and I'll get to those other verses in my next post. I just had to show you about the 72 hours first. ;)

 

[watchman F]

LOL After reading that mixed-up bit of accounting, I can safely say, I am taking Jesus' Word for it. I just happen to know what He was saying. :biglaugh

I dont think you take Jesus word for anything. Talk about mixed up. That perfectly describes your theology.

 

[Mysteryman]

But how about you tell me how Jesus could be three days and three nights in the tomb without raising on the 4th day. Twenty verses say, "in three days", or within three days, and only one says, "three days and three nights".

Why don't you even consider the other places in scripture where three days and three nights obviously mean it wasn't a 72 hour period? Why ignore the perfect example Jesus, himself, gave?

Don't donkey down on me, brother. Come, let us reason together.

The perfect example Jesus himself gave was in Matthew 12:40 where He said "three days and three nights". I believe the scripture I gave shows our Lord did what He said. I also believe He could have risen at the exact micro-second that was necessary to be "three days and three nights". I'm not sure where you're 4th day comes from. But I'll give you you're chance, Where is you're scripture that says three days and three nights does not mean 72 hrs?
Westtexas--P.S. are you from Texas? Where did you come up with a saying like "don't donkey down"?

Whoa, cowboy. Something isn't adding up to any 72 hours.

For those who say Jesus was crucified on Wed....
Nope won't work...too many nights, too many days, and too many hours.
Wednesday...Wed night, Thursday, Thursday night, Friday, Friday night, Sat., Sat. night, Sunday.
Wed. night to Thursday night = 24
Thursday night to Friday night = 24
Friday night to Sat. night = 24
Sat. night to Sunday = 12

If you say Jesus was crucified on Thurday...right number of days and nights, true.
Thursday Thursday night, Fri., Friday night, Sat., Sat. night, Sunday
Thursday night to Friday night = 24
Friday night to Sat. night = 24
Sat. night to Sun am. = 12

In order to be raised the third day, you can't get 72 hours.
So, you may as well throw out your 72 hour theory right from the get.

So let's just pretend that our Lord was crucified on Thursday, even though it was only 60 hours.
It couldn't have been on Wednesday or Christ wouldn't have been raised on the third day...too many scriptures say it was on the 3rd day. Correct?

You still have to contend with this...You have a total of three days to work with. Christ died at sundown and arose at dawn. There's a half a day plus or minus somewhere.

Nisan 14 – Passover lamb killed (Ex 12:6) DEATH

Nisan 15 – First day of Unleavened Bread BURIAL

Nisan 16 – First Fruits (RESURRECTION)...The second day of Passover, the Hebrews offered a sheaf of barley as the firstfruits of the harvest for that year. On that same day began the reckoning (Sefirot) of the seven weeks.

And this...
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And he said unto them, Go ye, and tell that fox, Behold, I cast out devils, and I do cures to day and to morrow, and the third day I shall be perfected.

And the LORD said unto Moses, Go unto the people, and sanctify them to day and to morrow, and let them wash their clothes, And be ready against the third day: for the third day the LORD will come down in the sight of all the people upon mount Sinai.

PS...We donkey down here in Oregon, too, :biglaugh and I'll get to those other verses in my next post. I just had to show you about the 72 hours first. ;)[/quote:deqsxhgq]

Hi glorydaz

I think you need to take a reading class, and a math class. It is obvious that you failed both while in school. Or maybe, just maybe you have been listening to your elders again. And maybe, just maybe they failed reading class and math class. And maybe , just maybe, your elders need an ordained man of God to help shepherd the sheep. Which ever is the case. The word of God is talking about 72 hour period of time. An actual three days and three nights !

He died on Wed. -- was put into the tomb just before total sunset Wed. and he rose three nights and three days later. Which would be just before total sunset Sat. , which is the last day of the week. He was already risen before total sunset, even though it was just before total sunset. Thus he rose on the Holy Sabbath day, the seventh day, the day of rest.

 

[ProphetMark]

I make it 1 verse suggesting Jesus rose on Sunday morning (Mark 16 v 9), and 0 verses suggesting Saturday sunset.
The closest the bible gets to saying Saturday night is John 20 v 1 when it mentions it was still dark.
Is there any biblical evidence for a Thursday morning crucifixion?

 

[archangel_300]

I make it 1 verse suggesting Jesus rose on Sunday morning (Mark 16 v 9), and 0 verses suggesting Saturday sunset.
The closest the bible gets to saying Saturday night is John 20 v 1 when it mentions it was still dark.
Is there any biblical evidence for a Thursday morning crucifixion?

Same problem applies... if Thursday was the crucifixion date then it means that Saturday morning would be the time Mary visited the tomb.

 

[glorydaz]

Hi glorydaz

I think you need to take a reading class, and a math class. It is obvious that you failed both while in school. Or maybe, just maybe you have been listening to your elders again. And maybe, just maybe they failed reading class and math class. And maybe , just maybe, your elders need an ordained man of God to help shepherd the sheep. Which ever is the case. The word of God is talking about 72 hour period of time. An actual three days and three nights !

He died on Wed. -- was put into the tomb just before total sunset Wed. and he rose three nights and three days later. Which would be just before total sunset Sat. , which is the last day of the week. He was already risen before total sunset, even though it was just before total sunset. Thus he rose on the Holy Sabbath day, the seventh day, the day of rest.

If you can't behave like an adult, why do you even bother to speak?

I will say once again. Your immaturity and your lack of fruit is showing. :yes

 

[Mysteryman]

Hi glorydaz

I think you need to take a reading class, and a math class. It is obvious that you failed both while in school. Or maybe, just maybe you have been listening to your elders again. And maybe, just maybe they failed reading class and math class. And maybe , just maybe, your elders need an ordained man of God to help shepherd the sheep. Which ever is the case. The word of God is talking about 72 hour period of time. An actual three days and three nights !

He died on Wed. -- was put into the tomb just before total sunset Wed. and he rose three nights and three days later. Which would be just before total sunset Sat. , which is the last day of the week. He was already risen before total sunset, even though it was just before total sunset. Thus he rose on the Holy Sabbath day, the seventh day, the day of rest.

If you can't behave like an adult, why do you even bother to speak?

I will say once again. Your immaturity and your lack of fruit is showing. :yes

By this reply, I take it that your ears are closed. With such a childish reply such as this, no wonder people have a hard time discussing things with you.

 

[Rick W]

I'm going to lock this thread for a while. Maybe a cooling off period is in order.