Top 10 most evil people of all time

[handy]

Checking in on the thread...and realized that I totally misread Drummer's post...yep, I thought he was talking about Mohammed Ali...the greatest...

...I go away and hide me head in shame now.....

 

[jasoncran]

huxley. the college liberal kids favorite, che gueverra, whom would kill that same kid in seconds.

eric racism existed long before darwin. whom do you think killed the jews? it wasnt just hitler it was all done in hate from one race to another.

nothing new.

 

[EricTheBaptist]

huxley. the college liberal kids favorite, che gueverra, whom would kill that same kid in seconds.

eric racism existed long before darwin. whom do you think killed the jews? it wasnt just hitler it was all done in hate from one race to another.

nothing new.

True, but one of the biggest genocides in history could of been prevented.

 

[MarbleShooter]

huxley. the college liberal kids favorite,

I know quite a few college age kids who also enjoy Orwell, Nietzsche, Lewis, Rand, and Marx. All of these people had some interesting things to say and still do have some great inspiration. I do think Huxley got a lot right though. Why pay attention to the news when we have Iphones, PS3s, My Little Pony, Scifi conventions, the News season of House, Farmville, etc? Oh don't forget to buy that new car and get acne creme, otherwise the ladies won't want to be with ya. ;)

 

[jasoncran]

True, but one of the biggest genocides in history could of been prevented.

no, actually stalin killed more men and women and jews then hitler ever imagined.

he killed not just 6 million but 30 million in his purges

mao se tung killed 60 million in his purges.

stalin and mao just got away with it. had not japan hit us first we wouldnt have entered the war.

 

[EricTheBaptist]

no, actually stalin killed more men and women and jews then hitler ever imagined.

he killed not just 6 million but 30 million in his purges

mao se tung killed 60 million in his purges.

stalin and mao just got away with it. had not japan hit us first we wouldnt have entered the war.

Exactly, Stalin's belief was on Darwin's theory of Evolution. Mao also based his beliefs on Evolution.

 

[jasoncran]

I know quite a few college age kids who also enjoy Orwell, Nietzsche, Lewis, Rand, and Marx. All of these people had some interesting things to say and still do have some great inspiration. I do think Huxley got a lot right though. Why pay attention to the news when we have Iphones, PS3s, My Little Pony, Scifi conventions, the News season of House, Farmville, etc? Oh don't forget to buy that new car and get acne creme, otherwise the ladies won't want to be with ya. ;)

and so by hitler we got movies, the space program and also jets and also nuclear power as he reasearch that first and also neutral steer that skid steers have. i can praise him all day too.

he had the most efficient goverment yah now. them jews were just a nurisance in his way to genius

signed man who lost family in the holocaust.

and when you start that diesel up and it has the bosch mechanical pump.

i am not making the mistake of poisoning the well but if one wants to praise evil men for their good i will oblidge.

done a thread on that called HITLER WAS GOOD FOR GERMANY.

funny how that offended a che lover. made him sick but he had to think about what he like and what they supported and he himself.

i can also praise the ussr and what they did well too.

 

[jasoncran]

Exactly, Stalin's belief was on Darwin's theory of Evolution. Mao also based his beliefs on Evolution.

no, neither were

i can also go back to the the american puritans who did some evil.

shall i bring in the spanish catholic explorers who enslaved the indians and killed for gold?

or the brittish whom wiped out the delaware tribe with blankets of small pox. all done before the idea of the toe.

 

[MarbleShooter]

Exactly, Stalin's belief was on Darwin's theory of Evolution. Mao also based his beliefs on Evolution.

No, neither of those dictators based their rule on the theory of evolution. Both where power hungry and killed anyone in their way. Stallin took control of the USSR and went after anygroup that spoke against him. Same with Mao. I have a question Ericthebaptist, dose Einstein deserve to be put on the list because of him and Curry Nuclear weapons where now made possible? If you disagree with Darwin, I don't mind, but this unfounded hatred and blaming by association is absurd. Heck, Hitler in Miencomf names his reason for killing non arians because he thought he was doing the work of his "god". Not Christianity but the God he believed in in his book. He thought he had a divine right to exterminate the non arians. Can we agree that we as individuals are responsible for our own actions, and it is the fault of others that take our views and use them for their own selfish gains?

