We Are In Trouble

[His_nee (Jeff)]

yep 'skeeters!' http://hottytoddy.com/2014/05/13/5-powerful-observations-from-the-panama-canal/
http://www.ralphmag.org/panama.html >>>

"4) Sometimes we need to come to a stop so that we can move better later!
5What brought the French effort down was the devastation of the malaria and yellow fever. It was so bad that 3 of every 4 that got in the hospital did not make it out. For many, the last thing they saw before dying was their casket moved in the room to the foot of their bed. A big mistake they made came from trying to do something right. Ants were a problem, so they put the bedposts in buckets of water. That led to insects breeding right in the hospital.

Hospitals treated patients with high doses of whiskey, eggnog, or by rubbing kerosene and oil on them and giving them mustard baths. Basically, they didn’t have a clue.

Dr. William Gorgas figured out it was insects and pitched an extremely expensive and time consuming way to clean the place up. While many scoffed, Roosevelt and Stevens listened. Stevens shut down everything for over a year to sanitize the place like no place had ever been cleaned up. The building could wait. They drained swamps. They screened and fumigated buildings, even invading churches to clean out the fonts of holy water.

Millions were spent and within a couple of years they had wiped out yellow fever and malaria." (without drugs -- same with other diseases over the last 2 centuries, btw. )

 

[jasonc]

yep 'skeeters!' http://hottytoddy.com/2014/05/13/5-powerful-observations-from-the-panama-canal/
http://www.ralphmag.org/panama.html >>>

"4) Sometimes we need to come to a stop so that we can move better later!
5What brought the French effort down was the devastation of the malaria and yellow fever. It was so bad that 3 of every 4 that got in the hospital did not make it out. For many, the last thing they saw before dying was their casket moved in the room to the foot of their bed. A big mistake they made came from trying to do something right. Ants were a problem, so they put the bedposts in buckets of water. That led to insects breeding right in the hospital.

Hospitals treated patients with high doses of whiskey, eggnog, or by rubbing kerosene and oil on them and giving them mustard baths. Basically, they didn’t have a clue.

Dr. William Gorgas figured out it was insects and pitched an extremely expensive and time consuming way to clean the place up. While many scoffed, Roosevelt and Stevens listened. Stevens shut down everything for over a year to sanitize the place like no place had ever been cleaned up. The building could wait. They drained swamps. They screened and fumigated buildings, even invading churches to clean out the fonts of holy water.

Millions were spent and within a couple of years they had wiped out yellow fever and malaria." (without drugs -- same with other diseases over the last 2 centuries, btw. )

oh please. ddt was later used. but they used this and I think its still used.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pyrethrum

I know that as I read that. what is the cure for malaria in Afghanistan then?

drain what little water they have? oh wait the kunar and the kabol river and helmund river and the oxus. those areas are going to have the large amounts of skeeters. drain the lagoon in florida? right sure. what about the swamps of florida? that world for them but it cant be a cure all. that is the point.

 

[His_nee (Jeff)]

read how the engineer did it. for one thing. for another, stop dis-believing the truth.
the drug lords would love you to keep ignoring the truth, and to never come to a full knowledge of the truth.... that is their business and profit $$$$$$$$.(dRuGs) (hardly ever good ones, and they never tell you the simple inexpensive way to do things)

I know because I went to their school ---
I used to work for them and with them. I learned that from them. (UNintentionally, btw ---- I won't have anything to do with them now, by God's Grace and Mercy and Forgiveness in Yeshua HaMashiach).

 

[His_nee (Jeff)]

p.s. astonishlingly, dr.house(famous dr on tv curing the strange ones no one else can figure out) ,
plainly emphasized that giving a person malaria will cure them of cancer. that has been known for over 100 years, btw,
but in tulsa they charge $$$10,000 at the tall cncr center for 1/2 hour to do the same thing.

