Bible Study Was Jesus a Prophet?

[ezra]

So which one is right?

depends on who you ask .the atonement is right

 

[GodsGrace]

depends on who you ask .the atonement is right

Which one?

 

[ezra]

I HAVE NO IDEA WHAT YOUR TALKING ABOUT

 

[WIP]

IOW,, If someone THINKS they're saved....they will not seek salvation.

Perhaps this is what Paul meant when he penned, "Therefore, my beloved, as you have always obeyed, not as in my presence only, but now much more in my absence, work out your own salvation with fear and trembling; for it is God who works in you both to will and to do for His good pleasure."

 

[GodsGrace]

Perhaps this is what Paul meant when he penned, "Therefore, my beloved, as you have always obeyed, not as in my presence only, but now much more in my absence, work out your own salvation with fear and trembling; for it is God who works in you both to will and to do for His good pleasure."

I'm not sure.
The above verse is Philippians 2:12

Paul is telling them to be obedient to God even while he is away...
in the same way as they were when he was present with them.

What I'm saying is that if something THINKS they're saved because they walked down an isle in a church and then do nothing further to belong to the Kingdom of God...are they saved?

I don't think so...but they THINK they are because of these modern teachings that say we "accept" Jesus and are saved.

I do believe that in order to be saved our life should reflect it as much as possible and we should be disciples of Jesus and desire to follow His way...even though we will fail at times, but at least the desire is there.

Do you still think it's the same idea?

 

[GodsGrace]

I HAVE NO IDEA WHAT YOUR TALKING ABOUT

I posted a link Ezra.
You MUST know there's more than one theory of Atonement!

Here's the link again...but there's plenty of information....

http://www.sdmorrison.org/7-theories-of-the-atonement-summarized/

 

[WIP]

I'm not sure.
The above verse is Philippians 2:12

Paul is telling them to be obedient to God even while he is away...
in the same way as they were when he was present with them.

What I'm saying is that if something THINKS they're saved because they walked down an isle in a church and then do nothing further to belong to the Kingdom of God...are they saved?

I don't think so...but they THINK they are because of these modern teachings that say we "accept" Jesus and are saved.

I do believe that in order to be saved our life should reflect it as much as possible and we should be disciples of Jesus and desire to follow His way...even though we will fail at times, but at least the desire is there.

Do you still think it's the same idea?

My thought is that what you describe is "working out our salvation with fear and trembling." I think the important part is "working out our salvation" is not the same as "working for our salvation." To work out our salvation is to live according to the gift of grace we have received.

 

[GodsGrace]

My thought is that what you describe is "working out our salvation with fear and trembling." I think the important part is "working out our salvation" is not the same as "working for our salvation." To work out our salvation is to live according to the gift of grace we have received.

Oh.
I agree!

 

[ezra]

I posted a link Ezra.
You MUST know there's more than one theory of Atonement!

Here's the link again...but there's plenty of information....

http://www.sdmorrison.org/7-theories-of-the-atonement-summarized/

how about this he paid a debt he did not owe /he took my place he redeemed my by his blood
1 Peter 1

18 Forasmuch as ye know that ye were not redeemed with corruptible things, as silver and gold, from your vain conversation received by tradition from your fathers;

19 But with the precious blood of Christ, as of a lamb without blemish and without spot:
beyond that i dont care if there is 20 theories .Jesus paid the price

 

[ezra]

To work out our salvation is to live according to the gift of grace we have received.

that is exactly what it means