Top 10 most evil people of all time

[theLords]

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[theLords]

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[handy]

It is very difficult to present a case for anyone to kill anyone else. Very rarely have I ever thought killing justified but once in a while I think it may be. I have no idea if your image of 'Che' as a ruthless killer has any substance at all as that is not part of any history that I have read and I could not quickly find any substantiation for your claim. What I will say though is that the Batista regime was bad, bad, bad. Here is a brief extract which you can find in any history:
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When the guerrillas took control of territory they redistributed the land amongst the peasants. In return, the peasants helped the guerrillas against Batista's soldiers. In some cases the peasants also joined Castro's army, as did students from the cities and occasionally Catholic priests.

In an effort to find out information about the rebels people were pulled in for questioning. Many innocent people were tortured. Suspects, including children, were publicly executed and then left hanging in the streets for several days as a warning to others who were considering joining the revolutionaries. The behaviour of Batista's forces increased support for the guerrillas. In 1958 forty-five organizations signed an open letter supporting the July 26 Movement. National bodies representing lawyers, architects, dentists, accountants and social workers were amongst those who signed. Castro, who had originally relied on the support of the poor, was now gaining the backing of the influential middle classes​

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Was 'Che' and others justified in executing the Batista officials who tortured innocent people and left men, women and children hanging in the street? Possibly not but I think I understand it. War is an unimaginably awful place to be and it always involves questionable executions in the field. 'Che' was just a soldier at that stage and without a shadow of a doubt he was a popular liberator which is why he is fondly remembered by many. The questionable growth of communism later, and his part in it is a different matter but his motives in fighting oppression can only be admired.

[If you have any evidence of him acting in an 'evil' way, I would really appreciate the document references. It may just be anti Cuban propaganda and there is plenty of that around.]

Nevalti, I honestly haven't been ignoring your request for documented references, a reasonable request. There is a lot of propaganda (on both sides of the aisle) to wade through.

Basically, I was just old enough when Guevara was killed to remember the discussions of my parents as they read through the newspaper accounts and listened to news of it. I recall the (then fresh) recounts of his bloody executions...and not just of Batista officials. (It impacted me enough I actually had a nightmare about it.) I think most who were around back then...at least those who were in tune with current events and who wasn't in '67...remember the headlines and reports.

However, my memories are about a reliable as the blogosphere as far as documentation is concerned. I'm trying to research some of the newspapers of the times. NY Times and the Tribune certainly should have some archived information...but, trying to track down source material like this is time consuming and Thanksgiving is this week...as well as the fact that I have to feed critters in the snow now. I'll continue to hunt and if I can come up with some solid source material, I'll share.

Fair enough?

I have no idea if your image of 'Che' as a ruthless killer has any substance at all as that is not part of any history that I have read and I could not quickly find any substantiation for your claim. What I will say though is that the Batista regime was bad, bad, bad.

I find it interesting that you can find history of the evil Baptista regime and yet nothing of note concerning Guevara's actions? Really? I realize that Guevara's history is being whitewashed...I've waded through ample websites to see that...but come on, there is a plethora of writers out there, people who have studied Guevara and do have source material that have shared ... are all of them just anti-Guevara propagandists in your mind?