 

[jasonc]

read how the engineer did it. for one thing. for another, stop dis-believing the truth.
the drug lords would love you to keep ignoring the truth, and to never come to a full knowledge of the truth.... that is their business and profit $$$$$$$$.(dRuGs) (hardly ever good ones, and they never tell you the simple inexpensive way to do things)

I know because I went to their school ---
I used to work for them and with them. I learned that from them. (UNintentionally, btw ---- I won't have anything to do with them now, by God's Grace and Mercy and Forgiveness in Yeshua HaMashiach).

I know how the engineering did. what part of florida is a swamp. I love looking at old topos. most of the areas we lived in had to be drained to get the fill in to build in the first place. we have had malaria problems and yellow fever in florida. its gone now but there are others diseases and we treat the waterways the same way. are you seriously going to suggest that we do train all of the marshes here and kill off the land. mosquitos like water. what lakes we have are from rain water, and also for fishing. canals are here for irrigiation , go to the newest post of the science forum. read how the vero man was found. it was in the process of digging a canal. that canal still exists. it hasn't been changed at all. I use it to find my town and buildings from black and white topos. we crop dust marshes.

florida has a problem with dengue. st. Louis enchapilitis, and another type of enchaplitis all which are moquitoe borne. its not even that high with the deaths but it does happen.

 

[jasonc]

p.s. astonishlingly, dr.house(famous dr on tv curing the strange ones no one else can figure out) ,
plainly emphasized that giving a person malaria will cure them of cancer. that has been known for over 100 years, btw,
but in tulsa they charge $$$10,000 at the tall cncr center for 1/2 hour to do the same thing.

so how then does he cure the malaria? that is a blood/liver pathogen. once there its always there. it cant be killed off just contained. qunine locks it either or. it stops it but the person cant donate blood for life.

 

[His_nee (Jeff)]

the answer is still God's Way, "cleanliness" --- the same way the death of new born babies was almost eliminated - even though the doctor who did it 'officially' first was castigated and made fun of for years before being accepted.
the same way most diseases were eliminated in the places where they were eliminated. "cleanliness"
no matter what rivers etc are around .....
in india , there was a town 'plagued' with malaria as long as memory could remember. 'they' cured the malaria entirely by draining the swamps around and "cleanliness" =====
immediately, within a year, people started getting and dying from cancer.
malaria they got every year before, but no one died of it (practically).
but the high body temperature that kills cancer cells no longer eliminated the cancer cells after the malaria was wiped out.
.....
there is thousands of years of history and natural disease prevention and cures , from God, from God's people, from the chinese, from the gypsies, from the 7 to 12 'persecuted' peoples (used to be published every few years)>> people who lived to over 100 years old routinely, and never had cancer or diabetes or migraines,
and lived in glacial mountainous areas necessarily - having been chased out of their own homes and lands by other power mongers/ enemies / etc ....
......
in the Bible, Revelation chapter 18 or 19, usually translated 'witchcraft' or 'sorcery' but better just left as "phrmk" ,
it is written that in the end days "phrmk" will deceive the whole world, and so they have.

 

[jasonc]

wow. so its from not taking bathes? really I get bit my mosquitoes. after a good rain. the swells near my home drain but that takes days. pumping that out isn't possible. that is the primary source. next theres mandated drainage for rain that is used to store rain water. its treated by the mosquito control with fumigatants. I have seen them in action just last week. they were out by one of the routes I read.

 

[jasonc]

the world in context is pharmacia. that was used in the context of sorcery. those used drugs with chants. modern pharmacy. sources on the cure?

if what you would say is true then why didn't mr. reed know that?

 

[jasonc]

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that lake I believe is treated. I don't know if its fished in or if there is fish

 

[His_nee (Jeff)]

who is mr. reed? and why would he know ? and the context may or may not have been sorcery. those who have worked in the industry and been taught* by them know that they never tell the truth. never. their goal is profit. to make money. that's it. and if they tell the truth, the people would throw them out instead of listening to them.