 

[MarbleShooter]

and so by hitler we got movies, the space program and also jets and also nuclear power as he reasearch that first and also neutral steer that skid steers have. i can praise him all day too.

he had the most efficient goverment yah now. them jews were just a nurisance in his way to genius

signed man who lost family in the holocaust.

and when you start that diesel up and it has the bosch mechanical pump.

i am not making the mistake of poisoning the well but if one wants to praise evil men for their good i will oblidge.

done a thread on that called HITLER WAS GOOD FOR GERMANY.

funny how that offended a che lover. made him sick but he had to think about what he like and what they supported and he himself.

i can also praise the ussr and what they did well too.

.....I really don't know what you were trying to say. That people are capable of good and evil? If so I agree. Hitler did do horrible things, he was removed from power by his own suicide, we took his good ideas and have ran away from the evils that he did. That seems to be life.

 

[jasoncran]

......I really don't know what you were trying to say. That people are capable of good and evil? If so I agree. Hitler did do horrible things, he was removed from power by his own suicide, we took his good ideas and have ran away from the evils that he did. That seems to be life.[/QUOTE]
but he was still evil. thats the point. you claimed not like my bashing of huxley and so forth.

so i then pointed out that hitler wasnt so bad.

he remains were taken by the russians and they had his body for years.

http://www.fpp.co.uk/Hitler/docs/death/HitlerSkull.html

still evil.

i will not call stalin,pol pot and che good or heroic. they are evil.

 

[MarbleShooter]

but he was still evil. thats the point. you claimed not like my bashing of huxley and so forth.

so i then pointed out that hitler wasnt so bad.

he remains were taken by the russians and they had his body for years.

http://www.fpp.co.uk/Hitler/docs/death/HitlerSkull.html

still evil.

i will not call stalin,pol pot and che good or heroic. they are evil.

You bashed Huxley? I didn't say anything about that, I just pointed out that a lot of college kids are required to read from the list I pointed out. I also didn't call anyone heroic or justify anyone's actions. I was only stating that Huxley made a good point, as did those other writers. I really have no idea why you brought Hitler into this other then hyperbole.

 

[jasoncran]

you arent aware a few years ago that che gueverra t-shirts were popular and some call him a hero. pard fall in and post:D

reading on them is one thing. shoot i would read mein kempf just too understand him and why some do that. i have done a role as nazi in ww2 reenactment. i learned alot.

that is what im addressing. i learned of the marxian diatribe and also one other socialist.

 

[MarbleShooter]

you arent aware a few years ago that che gueverra t-shirts were popular and some call him a hero. pard fall in and post:D

I'm aware people wore Che shirts and thought he was a hero. I always found it ironic that Che shirts where sold in stores like Hot Topic and the Gap. Freely owned private businesses. Seems like that was enough to satirize Che itself. I just found it odd you brought up Che and Hitler when I didn't.

reading on them is one thing. shoot i would read mein kempf just too understand him and why some do that. i have done a role as nazi in ww2 reenactment. i learned alot.

I agree. I've looked into both Rand and Marx. Both made sense, but fall apart because both are idealistic. Rand made good points that we are our own persons and that the want for gain is important and that we should never forget that we have to work for everything. Marx made a good point that we need to watch for corruption when it comes to people who have the money to control the legal system. Both where loons though. Rand preached that religion was like cancer and would sell out here own kids to make a buck. Marx didn't take into account human greed and laziness.

 

[EricTheBaptist]

No, neither of those dictators based their rule on the theory of evolution. Both where power hungry and killed anyone in their way. Stallin took control of the USSR and went after anygroup that spoke against him. Same with Mao. I have a question Ericthebaptist, dose Einstein deserve to be put on the list because of him and Curry Nuclear weapons where now made possible? If you disagree with Darwin, I don't mind, but this unfounded hatred and blaming by association is absurd. Heck, Hitler in Miencomf names his reason for killing non arians because he thought he was doing the work of his "god". Not Christianity but the God he believed in in his book. He thought he had a divine right to exterminate the non arians. Can we agree that we as individuals are responsible for our own actions, and it is the fault of others that take our views and use them for their own selfish gains?

