Thanks Karl, this is an interesting study, giving me some good food for thought.
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Thanks Karl, this is an interesting study, giving me some good food for thought.
It is clear that John heard that the Anointed One was doing these miracles.No worries, ...but to see him stumble you have to believe he doubted that Jesus was the One, the Messiah, which is what he asked, do we look for another and the word he used is heteros and that means someone or something different (from you), so we can deduced from what he asked he doubted and also from how Jesus responded to the question by quoting from Isa 61:1 and 42:7, both Messianic Scriptures, He was affirming by His works He is the Messiah.
In verse 6 we see Jesus encouraging his cousin, He was sending a message back to him through his disciples, even though he was in prison to be happy, that is: extremely blessed, fortunate, well off, ...which is the point I was trying to make in comparing John's experience in prison with Paul's experience in prison, which comes down to us as,
Rejoice in the Lord alway: and again I say, Rejoice. Php 4:4
And again the in is the same Jesus used in encouraging John in vs 6, it signifies our state in Christ, Jesus wanted His cousin to live by his faith and not his experiences, our doubting comes from relying on experiences, our faith comes from hearing and hearing from the Word of God, that's why there are three commentaries on the just shall live by faith Hab 2:4, Romans explains our justification, Galatians explains how to live and Hebrews explains what faith is, so that we can know how to live a life pleasing to the Father, which allows us to rejoice no matter what the circumstances are, ...for me, I'm almost at the end of my walk with the Lord on this planet, if He tarries, so when I'm walking through the valley of the shadow of death I don't want to be doubting my salvation, I can look back over all of the times I have heard Father tell me to step out in faith and i obeyed, I will be rejoicing in my Lord because I have lived in a personal relationship with Him, I'm going home, that's what David meant when he said, "I shall fear know evil," ............and that's just one more good reason to make sure we believe our salvation is secure IN Him, when the time comes we don't want to be searching Scriptures to try and find the answer.
I hope that helps a little.
Which question?If you don't think he doubted, then what do you attribute his question too?
His ministry only lasted a couple of years, I don't you about you but in the beginning of my walk with the Lord I doubted Him, quite a lot in the first two years, and even after, ...John was human just like us, and yes he had a special ministry, be he still had his carnal nature to deal with.
Which question?
Thanks for the direct answer it is real nice to get them...
Because of the false christs running around then as now ... i believe John was just checking to make sure the guy there were talking about was the right one... a good part of my understanding to that is the response of Jesus ...
Mat_11:11 Verily I say unto you, Among them that are born of women there hath not risen a greater than John the Baptist: notwithstanding he that is least in the kingdom of heaven is greater than he.
Karl.. you are new at this ( this being this study) and your willingness and guidance is much appreciated ... Please dont let a difference of opinion keep you from carrying on.
Yes, as I said I turned to several different commentaries, Gill was one of four. And found there were several different ideas about why John sent the disciples to make inquiries. Thanks Chopper.Hi Reba. This is the question. And Deb, here is a statement of John Gill, one of your favorite expositors. (Compliments of e-Sword).
Yes, as I said I turned to several different commentaries, Gill was one of four. And found there were several different ideas about why John sent the disciples to make inquiries. Thanks Chopper.
lol, That could very well be true.You're welcome Deb. You know? I did wonder about the Disciples of John if they were really the ones who had the question, and kept asking John who got tired of their questions and John said, "why don't you just go and ask Him." What's your thinking on that possibility?
There is a Jewish saying that goes something like this...What strikes me as I read Matthew 11:1-19 is that John the Baptist was a humble man by any standards, yet He was declared by our Lord as the greatest man who ever lived. (Mt 11:11, NIV 2011).
But what really astonishes me, is that you and I even if we are the least in God's kingdom have been declared greater than John (Mt 11:11, NIV). We are here in a different order of reality.
What strikes me as I read Matthew 11:1-19 is that John the Baptist was a humble man by any standards, yet He was declared by our Lord as the greatest man who ever lived. (Mt 11:11, NIV 2011).
But what really astonishes me, is that you and I even if we are the least in God's kingdom have been declared greater than John (Mt 11:11, NIV). We are here in a different order of reality.