*or rather, who by grace have been taught the truth by God, exposing what is false in the industry.

 

[jasonc]

who is mr. reed? and why would he know ? and the context may or may not have been sorcery. those who have worked in the industry and been taught* by them know that they never tell the truth. never. their goal is profit. to make money. that's it. and if they tell the truth, the people would throw them out instead of listening to them.

*or rather, who by grace have been taught the truth by God, exposing what is false in the industry.

sir walter reed. the man who founded modern bacteriology.. walter reed hospital was known and brittian( reed wasn't American but a Briton) would have been aware of that as in the uk held india until 1947. and france and other nations to include America had crude forms of sewer grids. in 1919 my town had one. I work that now.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chicago_Sanitary_and_Ship_Canal

that was completed by 1900. it was crude and in the early stages but it was being made known. man didn't know of this until recently. the bible helped but post me from the torah where the three stage method of sewer treatment is?

 

[His_nee (Jeff)]

(is there a way to move a post to another thread/starter? to do or not to do, whatever )
we are in trouble, and have been in trouble for over 100 years...... !!!!!!!!!!

remember that "phrmk will deceive the whole world" Revelation 17,18,19
and 'sorcery' has not deceived too many that I know of anywhere(not that I can name publicly)
and that the father of pharmacy(paracelcus) confessed before he died that everything he learned he learned from a sorceress supposedly at least
and that bechamp proved (TESTABLY, everything could be reproduced by others and tested) about disease what
pasteur (the propagandist) denied and went totally against in order to make more profit $$$$$
and industry profiteers went along with pasteur either blindly or knowingly to take part in the profit $$$$
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[jasonc]

did john see a comglomerate of men or women taking meds and selling them? or was it in his day as I said?

the later. sorcery. the occult then used drugs to get themselves to able to see things. so by taking amoxicillin I do that? amoxicillin which is from mold. or other drugs from nature.

I disagree. like I Britons would have known about that. sir walter reed would have likely did

I stand corrected. he was knighted but an American.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Walter_Reed

 

[His_nee (Jeff)]

no worries, i was in the depths of the beast and God in His Choice and Mercy delivered me.

it took several years though, and was a slow and painful process. (and I read a hundred to a thousand times more than what is in the links above, which is just for starters for those who want to know the truth.)

He will deliver everyone who trusts in Him. (or give them grace to endure without sinning, as He did for Paul)

 

[jasonc]

paull died for the lord. he wasn't delivered. he died outside of rome. that wasn't a delivery. that was martyrdom.

lewis pastuer? yeah walter reed had to know about that and so do the other man whom said do that. both reed and his other man

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Carlos_Finlay

reed was in charge of that medical center because of the man who founded bacteriology. its in the links.

 

[Kathi]

I think I'd prefer the simpler days.

There are pros and cons to the simpler days many years ago.First of all many illnesses and diseases killed off alot of them.Now we have vaccines and medications that prolongs our lives.Call me spoiled but I like the conviences today of our ovens,refrigerators and cars.On the other hand our world wasn't nearly as evil as today.I have set aside a newspaper from 1969 when Kennedy died.I look at that and then look at CNN today and the change is amazing.

 

[agua.]

There are pros and cons to the simpler days many years ago.First of all many illnesses and diseases killed off alot of them.Now we have vaccines and medications that prolongs our lives.Call me spoiled but I like the conviences today of our ovens,refrigerators and cars.On the other hand our world wasn't nearly as evil as today.I have set aside a newspaper from 1969 when Kennedy died.I look at that and then look at CNN today and the change is amazing.

Yeah Kathi some modern things are good for sure I wonder if the New Earth will be super high tech. You're right about the evil in the world now and that is expected eh.

 

[jasonc]

I was trying to make that point. im not old by my relatives did live for over 90 years on average. my great aunt, 1904-2002. she was one of nine. my grandmother one of six, and my grandad as well. (these are the jewish side, my great aunt is irish.