No, Albert Einstein was not evil. The ideas of Nuclear Fission were around before that time, someone was going to discover it. He also saved the world from the Axis powers.

Also here's a rebuttal to your argument on Hitler and Stalin.

“At a very early age, while still a pupil in the ecclesiastical school, Comrade Stalin developed a critical mind and revolutionary sentiments. He began to read Darwin and became an atheist.â€

G. Gludjidze, a boyhood friend of Stalin’s relates: “I began to speak of God. Joseph heard me out, and after a moment’s silence said: ‘You know, they are fooling us, there is no God....’â€

Gludjidze reported: “I was astonished at these words. I had never heard anything like it before. How can you say such things, Soso?†he asked Stalin, who replied:

“I will lend you a book to read: it will show you that the world and all living things are quite different from what you imagine, and all this talk about God is sheer nonsense.â€

“What book is that?†his friend inquired.

“Darwin. You must read it,’ Joseph impressed on me.â€

A few pages later, another person who was in school with Stalin, said of what they were taught:

“...in order to disabuse [i.e., free from deception or error] the minds of our seminary students of the myth that the world was created in six days, we had to acquaint ourselves with the geological origin and age of the earth, and be able to prove them in argument; we had to familiarize ourselves with Darwin’s teachings.†- http://www.fixedearth.com/hlsm.html

Hitler based his ideas on "Natural Selection" and "Survival of the Fittest" he claims that he was going to make the supreme race known as the Aryans, and he'd do so by "Natural Selection" of those inferior to his supreme race. Darwin was also Hitlers FAVORITE PERSON. I read from Hitler's book Mein Kampf "The stronger must dominate and not mate with the weaker." Darwinism right there "If such a law did not direct the process of Evolution then the higher development of organic life would not be conceivable at all. The demand that it should be made impossible for defective people to continue to propagate defective offspring is a demand that is based on most reasonable grounds.

 

[MarbleShooter]

No, Albert Einstein was not evil. The ideas of Nuclear Fission were around before that time, someone was going to discover it. He also saved the world from the Axis powers.

So Darwin is evil and Einstien is a hero for what happened in world war 2, even though neither had an direct say in either? This looks more like an excuse to blame someone and give praise to people who didn't do anything. You are removing personal responsibility off of people. Stalin did what he did because he wanted control. What he did had nothing to do with evolution. Hitler did what he did because he thought he had a divine command to do so. What you are stating is nothing but hate mongering. That is it. You can't blame Darwin for something so you are using proxy. I'm not gullible and falling for it.

Also here's a rebuttal to your argument on Hitler and Stalin.

“At a very early age, while still a pupil in the ecclesiastical school, Comrade Stalin developed a critical mind and revolutionary sentiments. He began to read Darwin and became an atheist.â€

G. Gludjidze, a boyhood friend of Stalin’s relates: “I began to speak of God. Joseph heard me out, and after a moment’s silence said: ‘You know, they are fooling us, there is no God....’â€

Gludjidze reported: “I was astonished at these words. I had never heard anything like it before. How can you say such things, Soso?†he asked Stalin, who replied:

“I will lend you a book to read: it will show you that the world and all living things are quite different from what you imagine, and all this talk about God is sheer nonsense.â€

“What book is that?†his friend inquired.

“Darwin. You must read it,’ Joseph impressed on me.â€

A few pages later, another person who was in school with Stalin, said of what they were taught:

“...in order to disabuse [i.e., free from deception or error] the minds of our seminary students of the myth that the world was created in six days, we had to acquaint ourselves with the geological origin and age of the earth, and be able to prove them in argument; we had to familiarize ourselves with Darwin’s teachings.†- http://www.fixedearth.com/hlsm.html

All this dose is show Stalin was an atheist. Where in Stalin's plan did he actually apply evolution? No where. Communism actually goes against the ideas of natural selection. This is nothing but proxy. The only link here is that Stalin stopped believing in Christianity because he read the origin of species. Have you read it? To be honest, its pro creator. The last paragraph of the book mentions one. This is exactly like blaming the author of the Catcher in the Rye for the attack on Ragen. Its not the author, but nutty person doing it.

Hitler based his ideas on "Natural Selection" and "Survival of the Fittest" he claims that he was going to make the supreme race known as the Aryans, and he'd do so by "Natural Selection" of those inferior to his supreme race.

No, Hitler based his ideas off of Eugenics, which is way older then the Origin of Species.

Darwin was also Hitlers FAVORITE PERSON. I read from Hitler's book Mein Kampf "The stronger must dominate and not mate with the weaker." Darwinism right there "If such a law did not direct the process of Evolution then the higher development of organic life would not be conceivable at all. The demand that it should be made impossible for defective people to continue to propagate defective offspring is a demand that is based on most reasonable grounds.

Did you read the rest of the book?! He then goes on to bash Darwin because Darwin didn't favor a master race and when he was in power he banned the Origin of Species. Why? It didn't fit with literal Bible interpretation. If you want to argue what in Origin of Species and Mein Kampf, do us a favor and read them first. Why? Then when I point out elementary facts like Hitler actually despising Darwin and how the Origin of Species mentions a creator, you aren't caught off guard.

 

[EricTheBaptist]

So Darwin is evil and Einstien is a hero for what happened in world war 2, even though neither had an direct say in either? This looks more like an excuse to blame someone and give praise to people who didn't do anything. You are removing personal responsibility off of people. Stalin did what he did because he wanted control. What he did had nothing to do with evolution. Hitler did what he did because he thought he had a divine command to do so. What you are stating is nothing but hate mongering. That is it. You can't blame Darwin for something so you are using proxy. I'm not gullible and falling for it. All this dose is show Stalin was an atheist. Where in Stalin's plan did he actually apply evolution? No where. Communism actually goes against the ideas of natural selection. This is nothing but proxy. The only link here is that Stalin stopped believing in Christianity because he read the origin of species. Have you read it? To be honest, its pro creator. The last paragraph of the book mentions one. This is exactly like blaming the author of the Catcher in the Rye for the attack on Ragen. Its not the author, but nutty person doing it. No, Hitler based his ideas off of Eugenics, which is way older then the Origin of Species.
Did you read the rest of the book?! He then goes on to bash Darwin because Darwin didn't favor a master race and when he was in power he banned the Origin of Species. Why? It didn't fit with literal Bible interpretation. If you want to argue what in Origin of Species and Mein Kampf, do us a favor and read them first. Why? Then when I point out elementary facts like Hitler actually despising Darwin and how the Origin of Species mentions a creator, you aren't caught off guard.

http://creation.com/the-darwinian-foundation-of-communism for the last time Stalin based his items on Evolutionism. :eeeekkk
Hitler actually, didn't ban Origin of Species you assert that he did this because of literal Bible interpretation well Hitler hated the Bible too.

 

[Lewis]

Muhammad Ali- Didn't want to spark a religious flame but I'd say he belongs here.]

I don't agree with that one at all.

 

[MarbleShooter]

http://creation.com/the-darwinian-foundation-of-communism

No, read Mein Kampf, Read the Origin of Species, Read The Communist Manifesto. Why? So you can see how that site is lying or being dishonest.

for the last time Stalin based his items on Evolutionism.

No! There is no such ism. Nothing Stalin Did was based off the theory of Evolution or Darwin's book The Origin of Species. If you had read it you would see this. Tell me what Stalin did that is mentioned in the Origin of Species. It sure wasn't communism, it sure wasn't the arms race, Starving and killing his own people. Nope, he did it because he was a dictator who loved power and control. Guess what the Origin of Species is about? Organisms adapt to their environment and it was breathed into being by its creator. Wait a minute those don't sound the same at all.

Hitler actually, didn't ban Origin of Species

Wrong, look under the D section. Whose name is that? Charles Darwin! You know, the author of the Origin of species? http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_authors_banned_during_the_Third_Reich

you assert that he did this because of literal Bible interpretation well Hitler hated the Bible too.

Read Mien Kampf! Hitler thought he was doing the work of God. The Matto of Nazi Germany was God with US. Hitler even remained allies with the Vatican. I'm not saying what Hitler did was Christian. No, what I'm saying is that you need to stop blaming Darwin for what a Nutcase in Germany did. It was not his fault and what you are doing is really petty.

 

[EricTheBaptist]

I don't agree with that one at all.

Not the boxer.